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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:01 PM Nov 2017

Wonder Woman (film) and feminism...my Thanksgiving dinner conversation!

It was a beaut and it lasted throughout the weekend. We watched it on our movie channel several times and had heated debates that examined everything from a feminist viewpoint. I think we lost focus at some point...or should I say we had numerous points of view about the film's political POV.

I was particularly moved by Euterpe's death scene even if the context of WWI was at times a bit confusing. IMO, the film is strongest in its first half but I think the film's the female director didn't "bring it home." Of course, you may not agree.

The males in attendance mostly liked the film (they are all feminists) and listened to the women around the table. We had input from my teenaged and young adult granddaughters who weren't especially excited about this female hero. But the older females were more acquainted with "male gaze" treatment in films and wondered about WW's female director and her failures.

It made for an interesting holiday with my family, I must say...

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Wonder Woman (film) and feminism...my Thanksgiving dinner conversation! (Original Post) CTyankee Nov 2017 OP
Ha! I watched it with family this weekend as well. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #1
TBH, I was distracted from watching the movie as closely as I usually watch films CTyankee Nov 2017 #4
I tend to agree NewJeffCT Nov 2017 #6
WWI romana Nov 2017 #8
I actually saw it for the fist time Saturday night underpants Nov 2017 #2
If you haven't watched THE SECRET HISTORY OF COMICS (AMC)... brooklynite Nov 2017 #3
my dtr in law has colleagues who have worked in the genre and field of comic strips CTyankee Nov 2017 #5
that movie would have been a hit at our house.... samnsara Nov 2017 #7
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
1. Ha! I watched it with family this weekend as well.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:38 PM
Nov 2017

Ha! I watched it with family and friends this weekend as well. Seven younger females (ranging from seven to thirteen) were telling the adults to "SSHHHHH!!!!" By the end of the film, each was trying to out "fierce (?) each other through leaps, jumps, acrobatics and wise words (as wise as you can get from a ten year old).

A couple of the Dads (friends of mind since high school, and two are Trump supporters) were looking for a reason, any reason to criticize the film, but between the unabated joy the movie gave their daughters, and the thoroughly amazed looks they themselves wore for the second half of the movie, I think they either gave up or just simply forget.

As a contrast to your opinion, I though the film's third act was much, much stronger than the other two acts (on the other hand, I had zero problems with Dawn of Justice as well... so I've lost lots of credibility among my geek friends).

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
4. TBH, I was distracted from watching the movie as closely as I usually watch films
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:48 PM
Nov 2017

I am interested in. The bustle around getting food on the table and all the requisite silverware and glassware was just a jumble in my mind.

The Amazon women's fighting scenes were mesmerizing and refreshing, IMO. I did not find evidence of the male character overshadowing WW. He was just bringing a message to her from his view of the war, as a volunteer spy. I saw them as fighting together against the aggression of the Germans.









NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
6. I tend to agree
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:02 PM
Nov 2017

Wonder Woman/Gal Gadot was the center of the movie and the clear star. She has a charismatic screen presence, IMHO, that goes beyond her looks.

Yes, Chris Pine had some good moments, but I thought he clearly took a back seat to her, as did the other guys in sidekick roles. And, after the Lynda Carter TV show being set in the WW2 era, as well as the first Chris Evans Captain America movie, it was a nice change of pace to move the movie to WWI.

Definitely the best DC movie since The Dark Knight.

romana

(765 posts)
8. WWI
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:01 PM
Nov 2017

I think they opted for WWI for a lot of reasons, but mainly so they could have that wonderful scene of Diana crossing No Man’s Land at the front. It reminded me of the Eowyn pulling her helmet off exclaiming “I am no man!” then slaying the nazgul king.

underpants

(182,861 posts)
2. I actually saw it for the fist time Saturday night
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:40 PM
Nov 2017

The element I found very interesting was that she wasn't fighting for or against either side, she was trying to defeat Ares. She was trying to just end the war.

I felt there were many strong feminist points to it as well.

brooklynite

(94,679 posts)
3. If you haven't watched THE SECRET HISTORY OF COMICS (AMC)...
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:48 PM
Nov 2017

...the origins of Wonder Woman and it's author are very.....colorful.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. my dtr in law has colleagues who have worked in the genre and field of comic strips
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:50 PM
Nov 2017

and they have their own thoughts about this film. That confused the whole issue of WW as a feminist icon for me.

samnsara

(17,625 posts)
7. that movie would have been a hit at our house....
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:28 PM
Nov 2017

..as all my guests were huge HRC supporters and HATE trump and really dislike that other old man. So we were all on the same page politically. It was wonderful to see these old stoner guys being so Hillary friendly. I love self actualized men! They are all feminists...and animal lovers.

They happen to be all my in-laws too.

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