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flamingdem

(39,316 posts)
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:36 AM Nov 2017

Tax plan changes over time chart - updated explanation


Update from comment below:

The chart is the change in taxes, in millions of dollars for each wage group. The group making $20-$30K would, in total, pay $8 billion more than what they pay now. Since the number of people in each wage band differs, this chart is almost useless. It could mean that they are predicting that wages would be going down massively, so the portion raised from each of the lower income groups goes up.

I think the only point that can be drawn from this chart is that it massively favors the wealthy, especially over time.


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Takket

(21,607 posts)
4. That is actually the total of that income range in millions
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:46 AM
Nov 2017

But regardless it is still a tax increase. This plan will destroy the economy in 2008 fashion if we are lucky and 1920s fashion if we are not.

flamingdem

(39,316 posts)
6. Yet even half way normal repubs are willing to pass this monstrosity
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:48 AM
Nov 2017

Just to have a win.

They're desperate and will take all of us down with them.. but of course many of them will be even richer so that's okay..

onenote

(42,737 posts)
12. You should fix your OP -- the chart doesn't show what you claim.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 01:01 AM
Nov 2017

It shows the rich get more from the tax bill, but it doesn't show that someone in the $20,000-$30,000 income range will pay $7,999.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
5. Im more worried about the currency crisis that will result much sooner than 2027.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:47 AM
Nov 2017

There will be one if this POS passes. I guarantee it.

flamingdem

(39,316 posts)
7. Can you elaborate? Very interesting if you mean the US dollar will drop
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:49 AM
Nov 2017

Just being a bit selfish here but then I can get more Euros for the dollar but of course that will do damage as well.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
8. Eventually the world will lose confidence in our Treasury paper as the deficits swell.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:54 AM
Nov 2017

The Federal Reserve will be forced to monetize most if not all of it, as the buyers dry up. Inflation will increase substantially, as the monetary base grows uncontrollably. Think Argentina.

When a fiat reserve currency begins to unravel, it takes many others down with it.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
9. Ummm, the chart is not what you think it is. At least if the labels are correct.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:54 AM
Nov 2017

The chart is the change in taxes, in millions of dollars for each wage group. The group making $20-$30K would, in total, pay $8 billion more than what they pay now. Since the number of people in each wage band differs, this chart is almost useless. It could mean that they are predicting that wages would be going down massively, so the portion raised from each of the lower income groups goes up.

I think the only point that can be drawn from this chart is that it massively favors the wealthy, especially over time.

flamingdem

(39,316 posts)
10. Thanks - can't say that it made much sense with such extremes but the GOP
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:58 AM
Nov 2017

is capable of madness so I suspected it was that simple.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
11. The numbers dont match.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 01:01 AM
Nov 2017

Someone in a 75k-100k range doesn’t even pay 21k in taxes due to the brackets and deductions. This is likely a chart of overall revenue change in taxes from each bracket.

flamingdem

(39,316 posts)
13. Thanks, the person who posted before you caught that
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 01:02 AM
Nov 2017

You can tell I'm not a wiz with taxes - I updated the information in the title and post

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