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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI suspect, when the history of this time is written, Hillary Clinton will be seen as . . . .
. . . . the woman who, indeed, broke the glass ceiling.
She won the popular vote for the presidency. Many people believe the office was stolen from her. Perhaps because of her, perhaps in spite of her, but certainly with her, women shook the planet on its very axis on January 21, 2017.
In the first elections to follow that event, women kicked ass.
The glass ceiling, I want to believe, now IS shattered.
The glass ceiling was more containing, more restricting, more limiting, than many of us realized. Women are now standing up and standing strong on ALL matters affecting not just women but all of us.
The majority has awakened.
In the shadow of Hillary's loss, women are now surging.
The glass ceiling, I contend, has been broken, but not in a way that was imagined. Hillary cracked it. Women surged through that crack to shatter it.
The majority is surging.
msongs
(67,453 posts)right wing obedient women as they brush the glass shards from their hair
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)it when I read that many women didn't vote because they didn't want to cancel out their husband's vote.
How incredibly ignorant is that? Like their husband's vote carries more weight than their own?
I hope those women got that silly idea out of their heads! I nearly plotzed when I read that yesterday. I had to suppress the gag reflex, and I'm not joking about that!
Can you imagine the men these women are married to? I feel sorry for them, and mad at the same time. The lives they must lead, having a man tell them they're worthless, and that their opinions don't matter. As a man I've never been in a fight in my life. I've always managed to avoid them, as they solve nothing (and because of my size, I might accidentally seriously injure or kill someone). But if I came up against one of those low-life slugs I'd feel compelled to rearrange their faces a bit.
Stuff like that pisses me off to no end!
Squinch
(51,021 posts)both sexes.
I would venture to say that most of the women who voted for him did not do so because of emotional or any other kind of abuse from their husbands.
A very strong predictor of who would vote for Trump was that the voter lived in a zip code in which they have little contact with people of color. This tells me a lot about those women. Many of them benefit strongly from the sexism that gives their husbands an unfair advantage in the economic arena. Many of them are those women who truly buy into the 50's mentality that a woman who marries a rich man is the "winner" of the competition with other women in their heads. This in itself is an "anti-woman" attitude, and it opens the door in their minds for other anti-women attitudes. And there are many women who are just stone racist and sexist, and they would be more likely to chose those zip codes, and Trump spoke directly to their wants.
I don't feel sorry for them.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)but it certainly is a sorry situation.
Squinch
(51,021 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)I was totally wrong ........... I hope you are not wrong
Squinch
(51,021 posts)We thought that after we turned that corner, we would see the finish line up in the future. We DID turn a corner, but there is a much longer road ahead of us than we thought then.
There was a world of racism and sexism and homophobia before Obama was elected, but there was also a lot of pretending that there wasn't. For a while, people didn't as openly talk about their hatred for the "other."
When Obama was elected, the light got turned on and we saw all the cockroaches scuttering around us. Then trump showed up and the racism, sexism and homophobia were in our faces all the time. His whole election was a backlash at the progress we have made.
Here are my silver linings that I try to look at: 1) you don't get backlash unless you've truly made progress, and boy are we getting backlash right now. And 2) ALL of the disgusting attitudes on the right are neon lit right now. No one can deny them or pretend they aren't there. They are SO ugly, so corrupt, so evil, that even those who "always voted Republican because my father did" are reconsidering.
So we go on and keep fighting, together. I hope in my lifetime we will be ascendant again. I think we will.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)MarvinGardens
(779 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)and rig the election in such a blatant way that it won't possibly be missed by future historians, even if pundits today are acting like it was no big deal.
In this day and age that may be the biggest success that we can ask of a Democratic candidate.
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)She deserves that place, but we got Trump. I use to think Bush was the worst.
Decades ago, a friend told me the phrase, it cant get worse than this was bullshit. That was in the 90s.
I cannot tell anymore what will happen.
Hekate
(90,834 posts)Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)Unless the Republican malfeasance in the 2016 election is really on the level of treason I doubt the 2016 election will figure that prominently other than as a case study of populism in the age of social media.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)There is a lot of irony as the normalization of sexual predation and long standing protection of them when they get caught is being revealed. The legacies of many feminist leaders' influences are being re-evaluated.