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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 06:38 PM Nov 2017

Don Jr.'s friend explains his 'very smart' Russia investigation strategy

Donald Trump Jr. is increasingly at the center of the Trump-Russia investigation, what with the Trump Tower meeting with Russians who offered dirt on Hillary Clinton and the Wikileaks messages. But that’s not stopping him from continuing to run his mouth as if he faces no danger, and one of his friends explains the keen strategic thinking involved:

“He’s very smart to be in the spotlight,” said Charlie Kirk, a friend and the founder of the conservative college and high school group Turning Point USA. “Would they stop the investigation if he stopped tweeting? He’s in a situation where either you defend yourself, reassure the base, reassure the supporters, or stay silent. And if you’re totally silent, it only increases suspicion.”

The Trump base is with him, Kirk added: “Most people can’t even keep up with this stuff, anyway.”
It’s almost like this guy is intent on making Josh Marshall look like a prophet. Back in July, Marshall wrote:

The abiding sense I get is not simply that they don’t know the magnitude of the legal threat but that they don’t understand the nature of the threat either. Again and again they seem to think the legal vulnerability can be trumped by good news cycles or getting the press to focus on some other individual. They don’t seem to get that a big, sprawling federal investigation like this, untethered from the political chain of command and led by one of the top law enforcement professionals of his generation, trundles onward with a perfect indifference to whether you win the morning or kill it in 10 or a 100 different news cycles. Those things just don’t matter.


[link:https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/24/1718304/-Don-Jr-s-friend-explains-his-very-smart-Russia-investigation-strategy|

The stupid - it burns
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Don Jr.'s friend explains his 'very smart' Russia investigation strategy (Original Post) Soph0571 Nov 2017 OP
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Nov 2017 #1
They think riling up their base will save them. That is all they have to do. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #2
They really believe they are going to be tried by the court of popular opinion. smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #3
Yes, PR and shyster attorneys are all they need. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #6
And their base is only 28 to 30%, rest of us are larger percentage, but they don't get it. iluvtennis Nov 2017 #7
I think they believe 30% is all they need, and a strong PR campaign. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #14
It was more than a strong PR campaign...it was RUSSIA, Wikileaks, Stein/Johnson/etc, and many in M$M iluvtennis Nov 2017 #16
Oh yes for the election you are right. I meant to beat the Russia charges Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #17
Agreed. PR won't stop Mueller though...thank goodness iluvtennis Nov 2017 #27
Exactly. He survived a year in the jungles of Viet Nam. He doesn't rattle so easy. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #28
Don't forget all the red hats they see everywhere !! Pluvious Nov 2017 #18
They think they are protected. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #21
it's worked for them so far NewJeffCT Nov 2017 #12
That is what the Trumps are banking on. And maybe some help from Putin. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #15
And maybe another mini-war on the side Pluvious Nov 2017 #20
Oh, we cannot forget a nice little war to raise Trump's ratings. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #25
I bet Vietnam era Marine Mueller has some thoughts Qutzupalotl Nov 2017 #29
I am certain he does. A year fighting in the jungles of Viet Nam has a way of giving a Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #30
Grifter Kirk, believes the rubes can't keep up with Trump Russia. sarcasmo Nov 2017 #4
If it were me ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #32
Somebody ask him how exactly reassuring the base is going to make Jr. not guilty. Iggo Nov 2017 #5
Being silent would be better for them Perseus Nov 2017 #8
They should keep their mouths shut, period. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #26
K & R L. Coyote Nov 2017 #9
"Justice is blind" also applies to the investigation stage. Squirrels sent to distract go unseen. Fred Sanders Nov 2017 #10
Trump has skated by his entire life NewJeffCT Nov 2017 #13
They believes theys got the ULTIMATE TRUMP CARD... Pluvious Nov 2017 #23
He doesn't realize 'the court of public opinion' isn't the one he'll be tried in eom Maeve Nov 2017 #11
"Most people can't even keep up with this stuff anyway" SonofDonald Nov 2017 #19
these things do matter in the sense that they will use the continued denial for compromise certainot Nov 2017 #22
And even were Don Jr. ever so smart, Virtual Burlesque Nov 2017 #24
The WaPo source of Dkos blog says Donnie Jr is more a politician than his father. hedda_foil Nov 2017 #31
Oh, and he's doing a bang up job of that, isn't he? nt tomp Nov 2017 #33
There is 1 thing the article left out that the Trumps rely on Farmer-Rick Nov 2017 #34
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
3. They really believe they are going to be tried by the court of popular opinion.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 07:05 PM
Nov 2017

This only underscores how incredibly stupid and naive they are.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
6. Yes, PR and shyster attorneys are all they need.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 07:11 PM
Nov 2017

It has always worked for them before.

This time is different. And they don't seem to understand.
Like one of those not too bright crime families.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
14. I think they believe 30% is all they need, and a strong PR campaign.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 08:54 PM
Nov 2017

They can go to the mattresses and ride it out.

iluvtennis

(19,858 posts)
16. It was more than a strong PR campaign...it was RUSSIA, Wikileaks, Stein/Johnson/etc, and many in M$M
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 08:59 PM
Nov 2017

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
17. Oh yes for the election you are right. I meant to beat the Russia charges
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 09:00 PM
Nov 2017

they think they just need a PR campaign and the Deplorables.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
12. it's worked for them so far
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 08:53 PM
Nov 2017

Other than a few strongly worded statements and tweets from Jeff Flake, Republicans in Congress have not stood up to Trump at all. Sure, the occasional hand-wringing and head shaking, but not much else.

They are scared of the Deplorables.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
25. Oh, we cannot forget a nice little war to raise Trump's ratings.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 09:45 PM
Nov 2017

And of course a war time president cannot be bothered by silly faux investigations.

Doesn't matter the carnage, damage, etc.

Qutzupalotl

(14,311 posts)
29. I bet Vietnam era Marine Mueller has some thoughts
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 03:19 PM
Nov 2017

about due deference to the prep school popinjay when he suddenly wants to send other kids to war to obstruct justice.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
30. I am certain he does. A year fighting in the jungles of Viet Nam has a way of giving a
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 03:22 PM
Nov 2017

very serious set of opinions.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
4. Grifter Kirk, believes the rubes can't keep up with Trump Russia.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 07:08 PM
Nov 2017


Trump friends are slimeballs, big shocker.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
32. If it were me
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 03:49 PM
Nov 2017

I would hate to rely solely on the perception that my idiot base couldn't keep up with the story. The double arrogance of calling your base idiots and believing the 30% can sustain you is beyond compare.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
5. Somebody ask him how exactly reassuring the base is going to make Jr. not guilty.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 07:11 PM
Nov 2017

Or not.

It's better that they keep running their mouths.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
8. Being silent would be better for them
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 07:53 PM
Nov 2017

because every time they open their mouths, or tweet, they put their feet in their mouths. Muller wants them to continue talking and tweeting, free evidence. I think Don Jrs friend is as smart as Don Jr, not much.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
26. They should keep their mouths shut, period.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 09:48 PM
Nov 2017

If they were smart that is....
The words smart and Don Jr don't belong in the same sentence.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
10. "Justice is blind" also applies to the investigation stage. Squirrels sent to distract go unseen.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 08:15 PM
Nov 2017

The Trump crime family now encircled either do not get that or still believe their lawyers can get them out of the pickle, again or their cult will do...something, something.


NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
13. Trump has skated by his entire life
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 08:54 PM
Nov 2017

all of 70 years - he's not going to be able to change. he probably thinks they'll be able to wiggle out of it again.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
19. "Most people can't even keep up with this stuff anyway"
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 09:32 PM
Nov 2017

Well, his base and graduates of trump university or followers of turning point USA sure can't, that's for sure.

Along with those low information types prevalent among faux noise fans.

Oh it's going to be so fun to watch the coming meltdown........

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
22. these things do matter in the sense that they will use the continued denial for compromise
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 09:35 PM
Nov 2017

some idiots in the trump campaign like don jr may actually think their denial and deflecting the blame to clinton obama will spur base to rise up in their defense or for them to actually get away with it.

GOP leadership will keep trying to sabotage the investigation and use that rabid base-in-denial to keep their treason-enabling reps in line and force compromise from democrats on those issues where it comes down to votes - like impeachment.

critical to continuing the denial and keeping the base in line and forcing investigations and witch hunts of democrats (which they have done many times in the past) is limbaugh and sons on talk radio screaming away. they will continue a fantastic record of success because the dem party and progressive orgs continue the biggest political mistake in history - ignoring that talk radio.

the extent to which trump and company and the GOP get away with this is heavily dependent on americans continuing to allow 1500 radio stations to lie to 50 million people a week without challenge.

Virtual Burlesque

(132 posts)
24. And even were Don Jr. ever so smart,
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 09:38 PM
Nov 2017

It wouldn't be "very smart" to explain his strategy to every dim friend who happened by.

hedda_foil

(16,374 posts)
31. The WaPo source of Dkos blog says Donnie Jr is more a politician than his father.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 03:40 PM
Nov 2017


He is “more of a politician than his father,” said Louise Sunshine, a former Trump Organization executive who has known the Trump kids since they were born. “Donald was a businessman .?.?. but Donald Trump Jr. is making it his business to be a politician.”




https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/keep-coming-at-me-guys-donald-trump-jr-meets-russia-scrutiny-with-defiance/2017/11/23/f660456e-c000-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html?utm_term=.dc23e9ed7753

Farmer-Rick

(10,170 posts)
34. There is 1 thing the article left out that the Trumps rely on
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 05:02 PM
Nov 2017

To get them out of trouble...money. Specifically, bribery money.

They think they can bribe a few DAs, judges and politicians and they are home free.

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