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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 04:55 PM Nov 2017

The Democratic Party is the BEST vehicle for economic and social change

I firmly believe that. Yes, there are "bad" Democrats but we WILL weed them out. With the "help" of the Republicans and the corporate media, we will, you can believe that. We are morally superior to Republicans, you can bank on that. THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP DOES NOT GIVE A RAT'S ASS ABOUT ANYONE BESIDES THE WEALTHY. Yes, there are third parties but our best hope lies with the Democratic Party.

Do we need posts on DU bashing good Dems like Franken (who has handled his whole ordeal with grace and honesty and sensitivity) ? Hell no, in my opinion. We need to support our good Dems against the inevitable onslaught from the Republicans and the profit-oriented corporate media.

Do I believe in supporting Democrats who exhibit bad behavior ? No, but there is PROPORTIONALITY. Franken is a freaking saint compared to Trump. If a Democrat crosses the line into truly poor behavior, then yes, he or she needs to go, but there is no freaking way Franken has done this.

I know there will be some, sincerely or trollishly, who will accuse me of being a "rah rah" for the Democrats, but I don't freaking care. I've been a Democrat for 41 years and they have NEVER let me down. The Party has made mistakes of course, but the intention overall has always been good.

Enough of the trolling BS on DU. Enough I say.

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The Democratic Party is the BEST vehicle for economic and social change (Original Post) steve2470 Nov 2017 OP
In the 1960's/70's during Civil Rights/Viet Nam war protests, Dem women were told to shut up Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #1
Didn't work then & it won't work ever again. Wwcd Nov 2017 #3
no one is advocating shutting them up steve2470 Nov 2017 #4
Thank you Steve, and with all due respect this is the court of public opinion Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #5
fair enough steve2470 Nov 2017 #6
You do your thing, I'll do mine. End of story. :) Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #7
"The Democratic Party is the BEST vehicle for economic and social change" Wwcd Nov 2017 #2

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
1. In the 1960's/70's during Civil Rights/Viet Nam war protests, Dem women were told to shut up
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 05:00 PM
Nov 2017

by Dem men. It backfired, women started the feminist movement.

Won't work now either to tell Democratic women to shut up.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
4. no one is advocating shutting them up
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 05:04 PM
Nov 2017

Speak up Democratic women. You won't hear me EVER telling a Democratic woman to shut up.

Provide evidence Franken has sexually harassed women besides a stupid ill-advised joke years ago.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
5. Thank you Steve, and with all due respect this is the court of public opinion
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 05:11 PM
Nov 2017

and I don't have to be an attorney and prepare a court brief.

I don't have to present legal documents to discuss sexual harassment of women.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
6. fair enough
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 05:13 PM
Nov 2017

Until further evidence comes forward that any Democrat has truly sexually harassed any women, I'm supporting Franken. End.Of.Story.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
2. "The Democratic Party is the BEST vehicle for economic and social change"
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 05:02 PM
Nov 2017

The truest statement made.

Considering that these are the very foundations of the Democratic Party.
"Human Rights/Equal Rights"

This has always defined the Democratic Party.

As for Franken, I'll reserve judgment until his called-for investigation is complete.
He knows what has taken place and he has said all he needs to say at this point.

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