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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 04:42 PM Nov 2017

Bombshell report: new details about Trump's Oval Office meeting with Russians after he fired Comey

Bombshell report reveals new details about Trump's Oval Office meeting with Russians after he fired Comey
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President Donald Trump infuriated the US and Israeli intelligence communities when he disclosed details of a highly classified Israeli operation to Russian officials earlier this year.

Vanity Fair reported on Thursday that a top US official told the Israelis in January that Russia had "leverages of pressure" over Trump.


President Donald Trump sparked widespread concern within the US and Israeli intelligence communities earlier this year when he disclosed details of a highly classified Israeli operation to Russian officials, according to a new Vanity Fair report.

The Washington Post first reported in May that Trump told Russia's foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, and ambassador to the US at the time, Sergey Kislyak, about the terrorist group ISIS's work to develop a laptop bomb that could pass through airport security undetected — information Trump had received from Israeli intelligence officials.

The information was highly classified and had not been disclosed even to close American allies.

Vanity Fair reported on Wednesday that a top American spy told Israeli intelligence officials during a meeting at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, a few weeks before Trump's inauguration that US intelligence believed Russian President Vladimir Putin had "leverages of pressure" over Trump.

The report said that American official warned that information provided to the White House could be leaked to the Russians and, therefore, eventually to their ally Iran, Israel's greatest adversary.

http://www.businessinsider.com/bombshell-report-trump-oval-office-meeting-russians-comey-2017-11
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Bombshell report: new details about Trump's Oval Office meeting with Russians after he fired Comey (Original Post) workinclasszero Nov 2017 OP
"Leverages of pressure." And what might those be? nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #1
Pee pee tapes workinclasszero Nov 2017 #4
More sex tapes, or money issues? Trump is being blackmailed by Putin. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #5
Trump has been a Russian asset for years apparently workinclasszero Nov 2017 #6
Putin has used carrot and stick I think. Promised Trump he too can become one of the world's richest Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #7
And the stick is that he could get hundreds of Russians to pull their investments with Trump bettyellen Nov 2017 #14
You nailed it Betty. Trump is a house of cards, wouldn't take much to blow it down. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #15
Trump thinks he is above the law, and could legally survive all this....but $$ matters to him bettyellen Nov 2017 #16
I agree totally, he has always gotten out of everything and thinks he can now. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #17
He'll be happy enough if he can pardon his family and screw everyone else - leaving them to pick up bettyellen Nov 2017 #18
That will be the deal they cut with him, immunity for him and his spawn. And some money Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #19
Let him save face if it saves the country murielm99 Nov 2017 #20
No outs. Full prosecution, full jail time, full fines...... tomp Nov 2017 #23
That is my strong wish too. But I don't see it happening. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #25
OK, here goes... tomp Nov 2017 #28
I agree with everything you say, but Trump will be quite dangerous when cornered. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #30
Agreed. Each time we let these powerful shits off, jrthin Nov 2017 #26
I feel silly now for assuming it was all about the pee tape! I think you're right! renate Nov 2017 #29
Yes I think we have gone way beyond sex tapes. No one seems to care about them anyway. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #32
The word espionage is being used more widely, now. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2017 #36
Money, sex, political favors. The lot. Trump is a kompromat factory. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #11
I don't know how someone is going to write a book one day. So much crap to cover. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #12
Seven volume set. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2017 #22
At least, two volumes needed just for the money laundering schemes Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #24
Ain't that the truth! workinclasszero Nov 2017 #27
There is the working title of the Trump story. :) nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #31
LOL :D workinclasszero Nov 2017 #34
debt, loans, the fact Russia propped up this failed businessman Takket Nov 2017 #9
Yep, money and sex. He has been on the Russian payroll for a long time. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #10
Not even any need to speculate. He has business interests in russia unblock Nov 2017 #33
Yep, they can totally bankrupt him in 24 hours. That is what is scaring him. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #35
thanks again to the reporters at Vanity Fair--you are our warriors librechik Nov 2017 #2
No need for elaborate mole hunts anymore! BootinUp Nov 2017 #3
TRAITOR IN CHIEF Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #8
how could he not be impeached over this? Takket Nov 2017 #13
You're kidding, right? SergeStorms Nov 2017 #21
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
6. Trump has been a Russian asset for years apparently
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 04:57 PM
Nov 2017

And now he squats in the white house telling Putin every last secret this country has.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
7. Putin has used carrot and stick I think. Promised Trump he too can become one of the world's richest
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 05:03 PM
Nov 2017

men if he follows Putin's lead. Trump will do anything for the right price.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
14. And the stick is that he could get hundreds of Russians to pull their investments with Trump
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 05:39 PM
Nov 2017

He could do it all at once and send him into bankruptcy.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
15. You nailed it Betty. Trump is a house of cards, wouldn't take much to blow it down.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 05:58 PM
Nov 2017

This is the leverage Putin has on Trump, exactly.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
17. I agree totally, he has always gotten out of everything and thinks he can now.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 06:02 PM
Nov 2017

He doesn't really care about being president, he just wants money and power.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
18. He'll be happy enough if he can pardon his family and screw everyone else - leaving them to pick up
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 06:03 PM
Nov 2017

The pieces and serve time. I hope Flynn knows that.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
19. That will be the deal they cut with him, immunity for him and his spawn. And some money
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 06:06 PM
Nov 2017

arrangements. He will have to have a face saving out. At everyone else's expense.

Yes Flynn should be aware of all of this or he is an idiot.

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
20. Let him save face if it saves the country
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 06:37 PM
Nov 2017

and the world.

Just make sure he becomes the pariah that Nixon became. Every time someone interviews him or tries to keep him in the news, raise holy hell about it. Silence that fucker!

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
23. No outs. Full prosecution, full jail time, full fines......
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 06:50 PM
Nov 2017

...for the full group. We need to finally learn the lessons of Nixon and Bush/Cheney, inc. All this corruption has to be out on the table for justice to be done, for the people to learn, and for the country to be righted. These people deserve no quarter privilege. Letting them off the hook in any way is actually counterproductive.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
25. That is my strong wish too. But I don't see it happening.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 06:54 PM
Nov 2017

One, Washington insiders do not want to send a sitting president to jail.
Two, Trump will be quite dangerous, and needs to be handled carefully.
Three, his insane base will be dangerous.

I think it will unfold along the lines of Nixon's exit.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
28. OK, here goes...
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 07:21 PM
Nov 2017

1) fuck the insiders. They are the problem not the solution. We have to fight them.

2) if the insiders don't just take him out we have to fight them.

3) if the fascists rise up, well.....I think you see where I'm going with this.

The corporate state is not capable of giving justice at this point. Strategies have to change, rules have to change.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
30. I agree with everything you say, but Trump will be quite dangerous when cornered.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 07:23 PM
Nov 2017

He is going to have to be managed carefully.

Frankly I think he should be tried and hung for treason, but it won't happen.

renate

(13,776 posts)
29. I feel silly now for assuming it was all about the pee tape! I think you're right!
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 07:22 PM
Nov 2017

There was a time, oh so many years ago it seems, when it was reasonable to assume that holding a pee tape over Trump's head would be enough for Putin to get him to do his bidding. But now, release of that tape would be as shocking as any other Friday.

So yes, I think you're right. Pee tape, shmee tape. Putin could bankrupt Trump with a word. That's his leverage. It's all crystal clear now.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
32. Yes I think we have gone way beyond sex tapes. No one seems to care about them anyway.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 07:26 PM
Nov 2017

It is the money, period.
Good discussion, we got the answer to the leverage question.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
36. The word espionage is being used more widely, now.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 07:52 PM
Nov 2017

I think it was Vanity Fair which just recently reported Trump's involvement with Russia going back to 1986.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
12. I don't know how someone is going to write a book one day. So much crap to cover.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 05:21 PM
Nov 2017

No one will believe it.

Takket

(21,568 posts)
9. debt, loans, the fact Russia propped up this failed businessman
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 05:14 PM
Nov 2017

for years and years so he could keep showing his pathetic family the sweet life.... and hide from them that he a clueless idiot......... and now it is time to pay the piper.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
10. Yep, money and sex. He has been on the Russian payroll for a long time.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 05:17 PM
Nov 2017

And it was time to pay back the loans.

unblock

(52,227 posts)
33. Not even any need to speculate. He has business interests in russia
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 07:30 PM
Nov 2017

They likely have kompromat as well, but no need to speculate.

They can helps or hinder his business interests. That alone is motive for him to do things contrary to the nation's interest.

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
35. Yep, they can totally bankrupt him in 24 hours. That is what is scaring him.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 07:33 PM
Nov 2017

Treason and hurting the US matters not a whit to him.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
21. You're kidding, right?
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 06:45 PM
Nov 2017

With a Republican controlled Congress, nothing will ever come of this. The Republicans have sent every message in the world that it's party over politics as far as they're concerned, and they'd never impeach Trump, no matter what he did.

If, after the mid-terms, and if Democrats take back both Houses of Congress, and if Trump is still in the Oval Office, then there's an avenue to impeach the Orange Shit Cannon. As it stands right now, it'll never happen.

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