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Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:07 AM Nov 2017

Trump's tweets about Franken ice it. This was a hit job.

Add to that Stone knowing ahead of time this was coming.

Add to that the woman's close relationship with the likes of Hannity.




The difficulty with all of this is how to refute any of this based on things other than the alleged acts of Franken.

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Trump's tweets about Franken ice it. This was a hit job. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 OP
To hell with Homeoutside Nov 2017 #1
Against who? leftynyc Nov 2017 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #15
And what exactly is he to sue her for? leftynyc Nov 2017 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #20
You know that he's already apologized? And the apology has been accepted? brooklynite Nov 2017 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #43
I want the investigation to show that Ilsa Nov 2017 #7
They are so scared of the Franken. C_U_L8R Nov 2017 #2
Gosh darn it you're right. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #14
And gosh darn it Beausoleil Nov 2017 #31
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #35
Bannon/Stone special... HipChick Nov 2017 #3
Yep, its good Franken called for investigation uponit7771 Nov 2017 #5
An investigation will be expensive for her greymattermom Nov 2017 #6
Like Repukes aren't good at hiding money? n/t rzemanfl Nov 2017 #26
Add to that Hannity saying "I remember you showed me this years ago". HughBeaumont Nov 2017 #8
Years ago my ass! They wouldn't have gotten that out to trash his senate campaign? brewens Nov 2017 #13
I think they cut the kiss PJMcK Nov 2017 #17
Given that his 2008 Senate race was SO close... Chiyo-chichi Nov 2017 #18
I looked for info on Hannity saying that. Do you have a link? Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #23
He interviewed Tweeden on his radio show octoberlib Nov 2017 #24
That's very telling. Still I wish I had the source link to pass around. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #25
I found a video, yepppppp! Hannity says that here. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #27
Thanks! octoberlib Nov 2017 #30
YEEHAAAW! orangecrush Nov 2017 #41
I'd actually pay to see Hannity called as a witness, sworn in and all Blaukraut Nov 2017 #32
Reminds me of Hannity claiming that Trump had told him "years ago" Tanuki Nov 2017 #42
I feel like there's not a lot to this one unless more accusers come forth Dem2 Nov 2017 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #10
Yep which is why I said from the beginning that Franken can resign malaise Nov 2017 #11
Those demanding Franken's resignation need to back the fuck off. Paladin Nov 2017 #12
I do think resignation was the goal of this plot... hexola Nov 2017 #21
I think you very well may be right. Paladin Nov 2017 #29
True. There are those that call themselves Democrats that actually hate Democrats I think. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #38
Morning Joe crew was asking how Stone knew this was coming. Ilsa Nov 2017 #16
Yep. That's what smart people do. They ask questions. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #44
Stone AND Infowars writer knowing ahead of time! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #22
Sessions, Sessions, Sessions...hit job..let the investigation go forward.... asiliveandbreathe Nov 2017 #28
This is a fat perverted Stone MFM008 Nov 2017 #33
Importantly, even if found out, it allows for discrediting the victim unitedwethrive Nov 2017 #34
They're evil bastards, aren't they. Either way, they're fine and the lady takes the hit. crosinski Nov 2017 #40
It is exactly that...and the 'accuser' is already backing down...appears to be joke and everyone Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #36
On the View... LakeArenal Nov 2017 #39
Sen Franken is the new Republican God Deb Nov 2017 #45
Yup - this was a Steve Bannon hit job. Initech Nov 2017 #46
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
4. Against who?
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:13 AM
Nov 2017

And for what? Don't get me wrong, there is NO way Franken should even consider resigning but a lawsuit?

Response to leftynyc (Reply #4)

Response to leftynyc (Reply #19)

Response to brooklynite (Reply #37)

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
7. I want the investigation to show that
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:21 AM
Nov 2017

Franken has this one-only incident of poor behavior, and even that was before he considered a run for senate. I want him, with his honesty and apology, to come out looking cleaner than any other politician, and to make DOTUS look like the heathen he is.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
2. They are so scared of the Franken.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:11 AM
Nov 2017

Last edited Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:31 AM - Edit history (1)

He's smart enough. He's strong enough. And gosh darn it, he's brave enough.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
6. An investigation will be expensive for her
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:20 AM
Nov 2017

as she'll have to travel, hire attorneys, etc. at her own expense. If anyone else pays, it will be seen as an obvious hit job.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
8. Add to that Hannity saying "I remember you showed me this years ago".
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:22 AM
Nov 2017

It's like they're not even TRYING to be low-key about their ratfucking.

brewens

(13,598 posts)
13. Years ago my ass! They wouldn't have gotten that out to trash his senate campaign?
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:33 AM
Nov 2017

I'd love to see a video of the skit if it exists. I see one pic of them with mics evidently during it. I'd especially like to see the kiss in the skit and see how that went. Did she make it a nice one and seem to have fun with it? She could have put the kibosh on that altogether.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
17. I think they cut the kiss
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:38 AM
Nov 2017

Senator Franken implied that in rehearsal, it wasn't funny so they dropped it from the routine.

Chiyo-chichi

(3,582 posts)
18. Given that his 2008 Senate race was SO close...
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:43 AM
Nov 2017

it seems like this would have come out then... especially if Hannity knew of it "years ago."

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
27. I found a video, yepppppp! Hannity says that here.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:40 AM
Nov 2017


Hannity so full of BS & fake concern.

He saw the picture al long time ago but chose to keep her confidence all these years! Yeah, right.

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
32. I'd actually pay to see Hannity called as a witness, sworn in and all
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 12:21 PM
Nov 2017

Would he perjure himself or be a coward and pull a Sessions? ...."Ah do not recall"

Tanuki

(14,919 posts)
42. Reminds me of Hannity claiming that Trump had told him "years ago"
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 01:06 PM
Nov 2017

that he opposed the Iraq War to try to help Trump weasel out of his obvious hypocrisy, on-the-record support, and inconsistency on the subject.
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/137249/last-night-donald-trump-boy-cried-hannity

"Last night, Donald Trump was the boy who cried Hannity.
Pressed repeatedly by Hillary Clinton and moderator Lester Holt about his claim that he opposed the Iraq War—he supported it—Trump sputtered. Pushed into a corner by Clinton and Holt, he turned to Sean Hannity, the Fox News host and unofficial Trump surrogate, for backup. “Sean Hannity said very strongly, to me and other people, he’s willing to say, but nobody wants to call him, I was against the war. He said, ‘You used to have fights with me,’ because Sean was in favor of the war.” Over the course of his rambling answer, Trump said Hannity’s name four times.

Hannity, of course, backed Trump up because Hannity is not a journalist. (In fairness to Hannity, he does not claim that he’s a journalist.)

Trump: As you know, I used your name today because you and I used to argue over the war before the war.

Hannity: I thought you forgot!

Trump: This was before the war! I don’t forget.

Hannity: You used to [call me]. You know how many times we had conversations?

Trump: Numerous times.

Hannity: And you told me I was wrong, in fairness for those people who are asking me in the media you did tell me over and over again that I was wrong.

Trump: [big smile]

But there is, of course, a problem. Hannity, like Trump, has no actual evidence that Trump opposed the Iraq War. (Evidence that he supported the war exists, however.) Journalist Robert Draper took Trump’s advice and called Hannity:

It’s hard to believe that Trump and Hannity would let these conversations be private, given the political climate in 2003, especially on Fox and right-wing radio. Anyone who opposed the war was being excoriated as a traitor (and Hannity keeping Trump’s Iraq War opposition private at the least seems like bad radio).

On the flip side, if Trump had gone on Hannity’s show, as Hannity has claimed, and expressed opposition to the Iraq War, it’s highly likely that another record of this conversation would exist. Finally, Trump is not exactly known for keeping attention-grabbing opinions secret, and in early 2003 opposing the Iraq War was as attention-grabbing as it gets.

The case of Donald Trump and the Iraq War is pretty simple. On the one hand, before the invasion—when it mattered—Trump told Howard Stern that he was in favor of the war. On the other, you can take Donald Trump and Sean Hannity’s word that he vehemently opposed it. I’ll leave it at that."

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
9. I feel like there's not a lot to this one unless more accusers come forth
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:23 AM
Nov 2017

Franken knocked it down quickly. Many men in his generation can relate to moronic misogynist pranks/jokes they'd prefer not to remember.

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Paladin

(28,265 posts)
12. Those demanding Franken's resignation need to back the fuck off.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:30 AM
Nov 2017

Franken is handling this matter as he should: an expression of sincere regret, and a statement of willingness to aid in an investigation. A censure vote from the Senate would be more than enough punishment---that's a lot more than trump is ever going to face, for far-worse actions.

Paladin

(28,265 posts)
29. I think you very well may be right.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:48 AM
Nov 2017

Way too many Democrats seem willing to help out, and that's damned unfortunate.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
16. Morning Joe crew was asking how Stone knew this was coming.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:38 AM
Nov 2017

They know it was a hit job, but don't have the proof. All they could do was set it up for viewers to speculate.

For sure, gop fears Franken.

BannonsLiver

(16,398 posts)
44. Yep. That's what smart people do. They ask questions.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 01:08 PM
Nov 2017

Dumb people go around believing everything they hear, taking everything at face value while moralizing to others about being consistent.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
28. Sessions, Sessions, Sessions...hit job..let the investigation go forward....
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:44 AM
Nov 2017

Franken for Senate in days gone by...crickets from Tweeden - Tweeden accepts apology - so be it..investigate .now, can we get back to our medicare and Medicaid being gutted.....

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
34. Importantly, even if found out, it allows for discrediting the victim
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 12:39 PM
Nov 2017

They surely thought this through, and even if they are accused for the scam, it puts into the conversation that not all accusers are being truthful.

crosinski

(411 posts)
40. They're evil bastards, aren't they. Either way, they're fine and the lady takes the hit.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 01:01 PM
Nov 2017

I feel sorry for her in a way, because it's beginning to look like she's being used and is going along with it willingly.

Demsrule86

(68,595 posts)
36. It is exactly that...and the 'accuser' is already backing down...appears to be joke and everyone
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 12:46 PM
Nov 2017

knew about it...so for all who try to screw Democrats with this shit or demanded Franken's resignation ...fuck you. Oh and Sen. Gillibrand...you showed little loyalty and helped put the screws to Sen. Franken...with your breathless, 'I believe the accuser'.with no evidence at all...complete lack of judgment. These comments show you are not presidential material. If it were not such a dire year for Dems in the Senate...and yet we still have a chance, I would recommend primarying you but not this year with a possible Senate majority on the horizon.

LakeArenal

(28,823 posts)
39. On the View...
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 12:56 PM
Nov 2017

Tweed made sure to remind folks she has a radio show...Hmmm, a radio show that needs ratings... hmmmm........ a conservative radio show that needs ratings.... ahhhhhhhh....

Initech

(100,081 posts)
46. Yup - this was a Steve Bannon hit job.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 01:12 PM
Nov 2017

We need to hammer that down. We cannot let them get away this this.

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