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Cattledog

(5,916 posts)
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 08:12 AM Nov 2017

Who remembers the McMartin Preschool trial?

The Trial That Unleashed Hysteria Over Child Abuse

Early in the 19th century, two unmarried women who ran a school for girls in Edinburgh found themselves accused by a student of being lesbians. The charge, quite grave in that era, was baseless, and in time the women won a libel suit. But not before they had lost everything, including their school. If this story rings a bell, it may be because Lillian Hellman used it as a starting point for “The Children’s Hour,” her 1934 play about a couple of schoolteachers whose lives similarly come unraveled after a malicious student falsely accuses them of lesbianism.

It has long been said, in varying language, that a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on. You do not have to reach back 200 years to Scotland to find enduring wisdom in that adage. You need return only to the 1980s and to the subject of this week’s Retro Report documentary video, part of a series re-examining news stories from the past. This week’s subject is the notorious McMartin Preschool abuse trial.

Starting in 1983, with accusations from a mother whose mental instability later became an issue in the case, the operators of a day care center near Los Angeles were charged with raping and sodomizing dozens of small children. The trial dragged on for years, one of the longest and costliest in American history. In the end, as with the Scottish women, lives were undone. But no one was ever convicted of a single act of wrongdoing. Indeed, some of the early allegations were so fantastic as to make many people wonder later how anyone could have believed them in the first place. Really now, teachers chopped up animals, clubbed a horse to death with a baseball bat, sacrificed a baby in a church and made children drink the blood, dressed up as witches and flew in the air — and all this had been going on unnoticed for a good long while until a disturbed mother spoke up?

Still, McMartin unleashed nationwide hysteria about child abuse and Satanism in schools. One report after another told of horrific practices, with the Devil often literally in the details.

Criminal cases of dubious provenance abounded. One that received great attention involved Margaret Kelly Michaels, convicted in 1988 of rampant sexual abuse at the Wee Care Day Nursery in Maplewood, N.J., where children said she had sexually abused them with knives, spoons and forks, and had urinated in their mouths. None showed signs of injury. Six years later, Ms. Michaels’s conviction was overturned. Another prominent case from those days involved charges of rape and sodomy brought against the operators of the Little Rascals Day Care Center in Edenton, N.C. As with McMartin, there were bizarre allegations early on about babies being murdered and children thrown in with sharks. Though defendants were found guilty, their convictions were later overturned and charges were dropped.

Article at:

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/10/us/the-trial-that-unleashed-hysteria-over-child-abuse.html?_r=0

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Who remembers the McMartin Preschool trial? (Original Post) Cattledog Nov 2017 OP
I remember it. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2017 #1
I remember all of them, although the memories are fading. Just like... TreasonousBastard Nov 2017 #2
Yep, history keeps repeating itself over and over again. LisaL Nov 2017 #3
I worked at a daycare center in NYC (Harlem) in 1984. McMartin changed everything. no_hypocrisy Nov 2017 #4
I remember it. For any DUers octoberlib Nov 2017 #5
Also, roscoeroscoe Nov 2017 #6
I remember it. denbot Nov 2017 #7
Yup - and the whole "Satanic Panic" - it wasn't just McMartin (e.g. Pizzagate) jberryhill Nov 2017 #8
I, too, remember this with great disgust. I come from a family of teachers Guilded Lilly Nov 2017 #9
I cited this in a post in which I got royally flamed. Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 #10
Reminiscent bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #11
Movie bpj62 Nov 2017 #12
I remember well the Satanic day care trial. Nitram Nov 2017 #13
That spawned a few Law and Order episodes SCVDem Nov 2017 #14
I remember the satanic panic d_r Nov 2017 #15
i remember this one AllaN01Bear Nov 2017 #16
Dont forget the Dale Akiki case mainer Nov 2017 #17
I certainly remember catrose Nov 2017 #18
It is possible for evil or crazy people to make things up treestar Nov 2017 #19
Dale Akiki. Accused by rabid fundies. maveric Nov 2017 #20
"recovered memories" Dawson Leery Nov 2017 #21

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. I remember all of them, although the memories are fading. Just like...
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 08:42 AM
Nov 2017

the Salem witch trials, it seems we are all too willing to believe the fantastic.

Perhaps it's as simple as the truth being boring, and we are looking for excitement.

no_hypocrisy

(46,130 posts)
4. I worked at a daycare center in NYC (Harlem) in 1984. McMartin changed everything.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 08:44 AM
Nov 2017

All of a sudden, the teachers were directed to not touch the children whereas we used to freely hug our kids.

We were directed to surrender our fingerprints for registration without the preliminary arrest. If you refused to fingerprint, then you were fired.

I left before it really got nuts. The parents smelled blood in the water. I watched as 4-5 teachers and staff (including a 67 year old woman who was the cook) were accused of molesting our kids. They were investigated, suspended during the investigation, and re-instated. But it really got out of control.

The really sad thing is we had such a progressive kindergarten program. Multi-cultural which included the study of four languages (Patwah, Spanish, Mandarin Chinese, and International Sign Language). We had an Apple Computer (1984!) to introduce letters and reading. We had African history, art, and dance. And more. And it's all gone.

The introduction of universal suspicion lost the trust of our parents, our community, and the system generally.

It was the best year I ever taught.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
5. I remember it. For any DUers
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 08:56 AM
Nov 2017

who like to read I highly recommend Fantasyland by Kurt Andersen, co-founder and ex-editor of Spy magazine. He has a chapter on this as well as the satanic cult craze that swept through America.

denbot

(9,900 posts)
7. I remember it.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 09:13 AM
Nov 2017

My wife has lived in that community all her life. We discussed this recently, and both of us thought at the time that the allegations were way over the top. We were correct, but those poor people involved with the Mc Martin School were crushed by the gullibility, and culpability of fame seeking “do-gooders”.

We have wondered if the children used by the “experts” suffered long term harm.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
8. Yup - and the whole "Satanic Panic" - it wasn't just McMartin (e.g. Pizzagate)
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 09:20 AM
Nov 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse

Satanic ritual abuse (SRA, sometimes known as ritual abuse, ritualistic abuse, organised abuse, sadistic ritual abuse, and other variants) was the subject of a moral panic that originated in the United States in the 1980s, spreading throughout the country and eventually to many parts of the world by the late 1990s. Allegations of SRA involved reports of physical and sexual abuse of people in the context of occult or Satanic rituals. In its most extreme form, SRA involves a worldwide organisation including the wealthy and powerful of the world elite in which children are abducted or bred for sacrifices, pornography and prostitution
.

Remember "children don't lie"?

Oy.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
9. I, too, remember this with great disgust. I come from a family of teachers
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 09:25 AM
Nov 2017

Including my grandmother, mother, sisters, and children.

That whole situation was an abomination of hate and vile accusations akin to the flourishing STUPID now infecting this country; a feeding frenzy of ugliness.

This is a country that has to constantly deal with the sensationalism and gleeful lies of manipulative dregs of humanity being validated while decency, truth and respect are sneered upon with a particularly twisted venom.

The venom gets much more attention.


Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
10. I cited this in a post in which I got royally flamed.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 09:34 AM
Nov 2017

This is a perfect example of mass hysteria with real victims - abused kids in some cases and wrongly accused care givers alike.

My next door neighbor's son was in a daycare where the daycare owners were accused of this. There was a serious investigation. The school was shut down. The result was an after-school older kid lied because she didn't want to be in the school.Meanwhile a few caregiver lives were ruined by the accusations and the school owners suffered financial and repetitional losses.

The building, a large house, is now a sober living home that has been nothing but trouble for its neighbors.

bpj62

(999 posts)
12. Movie
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 09:45 AM
Nov 2017

Indictment-The NcMartin Trial gives a very good description if the events that unfolded. The NcMartin family and anybody who was associated with them had thier lives completely destroyed by the false allegations. They lost thier jobs thier homes andvthe motherr passed away. The media sensationalized the story and then denied any wrong doing.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
14. That spawned a few Law and Order episodes
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:14 AM
Nov 2017

dealing with recovered memories.

The DA went after them like the GOP went after Hillary.

Truth be damned!

AllaN01Bear

(18,268 posts)
16. i remember this one
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:46 AM
Nov 2017

i was in a suburb of los angles at the time , the news Media frenzy drove this whole thing for ratings. my late mom who was a kindergarten teacheer for 27 years in same burb of la that i lived got hit with child abuse charges . luckily her teacher aides were able to refute the accusations

catrose

(5,068 posts)
18. I certainly remember
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:00 AM
Nov 2017

and I keep getting McMartin confused with a local Texas case, of the Kellers. They spent 21 years in jail and only recently have been granted payments for wrongful conviction. The methods used in interviewing the children are now standard examples in textbooks of how NOT to interview children.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. It is possible for evil or crazy people to make things up
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 11:58 AM
Nov 2017

It does happen. So this idea we cannot question an accuser is wrong and scary even. The thing about the lie going a long way before the truth gets its boots on - we can't just let people be tainted by mere accusation. All a person has to do is open their mouth to do that.

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