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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 09:33 AM Nov 2017

'They're In a World of Shit'



November 12, 2017 at 11:01 pm ESTBy Taegan Goddard

Vanity Fair: “A year after Trump’s stunning election, the administration has zero legislative wins, a looming investigation hanging over their heads, and Jared and Ivanka have a pretty erratic family member/boss to deal with—and New York isn’t looking much prettier.”

“The Trump-Kushners, as much skilled branders as they are political neophytes, have not been able to privately shake concern over the looming investigation. During the weekend before Mueller’s first indictments were unsealed, three sources who spoke to Kushner or were familiar with his conversations told me that he worked the phones asking about whether they thought the investigation would amount to anything. ‘They’re in a world of shit,’ one of the people close to the family told me. ‘He may seem cool, but he’s sweating, and she’s like her father. She’ll never acknowledge it and [will] blame the media. But she’s been working on her reputation forever, and now it’s going to suffer horrifically. And for what?'”

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https://politicalwire.com/2017/11/12/theyre-world-shit/
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'They're In a World of Shit' (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2017 OP
Well I don't think it has hit them yet at least for t-rump's children. Iliyah Nov 2017 #1
They've always gotten away with everything so probably think they will get out of this too. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #4
THIS exactly. BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #11
He's hanging in there... Roy Rolling Nov 2017 #44
Agree BumRushDaShow Nov 2017 #47
Exactly. And as a last resort, Daddy will pardon them. Chemisse Nov 2017 #17
Yep, there is always the Daddy pardon, get out of jail free card. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #26
Since many of their crimes were committed in New York, a Daddy pardon tblue37 Nov 2017 #35
You just have to wonder how many crimes they were committing before they got to the WH. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #39
Considering all their mob connections (Russian mob AND US mob), a whole tblue37 Nov 2017 #40
I think he had to do business with the Russian mob as he burned most of his American bridges. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #41
Yep. Plus he wanted to build in Moscow, and the Russian government and mob tblue37 Nov 2017 #42
They will ALL Walk and 50 million Americans will CHEER them on when they do. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #28
Sadly, this is a possibility. Wish it weren't ...nt Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2017 #30
Dotard can't pardon NY state crimes - racketeering, etc. adigal Nov 2017 #33
Looks like there is proof Jr colluded with WikiLeaks and Russia. He could be charged soon. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #38
There is a lot of shady stuff that goes on in the business world, but MGKrebs Nov 2017 #21
That's the tricky part for them. They are in a totally different arena. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #27
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2017 #29
This isn't like.... SergeStorms Nov 2017 #45
What if they hired Washington attorneys? Would that help them? Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #48
Much of this video really applies to their situation! brewens Nov 2017 #2
Ahahahahahhahaha!. . . . n/t annabanana Nov 2017 #6
RIP Mr. Lahey The Polack MSgt Nov 2017 #8
The Tralier Park Boys! SergeStorms Nov 2017 #46
Gee, that's so sad lillypaddle Nov 2017 #3
What reputation does Ivanka have? watoos Nov 2017 #5
iwanna's reputation not fooled Nov 2017 #34
Running a criminal enterprise while running the White House is hard work, really hard, NCjack Nov 2017 #7
Good. They're grifters and time for the grift to end. GoneOffShore Nov 2017 #9
Sad! yardwork Nov 2017 #10
The Party of Obstruction Has No Clue How to Actually Govern. dlk Nov 2017 #12
well to bad ... they're criminals scarytomcat Nov 2017 #13
Welcome to DU, scarytomcat! calimary Nov 2017 #23
thanks cousin Mary scarytomcat Nov 2017 #32
My pleasure. calimary Nov 2017 #36
They be like... orangecrush Nov 2017 #14
They could have kept on with their near royal life style. Grammy23 Nov 2017 #15
I'm betting Donnie didn't have a choice orangecrush Nov 2017 #16
Money Laundering DownriverDem Nov 2017 #20
This is likely true. Grammy23 Nov 2017 #22
Not going to end well orangecrush Nov 2017 #25
It's true. They could've gotten away with this forever. Chemisse Nov 2017 #18
I keep mumbling to myself - "this ISN'T the Manhattan real estate market!" calimary Nov 2017 #24
They got the Supreme Court DownriverDem Nov 2017 #19
And stocking the Federal judiciary not fooled Nov 2017 #37
They are where they belong IMO BadGimp Nov 2017 #31
For what? Well, as all they seem to really care about is money and Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2017 #43

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. Well I don't think it has hit them yet at least for t-rump's children.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 09:43 AM
Nov 2017

At this point I don't think they care. As for t-rump, I think he knows and that is what frighten me the most. He's unstable and it seems like GOPers and his administration are too.

Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
4. They've always gotten away with everything so probably think they will get out of this too.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 10:23 AM
Nov 2017

They think all they need is the right set of attorneys and PR campaign.

Trump is already denigrating the media, the criminal justice system, Mueller, and the intelligence
community. Like he is trying to sway the public or potential jury.

Roy Rolling

(6,928 posts)
44. He's hanging in there...
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:03 AM
Nov 2017

...hoping to sign a massive tax cut bill that will benefit him and his litter. Then he will make a quick exit wearing a golden parachute given by the GOP as a lovely parting gift.

If tax legislation is signed, both Trump and the GOP don't need each other anymore.

Chemisse

(30,816 posts)
17. Exactly. And as a last resort, Daddy will pardon them.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 12:22 PM
Nov 2017

My dream is that he is taken down (impeached) before he has a chance to pardon all his entourage. That would be sweet!

Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
26. Yep, there is always the Daddy pardon, get out of jail free card.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:49 PM
Nov 2017

So I am not sure how worried they really are.

tblue37

(65,483 posts)
40. Considering all their mob connections (Russian mob AND US mob), a whole
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 09:07 PM
Nov 2017

bunch of crimes. The New York and New Jersey construction businesses are generally mob-connected, or at least paying the mob off for safety. There is not much chance the Trumps didn't enter into mob associations with eagerness, rather than with reluctant acknowledgement that it is an inescapable part of doing business.

Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
41. I think he had to do business with the Russian mob as he burned most of his American bridges.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 09:10 PM
Nov 2017

No one wanted to work with him because he stiffs everyone, and the banks would no longer
give him loans.

tblue37

(65,483 posts)
42. Yep. Plus he wanted to build in Moscow, and the Russian government and mob
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 09:12 PM
Nov 2017

are pretty much coextensive.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
33. Dotard can't pardon NY state crimes - racketeering, etc.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 08:05 PM
Nov 2017

They are NOT going to walk - I firmly believe Donny Jr. and Jared are going to do jail time.

Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
38. Looks like there is proof Jr colluded with WikiLeaks and Russia. He could be charged soon.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 08:59 PM
Nov 2017

And I cannot wait for Kushner to be charged as well.

These people are like a Mafia family.
Unreal.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
21. There is a lot of shady stuff that goes on in the business world, but
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:02 PM
Nov 2017

there isn't the kind of scrutiny there is in politics. They don't understand these new rules they have to work under.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
45. This isn't like....
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:26 AM
Nov 2017

those, 'Page Six' stories in the New York Post though. In New York the Trumps got away with practically everything, thanks to his battalion of Attorneys. Trump's Attorneys are way out of their league with the expected charges they'll all face. This isn't like any rent hike lawsuit, or rat droppings in Trump's "World Class" Restaurants.

Just like Trump found himself far, far over his head with the Presidency, he, and his Attorneys, are in deeper than they ever thought possible with the Russian investigation. Trump's usual bluster and bravado - that usually work's with the press provincially - are not going to work under this spotlight.

The Trump 'Brand' is toast. Trump's revenue stream is going to slow to a trickle, at best, and Ivanka? She'll be lucky if she can unload her stolen designs crap at bargain bins at Truck Stops along Interstates. The entire Trump clan thought they were going to drain the U.S. Treasury right into their own bank accounts. By this time this is all finished, they might be reduced to selling freezer burned 'Trump Steaks' from the trunk of their cars.

Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
48. What if they hired Washington attorneys? Would that help them?
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:08 AM
Nov 2017

The Trumps have to be thinking of ways out of this mess.
Unless they assume they are above all of this somehow.

Yes I hope their brand is damaged forever.

The Polack MSgt

(13,192 posts)
8. RIP Mr. Lahey
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 10:39 AM
Nov 2017

Sadly, John Dunsworth, passed away recently.

He was a phenomenal physical comedian - no one ever played an angry drunk better than he did.

And this administration is without a doubt a "Shitnado"



"Shitmoths Randy, they're all just shitmoths"

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
46. The Tralier Park Boys!
Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:32 AM
Nov 2017

I haven't seen anything by them in quite some time. They're never on TV in this part of the country.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
5. What reputation does Ivanka have?
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 10:25 AM
Nov 2017

That money laundering tower in Baku, Azerbaijan is in her name. Lock her up.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
34. iwanna's reputation
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 08:46 PM
Nov 2017

Accused shoe design plagiarist?

Vapid excuse-maker for a sociopathic father?

Woman-who-married-her-father wife of a criminal real estate gangster?

Recipient-of-multiple-plastic-surgery-procedures believer in her "good genes"?

Take your pick.


NCjack

(10,279 posts)
7. Running a criminal enterprise while running the White House is hard work, really hard,
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 10:33 AM
Nov 2017

the work is hard, it's really hard. Who knew it was so hard?

dlk

(11,575 posts)
12. The Party of Obstruction Has No Clue How to Actually Govern.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 11:15 AM
Nov 2017

Given they don't believe in compromise as an integral part of any negotiation, they set themselves up for failure in our current democracy. Instead, they are racing toward fascism, where compromise isn't necessary.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
13. well to bad ... they're criminals
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 11:20 AM
Nov 2017

sometimes bad people pay big
they bit of too much
they deserve to go down

calimary

(81,441 posts)
23. Welcome to DU, scarytomcat!
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:11 PM
Nov 2017

I doubt you'll find anybody opposed to that sentiment, here.

Lock 'em up. BOTH of 'em.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
15. They could have kept on with their near royal life style.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 12:11 PM
Nov 2017

The private jets, homes (palaces) around the world, limousines, the designer clothes. The whole nine yards. But no. tRump just HAD to go for one more big thing. And they went along for it. Now everything is in jeopardy, including their freedom.

Considering how tRump acquired his riches, I am having a huge amount of difficulty working up any sympathy for their plight. Call it karma. Call it justice. Whatever you want to call it, when enough is never enough, you may get a kick in the hind quarters that millions will cheer. And would pay good money to see carried out.

I want to see this whole thing play out on the world stage. Their smug attitudes and entitled faces need to face the consequences for their crimes. And yes, I do believe there were multiple crimes committed by these people. It is high time for them to meet their fate.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
22. This is likely true.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:05 PM
Nov 2017

But remember, tRump’s ego knows no bounds. So he probably thought he could scam all of us, including Putin. He figures he is soooo smart, he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose supporters. And he really, really believes that!

So it is a little of both. tRump WAS being pushed by Putin, but his ego, massive as it is, was pushing him to go for it, too. It will be interesting to see how this works out for tRump.

Chemisse

(30,816 posts)
18. It's true. They could've gotten away with this forever.
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 12:25 PM
Nov 2017

But being president brings a' 'extreme' level of scrutiny, which none of the Trump family morans anticipated.

calimary

(81,441 posts)
24. I keep mumbling to myself - "this ISN'T the Manhattan real estate market!"
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 01:26 PM
Nov 2017

THIS does NOT work like the Manhattan real estate market does, with all its corner-cutting and sweetheart deals, bullying and blustering to intimidate and bluff your opponent, fast-talking fancy convoluted deals and "arrangements", winks 'n' handshakes, and other sleazy under-the-table wheeling 'n' dealing. It's an arena where figuring out how to bend and/or get around the rules is the favorite indoor sport. Government (at least good, scrupulous, responsible government, anyway) DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY, DAMMIT!

If you're part of the government, YOU ARE A PUBLIC SERVANT. You are supposed to be in it for the people YOU SERVE. NOT for yourself. It's not supposed to be about getting rich, or fleecing the flock, or helping yourself to all the goodies you can grab before you're forced to resign in disgrace or even flirting with indictment. And these lovely people don't have a template for that. It's not who they are, what they know, how they've lived, or where they've come from. Their mistake was believing that this "presidentin'" business was merely another round of business-as-usual.

I wish I had a nickel for every argument I've had with dim bulbs who insisted the government "should be run like a BIZness!" DAMMIT, government is NOT a business!!! Its whole reason for being is NOT to make a profit. It exists to serve the needs and interests of THE PEOPLE, DAMMIT! NOT oneself.

You're NOT supposed to go into public service to pad your own pockets, DAMMIT! You're NOT supposed to go into public service to give yourself a tax cut. You're NOT supposed to go into public service with an eye toward slapping the presidential seal on everything in your golf club's pro shop, or so you can then jack up the price of membership to take advantage of your new "position".

Public service is, and should be, a higher calling. To which money-grubbers and grifters need not apply.

DownriverDem

(6,231 posts)
19. They got the Supreme Court
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 12:29 PM
Nov 2017

The Supreme Court pick of Gorsuch is one that will hurt for years to come. And yes, we were all warned about this if trump won.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
37. And stocking the Federal judiciary
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 08:50 PM
Nov 2017

with RWNJs



And wrecking Federal agencies as much as they can.

And wrecking the State Dep't.

Well, we all know the list of atrocities. No need to go on.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
43. For what? Well, as all they seem to really care about is money and
Mon Nov 13, 2017, 09:48 PM
Nov 2017

power, I'd say they're doing all right. Trump & Kushner seem to be raking in the dough because of the positions they hold. They have plenty of power, maybe not for legislative wins, but that's not really that important to them.

Trump or Pence will pardon anyone who is convicted, so they'll probably get to keep all their ill-gotten gains, no matter what.

Also, Trump has trashed the government in ways that it will take years and years to recover from. I'm sure that makes him, and the people who will be his benefactors after he's out of office, very happy.

Ugh, I'm sorry to be so pessimistic, but I'm not sure most people know just how much damage Trump has already done. And I'm sure I don't really know the extent of it.

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