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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAmerica's cruel way to punish poor debtors: take away their driver's license
Damian Stinnie is one of the millions of people in America who have had their drivers licenses suspended because of unpaid debt. Despite spending much of his childhood in foster care, Stinnie graduated from high school with a 3.9 grade point average. While seeking work after losing his first low-paying job, he received four traffic violations and racked up $1,000 in fines and costs.
Because he was unable to pay the full amount within 30 days, his license was automatically suspended. As is routine in many states, including Virginia, where Stinnie lived, no one asked him if he could afford to pay. So, like three-quarters of those suspended, Stinnie lost his license essentially because he was poor, not because of the infractions themselves.
At that point, Stinnie joined the millions of Americans who face the dilemma of getting to work, taking a sick child to the hospital, or buying groceries while risking penalties for driving with a suspended license.
Needless to say, many people take the risk because they have no choice; at least 75% of those who have their licenses suspended keep driving. So the debtor may be arrested again for driving without a license, this time to be incarcerated and certainly to be hit with another set of fines and fees.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/10/america-punish-poor-debtors-drivers-license-suspension
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pangaia
(24,324 posts)Demsrule86
(68,685 posts)from experiencing it themselves.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)If you call the Clerk of Court they will either offer you a continuation on your court date several months later or a payment plan or usually both options.
But the one think you dont ever do is just skip the court date and ignore the ticket because you cant pay. Do that and its a guaranteed trip to jail next time you get pulled over. ALWAYS contact the court and make arrangements.
The only time Ive ever seen a Clerk and Judge not give a person a break on the fine amount or a payment plan when asked was when they were in for the 5th moving violation in 4 months and it was a misdemeanor hit and run- the judge was sick of seeing him by that point and suspendenx his license on the spot.
Demsrule86
(68,685 posts)it, and often such folks are jailed. My hubs hit my daughter's car...we were jumping her as her battery failed and some how he hit the gear with his and hit the gas...we paid for the damage...older car no collision anyway. An overzealous cop gave us a ticket. We had to go to court where the judge threw the ticket out...but even thought we were not charged with anything, we had to pay $150.00 in court fees. The judge apologized and said he did not have the ability to remove the charges. So in Ohio just be charged with something or given a ticket results in substantial court fees. I live in Ohio and I consider this an outrage. And I know of several cases where the cops use this to harass someone they don't like.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Vinca
(50,304 posts)It's kind of a modern day version of debtor's prison. Lock 'em up until they pay.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Never made sense to me. Oh, Mr Electrician, you are behind on child support? We are revoking your electrical contractor license so we hope that helps you get caught up.
turbinetree
(24,720 posts)Vera Cheeks, a resident of Bainbridge, Georgia, was ticketed for rolling through a stop sign in 2014. The judge hit her with a $135 fine and ordered her to pay it in full immediately. Cheeks said that she was unemployed and caring for her terminally ill father, so the judge gave her three months to pay up, during which time shed be on probation. He sent her to a room behind the courtroom, where a long line of peopleall of them African-Americanwere waiting to pay money to a woman behind a desk. It was like the twilight zone, totally mind-boggling, Cheeks recalls.
The woman behind the desk told Cheeks that she had to sign a paper indicating that she had been placed on probation and now owed $267the fine plus $105 for the (for-profit) probation company that would be monitoring her, as well as $27 for the Georgia Crime Victims Emergency Fund. When Cheeks refused to agree to the so-called probation and the additional sums, the womanwho, it turned out, worked for the probation companytold her that the judge would put her in jail for five days. Cheeks still refused, and finally the woman demanded a $50 payment on the spot if Cheeks wanted to avoid being jailed. Cheekss fiancé raised the money by pawning her engagement ring and Weed Eater lawn machine. That avoided the crisis for the moment, but Cheeks was told she would still be jailed if she was late on even one payment.
https://www.thenation.com/article/the-price-of-justice/
When I was growing up, "nothing" was privatized in the justice system