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Wounded Bear

(58,664 posts)
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:14 PM Nov 2017

I don't put much stock into the "Dems gotta change" threads...

(Someone suggested I should put this out as an OP)

Fact is, the party is changing. It may not be moving in a direction that some people like, but it is definitely changing.

And yes, in large part it started in earnest on Jan 21, 2017, when women across the country woke up to their own power and marched in the streets. They were joined by their husbands, brothers, uncles, and male friends, but it was a Woman's March in its inception and execution.

Following that, women across the country started investigating how to run for office, how to support others in that endeavor, or maybe just meeting together to show each other support. Networks are being pieced together, power blocs are being formed and Democrats across the country are getting together, including in many places where people didn't know they had kindred spirits so close to them.

Many of the folks I read here and elsewhere seem to want to specify how the Democratic Party needs to change. Everybody seems to have the answer. The truth is that the real answers need to bubble up from the grass roots. They say that "all politics are local." That's what we saw in Virginia and in New Jersey and elsewhere. We won't be successful if the DNC dictates how local candidates have to frame their campaigns in any but a general sense. I certainly don't care what someone thinks our national slogan for 2020 should be now. That will come with time.

We are in a revolution, already in progress, which is being decided organically from below. That's a good thing. As for 2020, I don't join into any speculative threads about that. I suspect, and rather hope that our candidate for Pres in 2020 is someone we don't suspect now, and maybe don't even know. Yes, the "guard" is changing right before our eyes. We can all vote and publish and work to effect the outcome, but it really isn't clear just yet what the near future will look like.

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I don't put much stock into the "Dems gotta change" threads... (Original Post) Wounded Bear Nov 2017 OP
. Squinch Nov 2017 #1
A lot of the pushback is because of these changes. That's what trump is JI7 Nov 2017 #2
It's not that I disagree zipplewrath Nov 2017 #3
We started the wave and it will continue. sheshe2 Nov 2017 #4

JI7

(89,251 posts)
2. A lot of the pushback is because of these changes. That's what trump is
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:21 PM
Nov 2017

There is always backlash against gains in civil rights. But the people who fight for those rights don't stop.

Same sex marriage is an example. There was pushback with things like state bans on marriage but people just fought harder.

The race with the transgender woman danica roem beating the candidate who pushed the bathroom crap is kind of the best.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
3. It's not that I disagree
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:41 PM
Nov 2017

It's more of a case that there are organizations that in essence don't agree with you. And I'm talking about everything from the DCCC to DFA. There are forces that actively work to undermine grass roots and local control. National figures get involved in local races and primaries. DSCC works to support incumbents. They don't like primaries where grassroots can vote to remove representatives that don't represent their values.

So do I get involved to oppose those organizations?

sheshe2

(83,787 posts)
4. We started the wave and it will continue.
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 11:59 PM
Nov 2017

Women where a huge voice in the outcome...not just as candidates but as advocates that spent their time tirelessly flipping votes and connecting to voters.

I am not sure the impact has been felt by some here. Not sure they understand the candidates that won are so diverse. This is an amazing win and telling for what Americans stand for. SOCIAL JUSTICE. Black, Hispanic, Sikh, Women, Transgender....she won against the man that wrote the 'bathroom bill'. Think about that for a moment, she won as a transgender in VA against the man that told her she had no right to use the ladies room.

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