Are we "in the early stages of the birth of a new Democratic Party"?

[mia]

https://newrepublic.com/article/144811/centrist-democrats-even-stand-for

What Do Centrist Democrats Even Stand For?

As Bernie Sanders and the progressive wing pull the party leftward, moderates are hoping to convince voters that they have big ideas, too.

Democrats across the ideological spectrum seem to agree that their party lacks a clear message in the Trump era—one that can appeal to working-class Americans of all races. House Democratic Caucus Chairman Joe Crowley, when pressed on the subject in July, hesitated before saying, “That message is being worked on. We’re doing everything we can to simplify it, but at the same time provide the meat behind it as well. So that’s coming together now.” The public apparently agrees: A poll that same month found that 37 percent of Americans believe the party stands for something, versus 52 percent who said it just stands against Trump. And the release in late July of A Better Deal, the Democrats’ new agenda, hasn’t quelled this concern....

For now, the disagreements between the Democratic Party’s left and centrist wings aren’t playing out in big, public ways (except, of course, online). Strategist Simon Rosenberg noted that Sanders faced no notable Democratic criticism for his single-payer rollout. He said the party is “in evolution” and less clearly divided into two obvious wings. “What I see is a party that’s leaving one era of what it means to be a Democrat,” he said. “I’m not sure that people know exactly what the best way to move forward is.” But Rosenberg argues that many of the party’s rising stars—senators Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, and Chris Murphy, Representative Seth Moulton, California Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom—defy easy categorization on the ideological spectrum. “I think this is going to be a period of experimentation,” he said, “in the early stages of the birth of a new Democratic Party.”

[lagomorph777]

1. Let's wrap up the experimentation and get some clear slogans out there

"We will stop the Republican robbers"
"Protect your Obamacare" (yes, that's a WINNER now)
"Make the rich start paying their fair share"
"Reality-based education for all"

[Hortensis]

18. :) Oh, our party platform contains FAR more and is FAR stronger.

This is just the table of contents:

RAISE INCOMES AND RESTORE ECONOMIC SECURITY FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS
Raising Workers’ Wages
Protecting Workers’ Fundamental Rights
Supporting Working Families
Helping More Workers Share in Near-Record Corporate Profits
Expanding Access to Affordable Housing and Homeownership
Protecting and Expanding Social Security
Ensuring a Secure and Dignified Retirement
Revitalizing Our Nation’s Postal Service

CREATE GOOD-PAYING JOBS
Building 21st Century Infrastructure
Fostering a Manufacturing Renaissance
Creating Good-Paying Clean Energy Jobs
Pursuing Our Innovation Agenda: Science, Research, Education, and Technology
Supporting America’s Small Businesses
Creating Jobs for America’s Young People

FIGHT FOR ECONOMIC FAIRNESS AND AGAINST INEQUALITY
Reining in Wall Street and Fixing our Financial System
Promoting Competition by Stopping Corporate Concentration
Making the Wealthy Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes
Promoting Trade That is Fair and Benefits American Workers

BRING AMERICANS TOGETHER AND REMOVE BARRIERS TO OPPORTUNITIES
Ending Systemic Racism
Closing the Racial Wealth Gap
Reforming our Criminal Justice System
Fixing our Broken Immigration System
Guaranteeing Civil Rights
Guaranteeing Women’s Rights
Guaranteeing Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Rights
Guaranteeing Rights for People with Disabilities
Respecting Faith and Service
Investing in Rural America
Ending Poverty and Investing in Communities Left Behind
Building Strong Cities and Metro Areas
Promoting Arts and Culture
Honoring Indigenous Tribal Nations
Fighting for the People of Puerto Rico
Honoring the People of the Territories

PROTECT VOTING RIGHTS, FIX OUR CAMPAIGN FINANCE SYSTEM, AND RESTORE OUR DEMOCRACY
Protecting Voting Rights
Fixing Our Broken Campaign Finance System
Appointing Judges
Securing Statehood for Washington, DC
Strengthening Management of Federal Government

COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE, BUILD A CLEAN ENERGY ECONOMY, AND SECURE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
Building a Clean Energy Economy
Securing Environmental and Climate Justice
Protecting Our Public Lands and Waters

PROVIDE QUALITY AND AFFORDABLE EDUCATION
Making Debt-Free College a Reality
Providing Relief from Crushing Student Debt
Supporting Historically Black Colleges and Universities and Minority-Serving Institutions
Cracking Down on Predatory For-Profit Schools
Guaranteeing Universal Preschool and Good Schools for Every Child

ENSURE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF ALL AMERICANS
Securing Universal Health Care
Supporting Community Health Centers
Reducing Prescription Drug Costs
Enabling Cutting-Edge Medical Research
Combating Drug and Alcohol Addiction
Treating Mental Health
Supporting Those Living with Autism and their Families
Securing Reproductive Health, Rights, and Justice
Ensuring Long-Term Care, Services, and Supports
Protecting and Promoting Public Health
Ending Violence Against Women
Preventing Gun Violence

PRINCIPLED LEADERSHIP SUPPORT OUR TROOPS AND KEEP FAITH WITH OUR VETERANS
Defense Spending
Veterans and Service Members
Military Families
A Strong Military

CONFRONT GLOBAL THREATS
Terrorism
Syria
Afghanistan
Iran
North Korea
Russia
Cybersecurity and Online Privacy
Non-Proliferation of Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological Weapons
Global Climate Leadership

PROTECT OUR VALUES
Women and Girls
Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender People
Trafficking and Modern Slavery
Young People
Religious Minorities
Refugees
Civil Society
Anti-Corruption
Torture
Closing Guantánamo Bay
Development Assistance
Global Health
HIV and AIDS
International Labor

A LEADER IN THE WORLD
Asia-Pacific
Middle East
Europe
Americas
Africa
Global Economy and Institutions

To mine for some good slogan material, the document:
https://www.democrats.org/party-platform#wall-street

[lagomorph777]

23. Wow, awesome work.

We will have to simplify and unify around a few basic themes, but this makes a perfect menu to choose from

[Hortensis]

24. And those are just the headers. Take a look inside.

[zipplewrath]

27. That's not a message

That's a laundry list of issues.
A message is something that succinctly expresses purpose and goals that individuals can relate to their own conditions.
A New Deal
Change You Can Believe In
Make America Great Again
Freedom and Justice
America First
Bridge to the 21st Century
It's the economy stupid.

It's something that if you walked up to 15 people in the street, they could both repeat, and correlate to their own condition. By the end of the 2016 election, the democratic party basically had "He's worse" and "More of the Same". Not for the lack of trying of course. But at the end of the day, that's what people remembered. That's what they heard.

A message is something that any candidate can use. It doesn't have to be quite as short as the above slogans, but it does have to be common, easily repeated, and immediately inspire people to see how it influences their own lives. Again, not for the lack of trying, but we didn't succeed with that part last time.

[Hortensis]

40. If you know what we stand for, you won't need a catchphrase.

Catchphrases at best help create soft support, people who won't bother to vote if it's raining a bit. I'll go out in a blizzard for my principles, have in fact. My husband and I had to pull each other up an ice-covered driveway to the polling place because the truck couldn't make it.

Stop listening to the right-wing lies on the boob tube and read our platform. If you don't finally, or once again, become proud to be a Democrat, you'll know you're in the wrong party. But my guess is you'll finally realize just how corrupting and destructive today's political media are.

[peggysue2]

54. Yes!

What we stand for--in detail--is in the platform. Anyone pretending they don't know what the Democratic Party stands for hasn't been paying attention and/or has a reading deficit.

We stand (proudly I might add) for all those things.

We Stand With and For All Americans.

[lagomorph777]

74. It's great for DUers to memorize the platform, but that does not in any way address the problem.

The Party needs a SIMPLE message that the general public will hear over and over, whether they have time to read an extended thesis or not (here's a hint: 99% of the public WILL NOT, no matter how much we think they should).

A compelling slogan, closely associated with maybe 3-4 SHORT bullets is what's needed here.

Yes, we (and especially our candidates, surrogates, and party leaders) should have a pretty clear understanding of the platform, and be ready to use that knowledge in debates and TV appearances.

But brevity not just nice-to-have; it's required for our survival as a party.

[lunasun]

34. Thank you it's already there!! 2016 Platform . When people try to say the party didn't / doesn't

have a message for the voters I try to post that. It was so common a thing a a while ago I had it on speed paste!!

[sagesnow]

38. Brilliant, timely reply.

Thank you Hortensis.

[Wwcd]

50. Thank you. Hard to believe people choose a Party without reading the platform

So thank you for educating readers as to WHO THE DEM PARTY IS.

Appreciated

[mia]

22. ...

"Corporations aren't people."
"Tariffs now.'
"A job is the best deal."
"Dignity for all."
"All work is important."

[murielm99]

2. I call bullshit.

We do not lack a clear message, and Democrats do not believe that.

Disagreements are playing out online because that is primarily where they are. It has been proven that much of that is being driven by bots and trolls.

Sanders is not a Democratic party spokesman. He needs to stop saying divisive things. He speaks only for himself, unless he joins the party.

Of course the new stars defy categorization. We are a big tent.

This article is a mess.

[mia]

3. We DO lack a clear message.

Do you speak for all Democrats? This is not all about Bernie. He's a good man, but he does not represent the Democratic Party, although he has some good ideas.

[murielm99]

6. Who said this is about Bernie?

I included him as one of several points I made.

[murielm99]

7. I made it clear that I do not speak for all Democrats

when I said we are a big tent.

[Cary]

29. FWIW, I did not see you claiming to "speak for all Democrats"

Vote Democratic!

Of course I know you do vote Democratic. That's my slogan. Can't get a more simple and more direct message than that, right?

[Hortensis]

19. Here's our message. Couldn't be clearer.

As for jettisoning our platform to please a delusional little rule-or-ruin faction, 70 million Democrats already said a huge no to that. Just as Virginia's Democrats decided they weren't giving up the Medicaid expansion for half a million Virginians, and yes, sanctuary cities, to please these spoilers.

This is just the table of contents:

RAISE INCOMES AND RESTORE ECONOMIC SECURITY FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS
Raising Workers’ Wages
Protecting Workers’ Fundamental Rights
Supporting Working Families
Helping More Workers Share in Near-Record Corporate Profits
Expanding Access to Affordable Housing and Homeownership
Protecting and Expanding Social Security
Ensuring a Secure and Dignified Retirement
Revitalizing Our Nation’s Postal Service

CREATE GOOD-PAYING JOBS
Building 21st Century Infrastructure
Fostering a Manufacturing Renaissance
Creating Good-Paying Clean Energy Jobs
Pursuing Our Innovation Agenda: Science, Research, Education, and Technology
Supporting America’s Small Businesses
Creating Jobs for America’s Young People

FIGHT FOR ECONOMIC FAIRNESS AND AGAINST INEQUALITY
Reining in Wall Street and Fixing our Financial System
Promoting Competition by Stopping Corporate Concentration
Making the Wealthy Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes
Promoting Trade That is Fair and Benefits American Workers

BRING AMERICANS TOGETHER AND REMOVE BARRIERS TO OPPORTUNITIES
Ending Systemic Racism
Closing the Racial Wealth Gap
Reforming our Criminal Justice System
Fixing our Broken Immigration System
Guaranteeing Civil Rights
Guaranteeing Women’s Rights
Guaranteeing Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Rights
Guaranteeing Rights for People with Disabilities
Respecting Faith and Service
Investing in Rural America
Ending Poverty and Investing in Communities Left Behind
Building Strong Cities and Metro Areas
Promoting Arts and Culture
Honoring Indigenous Tribal Nations
Fighting for the People of Puerto Rico
Honoring the People of the Territories

PROTECT VOTING RIGHTS, FIX OUR CAMPAIGN FINANCE SYSTEM, AND RESTORE OUR DEMOCRACY
Protecting Voting Rights
Fixing Our Broken Campaign Finance System
Appointing Judges
Securing Statehood for Washington, DC
Strengthening Management of Federal Government

COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE, BUILD A CLEAN ENERGY ECONOMY, AND SECURE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
Building a Clean Energy Economy
Securing Environmental and Climate Justice
Protecting Our Public Lands and Waters

PROVIDE QUALITY AND AFFORDABLE EDUCATION
Making Debt-Free College a Reality
Providing Relief from Crushing Student Debt
Supporting Historically Black Colleges and Universities and Minority-Serving Institutions
Cracking Down on Predatory For-Profit Schools
Guaranteeing Universal Preschool and Good Schools for Every Child

ENSURE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF ALL AMERICANS
Securing Universal Health Care
Supporting Community Health Centers
Reducing Prescription Drug Costs
Enabling Cutting-Edge Medical Research
Combating Drug and Alcohol Addiction
Treating Mental Health
Supporting Those Living with Autism and their Families
Securing Reproductive Health, Rights, and Justice
Ensuring Long-Term Care, Services, and Supports
Protecting and Promoting Public Health
Ending Violence Against Women
Preventing Gun Violence

PRINCIPLED LEADERSHIP SUPPORT OUR TROOPS AND KEEP FAITH WITH OUR VETERANS
Defense Spending
Veterans and Service Members
Military Families
A Strong Military

CONFRONT GLOBAL THREATS
Terrorism
Syria
Afghanistan
Iran
North Korea
Russia
Cybersecurity and Online Privacy
Non-Proliferation of Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological Weapons
Global Climate Leadership

PROTECT OUR VALUES
Women and Girls
Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender People
Trafficking and Modern Slavery
Young People
Religious Minorities
Refugees
Civil Society
Anti-Corruption
Torture
Closing Guantánamo Bay
Development Assistance
Global Health
HIV and AIDS
International Labor

A LEADER IN THE WORLD
Asia-Pacific
Middle East
Europe
Americas
Africa
Global Economy and Institutions

To mine for some good slogan material, the document:
https://www.democrats.org/party-platform#wall-street

[mia]

33. Thank you!

Democrats need to do a better job of putting it out there.

Would like to see more that addresses the negative influence of corporations and political payoffs.

[murielm99]

60. Hortensis, you did not have to

do this for the people in this thread. They should be capable of doing their own research.

But thank you.

[BainsBane]

31. The author of your article made it about Bernie

He defines left in terms of support for Bernie and "centrist" as those who fail to do so.

[Hortensis]

36. Mia, 70 million Democrats KNOW what we stand for

just fine and like it. We think it's all extremely important and are not about to abandon it.

You, otoh, seemingly DON'T know?
The Kochtopus kleptocrats know and don't like it.
Putin and his kleptocrats know and don't like it.
Republican voters don't know but don't like it anyway.
DFA-type malcontents know but want to destroy because it's the Democrats.

Sure this is the company you should be keeping? You should brush up on at least those parts of our platform that are closest to your heart.

Btw, DFW's treachery in Virginia was on full view and is doing the rule-or-ruin types no good at all.
They claim a membership of 1 million. Very doubtful after their betrayal in the general, and the reminder just now in Virginia, but even at that they'd be 1 in 70.

Maybe muse on that next time you read the if-it-bleeds-it-leads stories created by dishonest journalists to pump up controversy where none exists. Or none worth getting excited about anyway. It's called "yellow journalism."

[mia]

46. Perhaps I don't know enough. I'm a Democrat to the core, and will vote accordingly.

The sentiments behind your response are an example of what drives new Democrats away.

[Hortensis]

48. You don't get it. No one drives principled people away.

The kind who might vote, but not if it's raining, or go vote for a different candidate out of spite are not. What we need to do is hold to our standards and shout our principles.

[mia]

51. Do you?

Some people are just learning about what it takes to participate in the democratic process. Some people aren't as principled or as astute as you are. Maybe they aren't fully developed. Potential votes come from many realms.

[Hortensis]

55. I'm sorry. I read one of your messages and not the others,

and mistook you for those pretending their criticism isn't from unhappiness at the Democratic sweep but from "concern" for the need of the party to improve itself, to finally develop some principles and become less corrupt.

The ones who hoped for the defeat of a Democratic candidate for governor who will probably be able to finally bring healthcare coverage to a half million Virginians.

Mixing you up with those was quite an insult. I apologize again.

[mia]

63. Thank you, Hortensis, for taking the time to read my other messages.

I wish you well and won't forget your name. It feels good to be understood. Thank you again.

[Hortensis]

64. I hate that I did that. I'll remember yours also.

[Demsrule86]

68. No we don't. We have a message ...just some want a different one for some unknown reason.

[NurseJackie]

4. Thank you!

I adore you!

[aikoaiko]

5. Some Democrats do believe we have an unclear message.

[murielm99]

9. Then they need to go educate themselves.

The platform is out there for anyone who cares to look at it. Did you bother to read Hillary's pages when she was our nominee?

[mia]

12. Perhaps Hillary's platform wasn't clearly articulated or was misconstrued by the opposition.

Nevertheless, are you saying that the Democratic Platform should remain exactly the same? I know that I'm responding to a message that wasn't addressed to me.

[murielm99]

58. Have you actually read anything that was on her website?

[Demsrule86]

69. There is as Democratic platform...and Hillary was a wonk...she wrote it all down and

articulated it very well...just all the divisiveness in the party, the Russians, Comey and the GOP Hillary hate had an effect. I suggest you listen to Northam's victory speech. He articulated the message very well...and the message will emphasize different things in different areas...there should never be a one size fits all approach to elections.

[aikoaiko]

20. Sure. I'm not here to say what was good, bad, inconsistent about HRC. That's the past.

You're not saying our current party's message is candidate Clinton's 2016 policy statements, are you?

[FSogol]

10. +1 n/t

[Cosmocat]

14. OK - what is the clear message?

nm

[murielm99]

59. Google is your friend.

Go educate yourself.

[Cosmocat]

61. Your concession is noted

nm

[shanny]

25. This lifelong Democrat believes we DO lack a clear message

other than "we hate Trump" and "we're not those guys." The changes and the result we saw yesterday in VA regarding new candidates, contesting every seat, a muscular enthusiasm for taking the fight to the right--all of those are great news. IMO the Party doesn't "need to change," it is already changing. I for one welcome it.

[Cary]

32. We have an expression amongst us trial lawyers...

When you're explaining, you're losing.

We have lots and lots of drama here at DU. Sometimes it's even quite deep and quite clever. But it's all "explaining." It's fine amongst us.

How the average person votes just isn't all that clever or all that deep. In fact the average person doesn't vote so there is nothing clever or deep about that.

Vote. Get our fellow Democrats out to vote. If we do that we win. Close book, end of story.

[tonyt53]

52. It really is THAT simple. Vote and we win.

[Demsrule86]

70. I don't agree....sound like a strange concern after yesterday.

[LexVegas]

8. Sweet fucking Jesus.

[BainsBane]

35. The victory last night

does not appear to be well-received by all.

[Cary]

39. Both sides do it?

"...the Federal Government needs to shrink?"

Dude, you're at DU.

[George II]

13. No clear message? Did you ever read this?

https://www.democrats.org/party-platform

The reason there seems among some that the Democrats lack a "clear message" is that some don't want to accept the clear message that the Democrats have.

Of course, Democrats in different parts of the country have different issues, so their localized clear message is slightly different, but for the most part those different issues are still in line with the overall clear message of the Democratic Party.

[Cosmocat]

15. Which is?

[SandyZ]

16. You can lead the horse to water. You can not make him drink.

One can give people the clear message, the most progressive message. Clear policies plans explaining step by step how to accomplish the goal.

But, Clinton or none of our other Dems can make someone read it.

[mia]

17. Agree, but some of the horses were so thirsty that they missed the message drank the kool-aid.

Democrats need to do a better job of refining and articulating a platform that addresses the needs of everyone who is being exploited by Republican policies.

[SandyZ]

21. From my point of view it is very simple, very clear. I do not understand the people that argue

otherwise. I do not know how much more clear and succinct one can be than laying the policy out, in print, for others to read and educate themselves.

[Garrett78]

26. I think the message can be as succinct as follows:

We stand for fairness, justice, compassion and sustainability.

[Paladin]

28. I'll take the Democratic Party that kicked ass in Virginia last night.

But thanks for asking.

[Demsrule86]

71. Me too...I don't understand this...it seems as if some are disappointed that Democrats won yesterday

[BainsBane]

30. More empty labels

as a way to say absolutely nothing. Throwing around labels isn't "standing for something." It's advertising that one has nothing of substance to say. But if serves the purpose of sowing division, and that is what counts. That the author of the article defines political ideology in terms of support for one politician is ironic to say the least.

I'll tell you what "the party lacks a clear message" means: the party refuses to make itself about white male privilege, and the issues and people it represents are nothing. Those "nothing" people won significant victories last night. A transgender woman defeated the author of the discriminatory bathroom bill. The first latinas were elected to the VA state legislature, and it was voters of color who made those victories possible. They don't believe their lives, their rights, and their interests are "nothing." Those are the "wedge issue," "identity politics" Americans we have been told are "centrist" and must be abandoned in order to promote the increased wealth of those who already earn more than 99.7% of the planet, which is what a household income of $100k a year is.

And because the party experienced some truly historic victories last night, we see this resurrection of an article from months ago. It certainly is telling.

It seems to me that people who claim the party stands for nothing ought to look in the mirror, because when an entire political discussion begins and ends with labels, that is nothing.

And Maine passed a Medicaid expansion resolution, which is of course utterly inconsequential because it isn't about Bernie Sanders. If people actually gave a shit about Medicare-for-all, they would be celebrating that win rather than reacting to Democratic victories by lashing out. Northam ran on a $15 minimum wage, once a litmus test and now "nothing." I submit it is not the people you and the author malign as "centrist" who stand for nothing.

[mia]

43. Where does it say that "the party stands for nothing"?

Who is claiming this? Why do we keep invoking the "white male" mantra? It only makes them feel more feared and powerful. That's what they like. Who's not celebrating Democratic wins? This is just a conversation about how we can keep on winning.

[BainsBane]

56. "What Do Centrist Democrats Even Stand For?"

It's in the title. Then there is this. "Democrats across the ideological spectrum seem to agree that their party lacks a clear message in the Trump era." The very phrase that "Democrats need to stand for something" is ubiquitous. You know it is too.

It isn't a conversation about winning. It isn't a conversation at all. It's hurling insults. There is absolutely no substance in your post. The entire point is the proclamation that so-called "centrists" stand for nothing. That is your response to the electoral victories last night.

I reject the definition of left advanced by self-identified "progressives." I see most of it as about narrow race and class interests rather than equality. In fact, we even see arguments that civil rights and reproductive rights need to be rolled back in order to "win." The effect that has on poverty is disregarded. The proclamation that their interests are supposedly universal, while deliberately ignoring or even arguing against the concerns, rights, and votes of the majority worsens, not lessens inequality.

[mia]

66. Are you saying that "progressives" tend to overlook some rights & concerns associated with poverty?

If you are, then I agree. Thank you for your response, anyway.

[bluecollar2]

37. God I hope so....

Yesterday's results were heartening but we have a long way to go.

[Eko]

41. Its interesting to me

that post 18 is not a clear message but a couple of words like "A New Deal" is. How is a couple of words a clear message where a well thought out extremely detailed position is not? Its a shame that the world has come down to this.

[Madam45for2923]

42. Dems have made, are making & will continue to make our own narrative, thank you very much!

[NCTraveler]

45. You mean you won't take talking points from the New Republic?

A place where their main goal it to pit Democrats against Democrats. A place that was all gloom and doom about Virginia and were preemptively telling everyone what needs to happen after we lose. Now they are telling everyone we have to do the exact same thing they stated we had to do after a loss even though we won. Talk about dishonest opinion pieces.

[Madam45for2923]

47. Yep, I took their message down and will call them on February 30th of next year!

[NCTraveler]

44. New Republic is full of ratfuckers.

I have seen some really shitty stuff from them lately. Pitting the "left" against Democrats on a regular basis. It's what they do. It's directed at LIV's.

This author is passionate about getting us to fight.

The Win-or-Lose Case for Challenging Dianne Feinstein

Ralph Northam Is Taking on Betsy DeVos—by Breaking With Barack Obama(He can't even just take on DeVos. It has to be at the opposition of Obama. A non-office holder)

The Impeachment Litmus Test Is Dividing Democrats

Biden Wants “Compromise.” Progressives Don’t Want to Hear It.

The Democrats Are Taking Black Women for Granted

What Do Centrist Democrats Even Stand For?

Massachusetts Is Ground Zero in the Battle for the Soul of the Democratic Party

All from the same author. Bro's are such easy marks.

[Wwcd]

49. Oh Lord. The article from sept 2017 reads like a Sanders promo.

Has the great socialist weighed in on the well organized Democratic Party & DNC who along with campaign fundraisers of great influence as well as local & State & gotv & bringing the great people of this country together to soundly defeat the Trumpublicanism of the Right?

Such a momentuous undertaking with remarkable success and all you drop is more of the same old mantra, the wishful business of those who are STILL hanging their hat on the dream of breaking the Dem Party & its strong members & supporters.

Wtf is the point.
Have we heard anything from Sanders (I bring his name in here because of the article in your post.)

It was the efforts of the Dem Party & the DNC's organizing , that funded, and opened the door to support all state & local efforts to bring some unbelievable Blue wins last night.

Yet Not a peep from the Independent socialist side today and here it begins again, the motto that if you tell people something is broken enough times, well then it MUST be broken!

Sanders & those who want to isolate themselves from the Party that has the power to move mountains, the Party that has always gathered, stood firm & recognized that basic core value of what the Democratic Party was built on & that remains still today, is "Human Rights" above all else, may do so but stand on the side alone or stand with the party that we saw last night.

"The birth of a new Democratic Party"??
Why do we need a new Democratic Party?
Did someone repeat that statement enough times that "it must be true? (gasp)

The "New" Democratic Party you think you're seeing today is exactly the same as the old Democratic Party. The mission statement is still the same.

As much as some would wish for a breaking of the D Party & remaking it in someone elses image, it won't happen.
The Democratic Party has always stood for the rights of all people.
Someone on a mission to break it will find themselves on the side with little power to change anything.

After what we saw with last night's election, the Democratic Party is just as organized, unified & strong enough to affect change for the good of our country.
The old mantra that the Democratic Party is broken, is redundant & overused.

We proved that last night and it came about because of all the work put into an amazing & successful campaign.

It is, perhaps the Republican Party of Trump that is broken & in need of replacing. The Democratic Party is solid, sound & doing absolutely fine.

Thank you

[mia]

53. You're welcome.

Democrats can win even when they seem to be opposed to the ideals of some factions within the Democratic Party.

[Squinch]

57. What a crappy, divisive article. Full of bullshit. Why would anyone post it, unless the

landslide last night made them frightened?

[JI7]

62. This is from almost 2 months ago

[SharonClark]

65. The author, Graham Vyse, has written one divisive article after another.

The Democratic Party. And DUers don"t need to respond to crap articles like that.

[Demsrule86]

67. No...same big tent party always... we just have to pull together after a primary.