Class bigotry is toxic no matter how much you think you're fighting racism by espousing it.

[YoungDemCA]

And lower-to-middle-income, working class white men and women are still a large chunk of reliable voters - especially in many of the states that actually matter in deciding the Electoral College.

I'd strongly advise against giving Trump and his base more ammunition on this and other fronts.

[SandyZ]

1. The Democratic Party has always stood with poor and middle class.

More important, I think we need to quit feeding the propaganda suggesting otherwise and instead, repeatedly challenge this misnomer at every opportunity.

[dalton99a]

3. I haven't seen any posts against poor people on DU

[YoungDemCA]

4. Then you're not paying attention.

[moriah]

26. Apparently I'm not either. Could you link to an example, please? Nt

[RhodeIslandOne]

8. Apparently posting an article....

....where Trump people call NFL players the n-word and claim Obama slept till noon and golfed all day is class shaming.

[HughBeaumont]

13. Yeah, I don't get that at all.

Racists and sexists are what they are. Class has nothing to do with it. Lots of rich and middle class people voted for Schtroumpf for the same reasons.

I'm paraphrasing a meme when I say -

Hey, look, I get it. It's difficult for Trump voters to admit white privilege is real when they've amounted to very little despite it.

[cwydro]

22. What about the AA voters who voted for the Stain?

There’s more than a few. I’ve seen them interviewed, and sadly, I even know such a man. He’s college educated, reasonable, but he voted for the Stain. We’ve agreed not to discuss it.

I know at least two gay women who voted for him too. One not so bright, admittedly, but the other I considered intelligent.

[HughBeaumont]

23. From Inauguration Day . . ..

I beg to differ, ladies.

[cwydro]

25. Gah!

I’m a gay woman, and when a fairly new acquaintance (whom I liked a lot) suddenly told me she was going to vote for the Shitstain - I was unable to even speak. I was astounded.

I hate to say it, but I just stopped replying to her texts etc. after that. I should have said something, but I knew there was no arguing with stupid lol. Such a shame.

[JI7]

36. fuck them too. Nobody claims they are good people. That's the difference

People don't make excuses for them. Especially not their own community. They are seen as a joke.

[whathehell]

37. 33% of Hispanic Men voted Trump plus Eight million Obama Voters

It clearly was NOT a one issue election.

[MountCleaners]

18. The dude was a HS teacher anyway...

...not exactly a downtrodden coal miner. The media always do this - claim they're going to interview the "working class"...then they talk to people who aren't doing so poorly. One assumes the guy in question went to college - clearly it didn't help him.

[brush]

29. Yep...I think he/she means we should keep trying for the "white working class vote...those...

very people that have been voting for repugs for decades now and still support trump.

[murielm99]

5. Reliable voters for republicans, that is.

They have been taught to hate Democrats, unions, brown people. They have been taught that women do not deserve rights.

If they want to come around to vote for Democrats, they will. But we will not change our platform to accommodate the bigotry they have learned.

[YoungDemCA]

6. You don't know what you're talking about. Plenty of these people vote/voted Dem, until very recently

Hmm....

[murielm99]

7. Prove it.

Are you here to discuss or disrupt?

[murielm99]

10. This is a forum for Democrats.

If you think that makes in an echo chamber, you are in the wrong place.

Fox News. Breitbart. Charlottesville. Unnecessary shootings of black men. Mercers. Koch. MSM bias and consolidation. Vilification of unions. Neonazis. Voter suppression and gerrymandering. Look at all the things we have to work against. This is only a partial list. These things have been used to turn some working class and rural people against Democrats. But I am not willing to pander to them to get their votes. They have the same chance to learn about politics as anyone else.

[brush]

30. THIS!

[murielm99]

33. If you are a young Dem,

you should know that it has not been that recently. Things have been changing since Reagan. We have needed to get them back since about the time my children were born. They are all in their thirties.

[Fresh_Start]

42. White vote was lost in the 1960s when the Democrats legislated the Civil Rights Acts

there's another post somewhere which shows that....

Its really not about class, its about bigotry.

[GusBob]

11. You are upset about the "the poor white Trump voters" post right?

Perhaps you should address the comments in that post?

The people in that article are full blown racists, it's obvious.

They are poor for the same reason they are racist: ignorance

[Coventina]

12. How dare you point that out, you elitist, you!

[HughBeaumont]

14. Even worse is that deep down, they KNEW he was just talking bullshit when it came to steel and coal.

. . . but they love him anyway.

Like it was said - this is the "At least Trump is White" crowd.

[whathehell]

38. The Eight Million Obama Voters & Thirteen percent of AA men who voted Trump

and the 33% of Hispanic Men -- Would they be part of the

"At least he's white" crowd too?

[HughBeaumont]

44. I was referring to the people in the article, who specifically reveal their racism at the end.

I really can't explain why the hell ANYone of ANY race, orientation, gender, whatever, thought this was a great idea.

There really was NO GOOD REASON to vote for him at all. There's no justification for it.

[haele]

24. They're nihlists more than anything. Class bigotry goes both ways.

Racism is just a handy excuse - especially since many of them have voted for minorities and women in the past.
They're powerless and angry and want to burn the whole thing down - they know the future has left them behind, and there's no going back to the golden days of smaller communities where everyone knew their neighbors and jobs were easy to get if you wanted to work.
They used to turn the other cheek, mind their own business, and got by. Now, with no place to hide, their attitude is F*** the rest of the world, and especially f***all those people with more luck, ambition and/or more talent than them and their neighbors that are doing well. Does no good to tell them those "other people" who have been shit on for centuries have learned how to deal, and they should stand in line next to them. These people don't want to hear about the social privileges above "those others" they didn't know they and their grandparents had, just due to the color of their skin and family relations. They're just angry that they can't continue to live the way they had been, that faceless corporations and lobbyists they can't touch have taken their birthright away from them, and they want to burn it all to the ground and start over.

So they decide to get on the team that's following the guy with the flamethrower. No matter how stupid or venal he is, of if he's a liar, cheat, or psychopathic mobster, he's taking on "the establishment" that stole their future from them.

Haele

[lagomorph777]

15. OK, segregating "white working class" from "working class" IS racism

Either we support ALL working class people, or we are Republicans and we lose.

Which are you?

[el_bryanto]

16. Well what principals do you suggest we set aside to court those voters?

Where should we compromise?

Bryant

[uponit7771]

17. Red Don is rich and he's racist so I don't know why class bigotry is an issue here

[Blue_Tires]

20. Fuck 'em...

I'm not going to kiss ass and play nice with folks who would just as soon shoot me "out of fear for their lives" than look at me, because they're still voting GOP at the end of the day regardless...

[VermontKevin]

21. Sorry, but trash is trash, regardless of money or color.

[moriah]

27. I'll remember your concern, Young Dem. Nt

[guillaumeb]

28. Recommended. So called free trade agreements are only one issue.

As is a general lack of support for unions and a lack of appreciation of what unions meant to the working class in this country.

Both are components of class bigotry, or an indifference to what class really is.


Many Americans like to pretend that this is a classless society when it is, in fact, a very class stratified society. And that class stratification is part of the reason that working class people are angry.

[moriah]

31. And you're describing Republicans, not Democrats. Nt

[guillaumeb]

34. I am describing voters who have actually voted for both parties.

Including Obama voters of 2008 and 2012.

[moriah]

40. Well, then you aren't describing me, because I've only voted for one party.

The party that supports unions rather than wants to destroy them. The one that doesn't look down on people who have to utilize safety nets.

If any party is guilty of class bigotry, it's Republicans. Well, Libertarians even moreso, but they take their economic policy straight from the Republican playbook so it's not a surprise.

[guillaumeb]

41. Perhaps class bigotry is too broad a term.

I have never voted for a GOP candidate for anything, but I know plenty of workers who have. I feel that the Democrats sometimes take working class votes for granted.

Rahm Emmanuel once said, in response to his Wall Street brand of politics, that working class voters will vote Democratic because they have nowhere else to go. Some prophet he was.

[JI7]

32. Working class whites that say the economy is their concern voted for Hillary

The others voted for bigotry.

If they voted fort trump no matter what their economic background they voted for bigotry.

[Squinch]

35. .

[pnwmom]

39. Why do you specify "working class WHITE men and women"?

Why didn't you say working class men and women, or working class people?

Why try to divide this group by race?

Do you think working class white people are being discriminated against because of their race? Otherwise, why mention race in a discussion of "class bigotry"?

[billh58]

43. Right-wing stupid and hate

is not restricted to just white racists, it affects many segments of our society, and is mainly an anti-government mindset. I believe Trump's lie to not be a part of the government establishment (drain the swamp) is what appealed to many gullible voters from across all demographics.

He is, of course, doing just the opposite by using the office of the POTUS to promote unspeakable pain and misery on Americans and millions of people from other countries around the world.