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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/11/07/politics/northam-trump-virginia/index.htmlDonald Trump was the big loser in Virginia
Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
Updated 9:25 PM EST, Tue November 07, 2017
So, why? Why did a race that most polling suggested was tightening -- in Gillespie's favor -- wind up not being all that close? The obvious -- and right -- answer is Trump.
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Trump, of course, distanced himself from the loss almost immediately. He tweeted just after 8:40 p.m. ET:
"Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for. Don't forget, Republicans won 4 out of 4 House seats, and with the economy doing record numbers, we will continue to win, even bigger than before!"
And, there will be a segment of Republicans who believe it because, well, they believe anything and everything Trump says. But that won't make it true.
But, the simple fact when you look at turnout patterns in places like Chesterfield and Loudoun, is that the lots of Virginia voters -- including some decent chunk of establishment GOPers -- jumped at the chance to send Trump a very clear message that they didn't like what he was selling. They didn't like it at all.
That is a message that Republicans in targeted districts and states will get loud and clear from Tuesday's vote in Virginia. The problem they will face is this: Trump and Trumpism is clearly a problem with general electorates but the President remains an extremely popular figure within the most conservative elements of the GOP, who tend to decide primary nominations. (Remember that Gillespie almost loss his primary against a little regarded GOP opponent who ran as a Trump clone.)
That conundrum is going to be hugely problematic for Republicans as they try to navigate between primaries over the next 10 months and the 2018 general election. To win the GOP nomination, you have to hew as closely to Trump as possible. But, once you win, that close connection -- or even a not-so-close connection -- can doom you among swing voters.
Square peg. Round circle.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Same two bit reporting as last October. Same Reporters,same script,same lame ass remarks,same old same old.
Wounded Bear
(58,715 posts)Legends303
(481 posts)that were republicans anyway and he counts that as a big win. Lord help us.
Yonnie3
(17,486 posts)They pandered to the racists, the white supremacists, the robber barons, the nationalists and the religious extremists. There is no way they can keep them all on board and keep winning. They have made their bed and will have to sleep in it. Problematic indeed!
babylonsister
(171,092 posts)who are rabid rethugs, both retired military. What category do they fall into, I wonder?
Yonnie3
(17,486 posts)These categories are not the whole of the Republican party. These are the extremists that that the repubs pandered to in order to win. These are the types that I think they are really going to regret embracing.
I know some republicans who are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. They understand that compromise is essential in politics. They are aghast at tRump. They fit none of these categories.
What do you think?
MFM008
(19,820 posts)sees on 11/6/2018 how much we hate him.
Were coming for you.............if Mueller doesnt get you first.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Beacool
(30,253 posts)Despite the pouring rain and cold, I went and voted. I wanted to make sure that Murphy and Ravi won.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)tclambert
(11,087 posts)by ruining election chances for Republicans.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)to the polls so they can kick repuke assholes out of office. Thank you Fat Donnie.
calimary
(81,500 posts)I heard the comment on TV tonight that Virginia Dems figured out how to "weaponize the resistance."
Really? GOD I hope so!!! Now, let it SPREAD from coast-to-coast!
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)a party is in serious trouble. And whenever they win, we're all in serious trouble.
OnDoutside
(19,972 posts)tainted by what he stood for in those last 2 weeks.
SpankMe
(2,966 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Sucks to be them, and deservedly so.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)repukes have FUCKED themselves