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Was the Colorado Theater Mass Murder a hate Crime? (Original Post) formercia Jul 2012 OP
Rush Limbaugh has blood on his hands. (nt) NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #1
this kind of speculation perfectly mirrors that going on on the right, cali Jul 2012 #2
Neither should we be apologists. formercia Jul 2012 #14
of for the sake of reason. What the dickens does my comment have to do cali Jul 2012 #16
I could have just said 'Hate Media.' formercia Jul 2012 #25
+1 nt hifiguy Jul 2012 #20
Let's tread lightly as nothing is known except the shooter was a 24 year old male and... hlthe2b Jul 2012 #3
ABC News says they believe the shooter was a Tea Party member. n/t Ian David Jul 2012 #6
Idiot ABC has retracted that. cali Jul 2012 #17
Agree. We shouldn't 'tread' at all ... earthside Jul 2012 #7
I will say this get the red out Jul 2012 #4
Amen. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #5
nevermind johnnie Jul 2012 #8
Same name, same city. Amonester Jul 2012 #11
It's one of those "Fisher King" situations, and Rush is the DJ. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #9
Unless he did it out of love and was a religous type snooper2 Jul 2012 #10
Most generally, shooting at somebody is not considered an "act of love." davsand Jul 2012 #12
Probably not a hate crime- Marrah_G Jul 2012 #13
"Nothing to see here." formercia Jul 2012 #15
Perhaps, in a year or two, we'll have an entire generation Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #23
The mother in San Diego immediately knew it was her son flamingdem Jul 2012 #18
Idle speculation pschoeb Jul 2012 #27
No. She said it was her gut instinct it was him nt flamingdem Jul 2012 #30
We don't know shit from shinola about anything yet. hifiguy Jul 2012 #19
It's way too early to know Generic Brad Jul 2012 #21
No one knows, and speculation can quickly become "fact". I'd wait. nolabear Jul 2012 #22
All I'm doing is asking a question. formercia Jul 2012 #26
I didn't say that. I'm encouraging caution. It's not about you. nolabear Jul 2012 #28
My guess is that this young man either has a serious mental illness or amandabeech Jul 2012 #24
We don't know yet. backscatter712 Jul 2012 #29
Hmmm... formercia Aug 2012 #31
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. this kind of speculation perfectly mirrors that going on on the right,
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 09:52 AM
Jul 2012

Inquiring minds on that side want to know if it was someone tied to the left because of Nolan's negative portrayal of an Occupy type movement.

enjoy the company.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
16. of for the sake of reason. What the dickens does my comment have to do
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 11:48 AM
Jul 2012

with being an apologist or playing nice. Try nothing, genius.

damn. I hate teh stupid.

formercia

(18,479 posts)
25. I could have just said 'Hate Media.'
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:09 PM
Jul 2012

Would that have made it palatable?


Perfection breeds procrastination, which breeds failure.

Stop trying to be perfect.


No time for procrastination....failure awaits you.

hlthe2b

(102,311 posts)
3. Let's tread lightly as nothing is known except the shooter was a 24 year old male and...
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 09:53 AM
Jul 2012

for unknown reasons, his mother indicated no surprise and confirmed that her son was "the one".

It is hard not to speculate, but if wrong, it just makes all of us look as bad as those on the "right"...

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
10. Unless he did it out of love and was a religous type
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 10:23 AM
Jul 2012

that wanted to send a bunch of folks to heaven...


I guess that would be the only other option

davsand

(13,421 posts)
12. Most generally, shooting at somebody is not considered an "act of love."
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 10:32 AM
Jul 2012

I'd take it kinda personal if it was my ass anybody was trying to kill...






Laura

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
13. Probably not a hate crime-
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 10:34 AM
Jul 2012

There was no one group of targets.

We will have to wait to find out the persons motives.

formercia

(18,479 posts)
15. "Nothing to see here."
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jul 2012

While we're here 'Trying to play nice', the Reich-Wankers are setting the agenda and sorting talking points.

How long is it going to take for you to wake up?

Not much time left.

Baitball Blogger

(46,749 posts)
23. Perhaps, in a year or two, we'll have an entire generation
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 11:58 AM
Jul 2012

come up who will have no memory of how long and hard we had to fight back to get to where we are today.

So, now is the time to drum the lessons in to avoid sliding back.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
18. The mother in San Diego immediately knew it was her son
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 11:50 AM
Jul 2012

who went to school in San Diego. So it looks like he has had a disorder for a while.

pschoeb

(1,066 posts)
27. Idle speculation
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:18 PM
Jul 2012

Her statement was just that the person identified was her son, the journalists who called had his address from the police, as this was well after they had raided his apartment, the parents own his apartment, so the journalists probably did a routine check on who owns the apartment to get more info and realized it was his parents.

So it is not surprising that she said that is him, as they had at least his name and his address.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
19. We don't know shit from shinola about anything yet.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 11:51 AM
Jul 2012

At least this lunatic was arrested. The headshrinkers will probably be able to figure out what made this guy tick. Let's leave the speculation to the Malkins of the world for now and wait for facts to emerge. Speculation is untoward.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
21. It's way too early to know
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 11:54 AM
Jul 2012

Until there are facts, it is best to withhold judgement or make pronouncements. The truth will eventually come out.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
22. No one knows, and speculation can quickly become "fact". I'd wait.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 11:55 AM
Jul 2012

We do not know. We should not act as if we do.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
28. I didn't say that. I'm encouraging caution. It's not about you.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:21 PM
Jul 2012

If you have a problem with my advising a wait and see attitude so be it.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
24. My guess is that this young man either has a serious mental illness or
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:02 PM
Jul 2012

he was on some serious drugs.

Last month he withdrew from the U-Colorado graduate school in neurosciences and in another thread, it was reported that the local news media may have known him because he was constantly calling up to report threats.

That really doesn't sound like someone with all his marbles.



On Edit: not in med school, but grad school in neurosciences

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
29. We don't know yet.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:23 PM
Jul 2012

My gut of truthiness says this was a case of an unstable person gone postal - probably because he got kicked out of med school.

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