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NRaleighLiberal

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Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:03 PM Nov 2017

TPM - Josh's take "The DNC/HFA Agreement & Donna Braziles Growing Pile of Nonsense"

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-dnchfa-agreement-donna-braziles-growing-pile-of-nonsense

By JOSH MARSHALL Published NOVEMBER 4, 2017 4:26 PM
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Last night NBC published the DNC/Clinton campaign memo that Donna Brazile was apparently referring to. It’s not actually the Joint Fundraising Agreement. It’s a side agreement. But that’s just a semantic distinction. Here’s my take on where this new revelation leaves the story.

Reviewing the document, I think it’s a fair read the the Clinton campaign wanted control over things during the general election. That’s fair and normal. But they also wanted control over the building of the what they expected to inherit for the general election once Clinton became the nominee. That’s not unreasonable in itself. But that also meant having a veto power over things that were happening during the primaries, particularly hiring of key staff. So while the document says explicitly that these agreements apply exclusively to the general election, the Clinton campaign was also getting veto rights over organizational decisions during the primaries, even if they weren’t about the primaries.

There are also lines in the agreement about the campaign’s rights to review emails that went out about any primary candidate. That might create more control. But it’s not clear to me what that amounted to in practice. Those parts aren’t entirely clear to me.

The upshot is that this is significantly different from what Donna Brazile claimed in the book excerpt published in Politico. But it also includes levels of control pre-general election that would have have as a surprise to many. It’s a surprise to me. As I wrote in yesterday’s post, there’s nothing here that remotely qualifies as “rigging” the election. That is inflammatory talk and frankly a smear. Just why Brazile went that route I do not know and don’t care to speculate. But she did everyone involved a grave disservice by being willfully misleading, deeply self-serving and inflaming already existing divisions in the party that will be hard to repair as it is.

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It is a genuine shame that someone like Donna Brazile, who has worked so hard and so consistently in Democratic politics for decades, has now chosen to make it all about herself.
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TPM - Josh's take "The DNC/HFA Agreement & Donna Braziles Growing Pile of Nonsense" (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Nov 2017 OP
Never forget - she picked Joe Lieberman as Gore's running mate. nt DURHAM D Nov 2017 #1
No Gore did dsc Nov 2017 #3
She took credit (blame) for it right after he gave that speech DURHAM D Nov 2017 #4
It was his choice dsc Nov 2017 #5
Agrree, it was ultimately Al's choice. DURHAM D Nov 2017 #6
I am going to guess that this leopard hasn't changed her spots. AJT Nov 2017 #2

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
4. She took credit (blame) for it right after he gave that speech
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:28 PM
Nov 2017

at the Republican National Convention.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
5. It was his choice
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:33 PM
Nov 2017

even if she advocated for it, even if it was her idea, he was the final person who did it. Incidentally, I don't think it was a bad choice then, no one knew that Lieberman would go full idiot after 9/11.

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
6. Agrree, it was ultimately Al's choice.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:43 PM
Nov 2017

I didn't like the choice because I was still irked at Joe for taking to the Senate floor to denounce Clinton in the run-up to the Impeachment vote. Joe seemed to change his mind at the last minute and eventually voted not guilty but he milked it for attention. The choice of Joe indicated early that Al was running away from Clinton.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
2. I am going to guess that this leopard hasn't changed her spots.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:10 PM
Nov 2017

She has probably always been about herself and herself alone. She is just an opportunist who has been using the Democratic party for her own gain.

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