Green group endorses Democratic challenger to Feinstein

[DonViejo]

BY DEVIN HENRY - 11/03/17 11:37 AM EDT

A climate group in California has endorsed a Democratic challenger to Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.).

Climate Hawks Vote endorsed California state Senate Leader Kevin de León on Friday, touting his work in the statehouse on climate issues.

“Kevin de León is the climate hawk in this race, plain and simple,” Climate Hawks Vote president RL Miller said in a statement, noting strong support for de León over Feinstein in a poll the group commissioned. The group praised de León's work on expanding the state’s renewable energy standard, a coal divestment campaign and encouraging the use of electric cars.

“And he’s doing more than simply authoring smart, ambitious legislation — he’s speaking out for climate justice,” Miller said.

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/358627-green-group-endorses-democratic-challenger-to-feinstein

[Me.]

1. Curious

Any connection to Stein and her green party?

[TheDebbieDee]

2. That's what I came in here to find out!

[GaryCnf]

3. Did not endorse anyone in the Presidential General Election

Endorsed Kamala Harris in the Senate race.

Endorsed Sanders in the primary based on what they called an overwhelming vote of their membership.

Website endorsement page says they won't endorse mediocre Democrats regardless of how bad the opponent.

[Me.]

4. Isn't That The Same Attitude That Put Trump INto the WH?

Sounds Stein-ish to me.

[NurseJackie]

11. Stein-ish, Sarandon-ish (and others)...

... they're not fooling anyone.

[GaryCnf]

22. No, I think the attitude that put Trump in the Whitehouse

was more like "People who are oppressed and powerless have nowhere else to turn, so we are going to concentrate our ad campaigns on areas we hope will strike a chord with middle of the road suburbanites (so-called "Clinton Democrats" ) like highlighting Trump's despicable character"

Here they are:

http://www.p2016.org/adsg/adsgeneral.html

Btw, those suburbanites -- the same suburbanites we didn't offend by making them watch ads about fixing Ferguson, Cleveland, Detroit or any of the other urban centers in the Blue Wall; or letting young black men out of prison, or poor immigrants . . . they voted for Trump.

Those people who vote 70%, 80%, 90%+ for our party year after year, people who were already scared they would be left behind with Obama leaving office, people who just wanted to hear us stand up for them? . . . They noticed the silence . . . and 70,000 (compared to 2012) in Wayne County Michigan alone who heard mostly "You'll vote for us or you'll get Trump" stayed home.

. . . as long as we are playing the blame game

[Hortensis]

25. You're saying working people like US had "nowhere else to turn"

because the Democratic Party didn't represent us?

You insultingly accuse me and many other DUers -- of all colors and backgrounds -- of being offended and turned off by mentions of social injustice atrocities? You have a nerve suggesting that about any of us.

Majorities of registered voters in ALL abused minority groups are Democrats and majorities of all who did vote voted Democrat. And they are all represented on DU.

POC especially supported Hillary and voted Democrat in such a high percentage that it shames white turnout, including those despicables who moved to Trump because they resented losing their institutional white advantages. YES, we only promised to create more jobs, not to keep them safe for white men.

When you insult us, you insult US.

[GaryCnf]

26. That isn't what I said at all

I said that the DNC ad campaign targeted white suburbanites and ignored loyal Democratic constituencies and we paid for it as a result.

If you have a counterpoint, please make it, but don't set up some BS straw man and expect me to defend it.

[Hortensis]

28. Rubbish. DU is full of those "loyal Democratic constituencies,"

and you know it. You accused us of resenting and resisting social justice problems to the point that our own party didn't dare address them.

How dare you come to DU and insult us that way?

While at the same time casting as our victims a miserable set of white men who chose to blame the grand diverse coalition of the Democratic Party for their personal problems. They chose instead to vote for what has become a a misogynistic white supremacy party that actually serves only the very wealthy, and they're already paying for that dreadful, spiteful mistake, losing more and more personal power to legislative fiat every week.

[GaryCnf]

29. And now you're just lying

I "accused" (or pointed out) that the ad campaign we ran in 2016 rarely, if ever, touched on social justice issues. The ads are at the link. You can see for yourself.

I said that the reason they did not was because they were counting on those of us who are oppressed to vote for Secretary Clinton because we (as you pointed out) always vote for Democrats because the (R) is ALWAYS worse (or, as I said it originally , we have no where else to turn).

As for the "miserable set of whites" (which, btw, I agree should be left behind), I said our attempts to attract them by running ads that primarily catered to white upper middle class values failed.

If you disagree with that, fine, say so, but don't get up on me saying that I cast that "miserable set of whites" as victims when what I actually said was that we should have never tried to go after their votes in the first place.

[Hortensis]

30. "(so-called "Clinton Democrats" )" This forum is for those people.

Voting for our candidate for president is not an insult here.

In fact, those who did not vote for our Democratic Party candidate for president in 2016 do not belong here. That's official policy.

"People who are oppressed and powerless have nowhere else to turn, so we are going to concentrate our ad campaigns on areas we hope will strike a chord with middle of the road suburbanites (so-called "Clinton Democrats" )

There's nothing "so-called" about us.

And there's nothing imaginary about our commitment to representing both those among us who are oppressed (but hardly powerless) and those who are not.

[GaryCnf]

31. Lol

BILL Clinton Democrats . . . now I actually understand why you are going off the beam.

Here's a link so at least we're on the same page.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democrats

In 1992 Bill Clinton targeted white suburban voters with tactics like executing (and torturing, btw) Ricky Rector, eviscerating the social safety net with welfare reform, and pushing through the 1992 crime bill. While some claim this strategy worked because Clinton served two terms, the fact is that the only reason he won is because Republican voters were split by right leaning third party candidates.

Unfortunately, with the most progressive platform in history and a candidate who could credibly lay claim to it, yes I mean Secretary Clinton, our ads were directed to those same voters Bill tried but failed to attract instead of the 50%+ of Americans that Obama brought in to the fold twice. Voters which, btw, include both you and me.

[Demsrule86]

6. They didn't endorse Clinton so that tells you all you need to know about them.

[Demsrule86]

5. Fuck them who gives two shits...in the age of Trump they

want a competitive primary...so stupid...money could go to unseat Republicans...another group on the never fund and never help in anyway list-naughty list.

[Me.]

7. +1

[Bettie]

8. It's a primary

we're still allowed to have those, aren't we?

Or are we moving to a new model where the candidate is chosen beforehand and there is no need to go and vote in said primary?

[jalan48]

9. What I was wondering. He's a Democrat. So it's OK now to endorse some

Democrats and not others?

[Me.]

13. Purity.... Doncha Know

Where have we seen that before? So we can only hope a Con doesn't make it in again

[jalan48]

14. Or is it "Identity Politics"?

[Me.]

15. Don't Know Enough About Them To Say

[Demsrule86]

18. You don't primary sitting Democrats in a year which favors Republicans...it is unwise.

Waste of money and time.

[jalan48]

21. Oh

[nolabels]

10. Nobody is allowed to go astray of any of the pre-established norms or they out of the party

Now click your heels together and give a salute

[Demsrule86]

16. Absolutely not...there is no benefit to getting rid of a powerful Democrat and replacing her with a

newbie...none. This is a ridiculous waste of money and time...how about unseating a few Republicans...I realize it is more fun for some to attack Democrats...but this primary business is foolish.

[Demsrule86]

20. Oh and it is not about what is allowed but about what is smart and will help us take back the

Senate...this is not wise.

[OnDoutside]

12. Profile

http://www.care2.com/causes/what-you-need-to-know-about-californias-kevin-de-leon.html

California Senator Dianne Feinstein, who has served since 1992, will have at least one challenger in 2018: State Senator Kevin de León, who currently serves as president pro tempore of the state Senate.
Those outside California — or his home district, the 24th — may not be familiar with this rising, and left-leaning, California politician, so here’s what you need to know.
de León was born and raised in Southern California to Guatemalan parents. He became the first in his family to graduate high school and later attended the University of California Santa Barbara, along with Claremont Colleges. de León’s background includes education and community organizing, with a focus on citizenship education and immigration rights.
From 2006 to 2010, he represented the 45th Assembly District, which spans a portion of Los Angeles, before moving to the California Senate. There, de León represented the 22nd and later 24th districts — the change was the result of redistricting. Now, de León is terming out of the state Senate, so if he wants higher office, he must run for Congress, Senate or the governorship.

[Demsrule86]

17. Personally, I hope this person goes down in flames...he should have better judgement than to run.

It risks the seat and we need to unseat Republicans not Democrats...if say down the road de Leon were to be in a presidential primary...I would not vote for him based on his actions with this primary...shows a lack of judgement.

[OnDoutside]

19. Seems strange he doesn't go for a House seat.

[Demsrule86]

23. That is what he should have done...taking back the house is as priority in 18.

[Madam45for2923]

24. I feel there is an agenda here.

[tirebiter]

27. Jungle in Primary in California

Difi will win in the primary then have no problem in the General.

[Blue_Tires]

32. Just once I wish they'd take on vulnerable republicans....