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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:23 AM Nov 2017

Richard W. Painter‏: The fix is in. They set up Sessions to take the fall. After he is gone, a new a

I like Painer. Something is going to have to happen with Sessions and his lying. But what that something is --is a mystery at the moment.



Richard W. Painter? @RWPUSA

The fix is in. They set up Sessions to take the fall. After he is gone, a new acting AG fires Mueller.







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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/358558-ex-trump-aide-told-house-intel-members-sessions-knew-about-his-trip



Ex-Trump aide told House Intel members Sessions knew about his trip to Russia

By Brandon Carter - 11/02/17 08:11 PM EDT

Ex-Trump aide told House Intel members Sessions knew about his trip to Russia
© Getty Images

Carter Page, a former foreign policy adviser to President Trump’s campaign, told House investigators that he told Attorney General Jeff Sessions about his trip to Russia during the campaign, according to a new report.

CNN reports that Page testified that he told Sessions about his trip to Russia, which happened in July 2016.

"Back in June 2016, I mentioned in passing that I happened to be planning to give a speech at a university in Moscow," Page told CNN. "Completely unrelated to my limited volunteer role with the campaign and as I've done dozens of times throughout my life. “

“Understandably, it was as irrelevant then as it is now. If it weren't for the dodgy dossier and all the chaos that those complete lies had created, my passing comment's complete lack of relevance should go without saying,” he continued.

A source told CNN that Page told Sessions about the trip at a dinner in June 2016. The dinner was attended by several members of Trump’s national security team, according to CNN.

In testimony before the Senate in June, Sessions said he did not “recall” any meetings between campaign associates and Russian officials. Page was one of the officials Sessions was asked about.

While he said he knew of no meetings between Page and Russians, he added, “There might be some published accounts of Mr. Page communicating with Russians, I don’t know."
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Richard W. Painter‏: The fix is in. They set up Sessions to take the fall. After he is gone, a new a (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2017 OP
Following the foot steps of Nixon Iliyah Nov 2017 #1
Exactly leftofcool Nov 2017 #2
Firing Mueller would cause a Constitutional crisis. madaboutharry Nov 2017 #3
I admire your optimism (n/t) PJMcK Nov 2017 #6
I always want to see the basic goodness in people. madaboutharry Nov 2017 #8
This 'constitutional crisis' theory is illusory superpatriotman Nov 2017 #7
Painter's usually perceptive, but I think (hope) he's wrong here. highplainsdem Nov 2017 #4
If we're depending on graham madokie Nov 2017 #5
If Trump fires Sessions wouldn't Rosenstein become acting AG? Kablooie Nov 2017 #9
Does 't matter who the AG is. marylandblue Nov 2017 #10
I call bullshit on this one. They all screwed thems elves by colluding and lying about it. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #11
Sessions should start talking C_U_L8R Nov 2017 #12

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
3. Firing Mueller would cause a Constitutional crisis.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:28 AM
Nov 2017

I think that it would cause an avalanche that would bring an end to the Trump presidency. It is too late for Trump. The American people will not stand for it. They will not stand for Trump appointing a new AG, who would need to get pass the U.S. Senate, for the purpose of firing Mueller. Americans aren't going to wake up the next morning and say "oh, that's fine. We will just forget about all this Russia business...." No. That isn't going to happen. We are all in too deep.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
8. I always want to see the basic goodness in people.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:43 AM
Nov 2017

It keeps me from becoming bitter. And when I am disappointed and let down I can honestly say "I gave you a chance."

superpatriotman

(6,249 posts)
7. This 'constitutional crisis' theory is illusory
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:38 AM
Nov 2017

I don't have the faith in American's that you do.

This is not normal.

highplainsdem

(49,000 posts)
4. Painter's usually perceptive, but I think (hope) he's wrong here.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:29 AM
Nov 2017

Getting rid of Sessions doesn't do anything to help Trump with other problems, like Don Jr's Trump Tower meeting with Russians.

As for whether Trump would like someone else as AG who would fire Mueller -- sure, I agree with that.

But according to what I've read, most people around Trump have been advising him that firing Mueller would be politically disastrous.

I think they're more likely to try to use Congress to slash Mueller's funding.

And they might try to start an investigation of Hillary, especially re the uranium deal, in the hope that would tarnish Mueller, Comey and Rosenstein. But I'd guess the wiser heads at the DOJ know that won't work, no matter how much it appeals to nitwits like Bannon and Trump.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
9. If Trump fires Sessions wouldn't Rosenstein become acting AG?
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:48 AM
Nov 2017

And he's not going to fire Mueller.

I suppose Trump could fire Rosenstein then but who's going to take over and fire Mueller?
It would be a quick path to prison

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
10. Does 't matter who the AG is.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:49 AM
Nov 2017

Can't fire Mueller. If he does, Mueller will go to court to get his job back, and win.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
11. I call bullshit on this one. They all screwed thems elves by colluding and lying about it.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 09:57 AM
Nov 2017

Sessions committed perjury and now he's been caught with his hands in the proverbial Keebler jar.



The Republicans know he will be indicted and he's all out of cookies. So they are spinning his departure as a failed AG who was invisible and failed to lock her up.
The effort to spin Jeff's demise goes all the way to the top of the food chain. Trump himself wants to make sure this isn't seen as another #TrumpRussia defeat.


This is not about firing Mueller, it is about controlling the narrative as another lying criminal has to leave the stage.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
12. Sessions should start talking
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 10:05 AM
Nov 2017

before the Trump bus backs up and runs him over again.
He's in a very tenuous position.

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