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Without Bipartisan Tax Deal, No Debt Ceiling Increase (Original Post) David__77 Nov 2017 OP
republicans would drive us right over a cliff if we tried to play that card. unblock Nov 2017 #1
No. They have always threatened us with that. It was wrong then and it would be wrong now.n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #2
Playing the default card . . . peggysue2 Nov 2017 #3

unblock

(52,253 posts)
1. republicans would drive us right over a cliff if we tried to play that card.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 08:38 PM
Nov 2017

every time they did this we screamed in horror at that thought of defaulting, what a disaster that would be and how irresponsible of them to play chicken with something like that.

they would be so confident we would fold that they would call our bluff and simply refuse to negotiate.

if we didn't back down they would default.

for better or for worse, the grossly irresponsible card is only theirs to play.

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
3. Playing the default card . . .
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 10:15 PM
Nov 2017

is dangerous and counterproductive. Mulvaney has already expressed his belief that default is no biggie and there are enough whacko's in Congress to call the bluff, quite willing to jump into the abyss.

Our best bet is get the salient information out to the public in clear, simple language. The Republicans will pretend this is a mega-deal for the middle class by doubling the standard deduction from $12,700 to $24,000. What they don't want you looking at are the personal exemption eliminations as in state taxes, mortgage interest, etc., etc. Depending on your family size and situation, you'll be lucky to break even, let alone get a tax break. And even if you do, that $1100+ savings for the family of four making $59,000 is hardly a windfall, laughably short for the promised kitchen remodel or car purchase.

So, we need to dig, dig, dig. Come up with those practical, understandable examples of how this 'tax reform' is nothing more than a tax cut for the rich, something it was always meant to be. And zero in on how the plan will impact the debt and deficit, those gnarly issues that Republicans traditionally freak over during a Democratic Administration.

As HRC stated quite clearly: Democrats always end up cleaning up after the Republicans blow a black hole in the economy.

If passed, this would be one of those times.

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