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struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 07:53 PM Nov 2017

Apoplectic as allies fear impeachment

BY GABRIEL SHERMAN
NOVEMBER 1, 2017 1:08 PM

... "Here’s what Manafort's indictment tells me: Mueller is going to go over every financial dealing of Jared Kushner and the Trump Organization," said former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg. "Trump is at 33 percent in Gallup. You can't go any lower. He's fucked" ...

The consensus among the advisers I spoke to is that Trump faces few good options to thwart Mueller. For one, firing Mueller would cross a red line, analogous to Nixon's firing of Archibald Cox during Watergate, pushing establishment Republicans to entertain the possibility of impeachment. "His options are limited, and his instinct is to come out swinging, which won’t help things," said a prominent Republican close to the White House ...'

... Speaking to Steve Bannon on Tuesday, Trump blamed Jared Kushner for his role in decisions, specifically the firings of Mike Flynn and James Comey, that led to Mueller’s appointment, according to a source briefed on the call ...

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/the-west-wing-trump-is-apoplectic-as-allies-fear-impeachment

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Apoplectic as allies fear impeachment (Original Post) struggle4progress Nov 2017 OP
He si supposed to be Break time Nov 2017 #1
From the article: guillaumeb Nov 2017 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #5
snowballing towards impeachment or resignation. Don't matter to me. ffr Nov 2017 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #4
REPUBLIKKKS nominated this criminal clown, not Dems maxsolomon Nov 2017 #6
One major change since 1974 DFW Nov 2017 #7
Can't put your foot in the same river twice struggle4progress Nov 2017 #8
this should be an OP.... dhill926 Nov 2017 #9

Break time

(195 posts)
1. He si supposed to be
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 08:04 PM
Nov 2017

The president, that means he is the big boss and all decisions land on his desk....Apparently he doesn't do anything at all therefor cannot be held responsible, it is always someone Else's fault...

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. From the article:
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 08:04 PM
Nov 2017


Trump, meanwhile, has reacted to the deteriorating situation by lashing out on Twitter and venting in private to friends. He’s frustrated that the investigation seems to have no end in sight. “Trump wants to be critical of Mueller,” one person who’s been briefed on Trump’s thinking says. “He thinks it’s unfair criticism. Clinton hasn’t gotten anything like this


Clinton, both Clintons, have been targeted by the GOP for many years.

Response to guillaumeb (Reply #2)

ffr

(22,670 posts)
3. snowballing towards impeachment or resignation. Don't matter to me.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 08:04 PM
Nov 2017

So long as that turd is out of the People's House.

Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

DFW

(54,405 posts)
7. One major change since 1974
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 08:20 PM
Nov 2017

"For one, firing Mueller would cross a red line, analogous to Nixon's firing of Archibald Cox during Watergate, pushing establishment Republicans to entertain the possibility of impeachment."

The radical right is so entrenched in Congress these days, especially the House, that I don't see a red line even existing any more. Establishment Republicans? Oh, that large influential faction consisting of John McCain and Susan Collins? Right, they'll hold the line for about as long as a potted pansy can hold back a tsunami.

Trump really could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue in broad daylight with cameras running, and the House Republicans would ask Sean Hannity for their talking points, and then repeat them verbatim in both the Judiciary Committee and on the House floor, telling the world why Trump's action had not risen to the legal threshold of "high crimes and misdemeanors."

If overtly enriching himself and his family at public expense is not a high crime; if deliberately appointing inappropriate and/or incompetent people to vital cabinet positions is not a high misdemeanor, then nothing else will cross the red line for these people, either. It does not matter what John McCain thinks. It does not matter what Charlie Dent thinks. What matters in today's Congress is what Tom Cotton and Steve Scalise think (to the extent that either do), and what they think is this: whatever Trump says, he's right, and it doesn't matter if he said that exact opposite thing ten minutes earlier.

Impeachment becomes an issue when Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell truly fear losing their majority positions in next year's midterm election, despite all their electoral fraud, voter disenfranchisement, free billions from Citizens United orgs., and free media brainwashing on Fox Noise and National Hate Radio. That's not completely impossible, but we're nowhere close to seeing them quaking in their boots just yet.

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