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I also believe he will not finish his term as president. He will be forced out, probably with the threat of impeachment, or through use of the 25th amendment. Once he's out of office, President Pence will pardon him.
No president has ever spent a day in jail after leaving office. This doesn't mean that some shouldn't have. It just never happened. And it won't happen with Trump.
Do you think Trump will do jail time? Let's hear about it.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)NY AG can get them.
This pardon power is absurd in that he can commit any crime he wants, mass murder of 30 million people, then pardon himself.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"He will be forced out, probably with the threat of impeachment, or through use of the 25th amendment. Once he's out of office, President Pence will pardon him."
I don't think his business entities are on even close to solid ground. He is leveraged in no way and is in debt to the point he can't recover. I would rather watch him wither away fighting lawsuit after lawsuit than pass that off to others. I already feel when he steps down he will blame his children for the state of his business.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)But he won't be able to pay back his debts to Putin if he can't pass the billionaire tax cut. He'll end up in an FSB sub-basement for the rest of his life.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Trump either blows up the investigation and our country goes to a very, very, very dark place.....or he gets impeached and removed or is forced to resign.
The Trump-Pence two-fer that everyone (including me) wants to happen isn't going to actually happen. Mike Pence will be President, not because he's blameless (because he's certainly involved, at least tangentially) but because I don't think the political capital between both Republicans and Democrats is going to be there to remove Pence along with Trump.
However, once President, Pence will either have to a) pardon Trump, and explain to voters in 2020 why he chose to pardon the worst President in US History who colluded with the Russian government to get elected, or b) not pardon Trump, wherein Trump will likely be indicted and stand trial, and Americans watching a former President on trial will be forced to remember every day who Donald Trump chose to be his Vice President.
The latter scenario is a win-win, IMHO.
unblock
(52,253 posts)between being president and being rich and being old, he's got many chances to avoid prison time.
i continue to think he'll serve out his term.
i expect he will be able to settle cases against him for huge sums of money. i know these are criminal cases and not civil cases, but when you're that rich, you can settle for money as a practical matter. if there is time to be "served", it will be house arrest and probation.
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)And after they repeat it loud enough and for long enough and after RW radio picks up on the mantra there will be enough of an outcry by the gullible public to let the asshole walk.
Cyrano
(15,041 posts)lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)Some wanted to lynch Bill C.
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)Whatever collusion his campaign had, there's no evidence yet that he knew, and everything else that's been suggested is still unsupported allegation.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)But I think theres a reason there are several RICO attorneys on Muellers team.
I think is business dealings are going to bring him down.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)and eventually serve actual time in an actual prison, complete with matching jump-suit!
MLAA
(17,298 posts)RICO and jail time.
JDC
(10,129 posts)If he has been laundering money and evading taxes for years upon years, he may be in for a rude awakening. Above and beyond his apparent treason
I dont.
BUT I would like to see him financially RUINED.
That would hurt most for him.
bluepen
(620 posts)Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He can't be pardoned for state charges, so who knows?
maryellen99
(3,789 posts)Blue Owl
(50,427 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)OJ didn't go to jail for murder. Trump would have an even stronger defense team. If any president deserved to go to jail it was John Tyler. But, he died before he could be prosecuted. Taking the side of the confederacy after serving as president was unabashed treason.