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Ninga

(8,275 posts)
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 10:09 AM Nov 2017

Example of Mueller's chess game....

Apparently Manafort's former attorney will be compelled to testify...

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In a 37-page opinion dated Oct. 2 and unsealed this week, Judge Howell determined that Manafort and Gates’ former attorney could be compelled by Mueller “to testify before a grand jury regarding limited aspects of her legal representation of the Targets, which testimony the [special counsel’s office] believes will reveal whether the Targets intentionally misled [the Department of Justice] about their work on behalf of a foreign government and foreign officials.”
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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/10/why_a_judge_ruled_paul_manafort_isn_t_entitled_to_attorney_client_privilege.html


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HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
1. Scary reminder for attorneys...
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 10:27 AM
Nov 2017

Every lawyer should keep this in mind when advising clients on what could be criminal matters. You cannot lie on behalf of your client because if the attorney herself knew the truth, she becomes a co-conspirator. A reminder that a lawyer's job is not to help clients skirt the law, but to advise clients as to what the law is and protect their procedural rights. Too often these days the lawyers become the witnesses on behalf their clients, without regard to where that might lead.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
2. I realize that there is so much about the law, that I don't know. Mueller has her on the
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 10:29 AM
Nov 2017

hot plate.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
3. Scariest call I ever got...
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 10:36 AM
Nov 2017

Was from an AUSA who found a letter I wrote to a client among confiscated documents. In the letter, I warned my client that what they were doing could possibly be a violation of federal law. I never represented the client after that. The AUSA explained to me (I'm not a criminal attorney) that under the RICO laws, attorney client privilege doesn't apply to consultations with attorneys where the client seeks information on how to get away with legal violations.

I didn't get deposed because the former client plead out. I didn't feel like I had done anything wrong, but these people had done some bad things after seeing me, and it was very scary nonetheless.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
4. Yikes! While viewing from an academic perspective, I can only imagine having the
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 10:42 AM
Nov 2017

experience in real time. Scary indeed.

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