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gabeana

(3,166 posts)
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:03 PM Oct 2017

wow Bryan Cranston not on board

with him for this comment

“It would be egotistical for anyone to say, “I hope he fails,’” he added. “To that person I would say, fuck you. Why would you want that? So you can be right?”

Wow I want Trump to fail,
I don't want white nationalism to be the norm
I dont want Tax cuts for the 1%
I don't want a foreign policy that endagers our immediate world
I don't want the climate to be decimated because Climate Change is a "Hoax"

I could go on and on, sadly

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bryan-cranston-donald-trump_us_59f83594e4b09b5c2568be65

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wow Bryan Cranston not on board (Original Post) gabeana Oct 2017 OP
he is a wealthy actor who clearly knows nothing about what is happening. Sad. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2017 #1
I'm with you. He is a force for destruction. When he fails, we win. Squinch Oct 2017 #2
He supported Hillary FWIW n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #3
I know, thats why gabeana Oct 2017 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #13
I think he means this in a general sense. underpants Oct 2017 #5
That's how I read it loyalsister Nov 2017 #17
☑️ underpants Nov 2017 #18
I suppose "Fail" is not a very specific term unblock Oct 2017 #6
You're taking Cranston's comments out of context... blitzen Oct 2017 #7
Maybe, hopefully gabeana Oct 2017 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #14
What he doesn't get is edhopper Oct 2017 #9
You are unintentionally misconstruing the statement. I also hope Trump succeeds. stevenleser Oct 2017 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #15
No, I'm not. I know that Cranston is a Democrat. I know exactly what he means. nt stevenleser Nov 2017 #16
What makes you right gabeana Nov 2017 #20
This isnt complicated at all. He doesnt like Trump, he voted Hillary stevenleser Nov 2017 #21
No gabeana Nov 2017 #23
Trump failing is not the same thing as America failing. Beartracks Nov 2017 #11
Well said sharedvalues Nov 2017 #12
Perhaps he should have said I dont want America to fail. Calista241 Nov 2017 #19
the actual interview mercuryblues Nov 2017 #22
Does not make it any better gabeana Nov 2017 #24
We need to learn about ACTORS: UTUSN Nov 2017 #25
Do we really want a racist, sexist, bigot, who is trying to take away people's healthcare, and undo still_one Nov 2017 #26

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
4. I know, thats why
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:16 PM
Oct 2017

I didn't throw him under the bus
just a perplexing self-righteous statement, seemed out of character

Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #3)

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
17. That's how I read it
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:03 PM
Nov 2017

Especially if his failure extends to suffering for our fellow citizens. I would love to see Trump manage to not fail at diplomacy and avoid war, but I think that is probably a stretch.

unblock

(52,253 posts)
6. I suppose "Fail" is not a very specific term
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:17 PM
Oct 2017

There are many ways in which he could "fail".

Well, in addition to the many ways he already has failed....

Some of those involve damage, perhaps quite a lot of damage, to many Americans.

So while we want him to fail, we also want him to fail in a way that does minimal collateral damage.


Given the opportunity, I'd ask Cranston to clarify, though one eyebrow is raised....

blitzen

(4,572 posts)
7. You're taking Cranston's comments out of context...
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:19 PM
Oct 2017

It's clear that he means he doesn't want to see America decline during Trump's term. Equally clear that he despises Trump.

Response to blitzen (Reply #7)

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
9. What he doesn't get is
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:39 PM
Oct 2017

If Trump succeeds America fails.

Trump has never had the interest of America at heart.

He will never be a leader that works for the good of the people.

We need Trump to fail, and soon.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
10. You are unintentionally misconstruing the statement. I also hope Trump succeeds.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:46 PM
Oct 2017

However, for Trump to succeed, Americans of all races and backgrounds would need to be empowered.

For Trump to succeed, he would have to treat our allies around the world well, and be a statesman.

For Trump to succeed, he would need to care about our system of democracy and the integrity of our elections.

For Trump to succeed, he would need to be on the right side of anthropomorphic climate change.

For Trump to succeed, he would need to be honest and obey the law and demand the same from all in his administration.

You get the idea.

So, yes, I want him to succeed. But he is not going to succeed unless he becomes a Liberal

Response to stevenleser (Reply #10)

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
21. This isnt complicated at all. He doesnt like Trump, he voted Hillary
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 08:50 PM
Nov 2017

and he is a Democrat.

We’re not talking calculus here, this is simple arithmetic.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
11. Trump failing is not the same thing as America failing.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 12:19 AM
Nov 2017

Sure, he made campaign processes that sounded great. But I doubt anyone who says they hope he fails is referring to what he SAID he was going to do; rather, they hope he fails in doing what he's actually DECIDED to do.

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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
19. Perhaps he should have said I dont want America to fail.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:09 PM
Nov 2017

I think it’s safe to say that everyone on this board wants all 5 things you listed in your post to come true. But I don’t want one incompetent President to ruin America for the rest of us, and for all time.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
22. the actual interview
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 09:37 PM
Nov 2017

and entire quote


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bryan-cranston-talks-last-flag-flying-why-he-isnt-rooting-trumps-failure-1052844

It’s just astonishing to me. President Trump is not the person who I wanted to be in that office, and I’ve been very open about that. That being said, he is the president. If he fails, the country is in jeopardy. It would be egotistical for anyone to say, “I hope he fails.” To that person I would say, fuck you. Why would you want that? So you can be right?

don’t want him to fail. I want him to succeed. I do. I honestly do. … And if you’ve got a good idea that helps the country, oh man, I’m gonna support you. I don’t care if you’re a Republican and I’m a Democrat or whatever, I don’t care. A good idea’s a good idea. Let’s do that. We’ve got to get away from this idea that our country is political football, and someone with a different opinion is the enemy. Assume they love this country as much as you do, and there’s always room for improvement. How can we make it better?


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UTUSN

(70,711 posts)
25. We need to learn about ACTORS:
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 10:37 PM
Nov 2017

1) HITCHCOCK said they are CATTLE. (Yeah-yeah, HITCHCOCK was a predator; making a different point here.)

2) They *ACT* out things other people WROTE.

3) We need to compartmentalize them from their material.

4) It's lovely when they say the things we like; not when they don't.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
26. Do we really want a racist, sexist, bigot, who is trying to take away people's healthcare, and undo
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 10:48 PM
Nov 2017

every positive thing President Obama did?

As someone said in another thread, if this was the first few weeks of his presidency that view might be a legitimate argument, but after 11 months of demonstrating exactly who he is, and what he is trying to do, Cranston is off his rocker

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