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ffr

(22,670 posts)
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:19 PM Oct 2017

Manafort and Gates Pose Serious Risk of Flight, Says Mueller

Former Trump campaign aides Paul Manafort and Rick Gates posed a "serious risk of flight" because of their wealth and connections abroad, Special Counsel Robert Mueller argued in newly filed court papers.
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"The defendants pose a risk of flight based on the serious nature of the charges, their history of deceptive and misleading conduct, the potentially significant sentences the defendants face, the strong evidence of guilt, their significant financial resources, and their foreign connections," Mueller's office wrote in a bail memo unsealed Tuesday.

"Both have had substantial overseas ties, including assets held abroad, significant foreign work connections, and significant travel abroad. Those aspects of the defendants' history and characteristics evidence a risk of flight."
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In the memo, Mueller's office calculated the possible maximum sentences under federal sentencing guidelines if Manafort and Gates were convicted. Gates could serve up to 12 years and seven months and Manafort is facing up to 15 years and eight months in prison, the prosecutors said.

"The possibility of prison sentences in these ranges alone establishes a risk of flight as to both defendants," the filing says.

Both men have pleaded not guilty. Manafort's bail was set at $10 million, Gates's at $5 million. Both are confined to their homes by court order. - NBC News
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Manafort and Gates Pose Serious Risk of Flight, Says Mueller (Original Post) ffr Oct 2017 OP
Why did they get to go home? onecaliberal Oct 2017 #1
Well that's a judge's call not Mueller's. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2017 #3
Clearly. But they shouldnt have been allowed to go home. onecaliberal Oct 2017 #4
If they pose a "serious risk of flight" why did he allow them to turn themselves in... PoliticAverse Oct 2017 #2
I thought their passports were confiscated. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #5
I think if they flee, they don't care how it looks. nt babylonsister Oct 2017 #8
No, but it would not look good for the Trump administration if they did. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #12
With their money and connections Thrill Oct 2017 #10
I'm sure they could, but that would open up another whole can of worms. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #13
The other way they could get out... defacto7 Oct 2017 #11
They should be lucky to be locked up here. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #14
Yeah, Hornedfrog1985 Oct 2017 #15
LOCK THEM UP! malaise Oct 2017 #6
Putin has a nicely furnished dacha waiting for them I bet, .... L. Coyote Oct 2017 #7
Their Legal people most likley Wellstone ruled Oct 2017 #9

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
2. If they pose a "serious risk of flight" why did he allow them to turn themselves in...
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:28 PM
Oct 2017

instead of finding and arresting them (they still had their passports then even)?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
5. I thought their passports were confiscated.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:32 PM
Oct 2017

Where are they going to go, legally. The only way they will get out of here is if they are assisted by another party or government that gets them out of here illegally. That's not going to look good.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. No, but it would not look good for the Trump administration if they did.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:54 PM
Oct 2017

They would pretty much be admitting guilt and their fear of Trump's retaliation.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. I'm sure they could, but that would open up another whole can of worms.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:55 PM
Oct 2017

I think they are pretty much between a rock and a hard place.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
11. The other way they could get out...
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:18 PM
Oct 2017

is if they are killed by a foregn power or business interest. That would probably be more easily done at their home.

I think they should have been held in top security confinement for safety reasons. Witnesses have to be preserved I would think.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. They should be lucky to be locked up here.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:57 PM
Oct 2017

It's the only thing that would keep them safe. If they go anywhere else, they are easy targets. Nobody will protect them if they flee.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. Their Legal people most likley
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 09:08 PM
Oct 2017

put their personal reputation on the line. Thursday is their Bail Hearing.

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