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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think Mueller is going to indict all of those present at the Trump Tower meeting of June 9th
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_campaign%E2%80%93Russian_meeting
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On June 9, 2016, a meeting was held in Trump Tower in New York City between three senior members of the presidential campaign of Donald Trump Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort and at least five other people, including Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. The meeting was arranged by publicist and long-time Trump acquantiance, Rob Goldstone on behalf of his client, singer-songwriter Emin Agalarov.[1] It was disclosed to U.S. government officials when Kushner filed a revised version of his security clearance form.[2]
Donald Trump Jr. initially told the press that the meeting was held to discuss adoptions of Russian children by Americans. On July 8, 2017, Trump Jr. tweeted that he agreed to the meeting with the understanding that he would receive information damaging to Hillary Clinton, and that he was conducting opposition research.[3] Goldstone had stated in his email that the Russian government was involved.[4] Robert Mueller, the special counsel of the Department of Justice in charge of Russia-related investigations, is investigating the emails and the meeting.[5]
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)It would also decimate the Trump/Kushner families and throw everyone off sync.
Jr. is in Iowa pheasant hunting, this weekend. Last hunting trip for a while, Donnie?
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Vinca
(50,273 posts)imanamerican63
(13,795 posts)Mueller needs to all the power!!!
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Trussian TreasonWeasels (R) who have betrayed America deserve a full measure of justice.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)Next he will fire Rosenstine. Then Boente's replacement is in charge and he will fire Mueller.
The Republicans will do nothing about it.
Russian language will become the new US official language.
kentuck
(111,097 posts)Has that been verified?
FreeState
(10,572 posts)"With the resignation of Dana Boente on Friday as U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, President Donald Trump has an opportunity to replace another Obama-era holdover in the Department of Justice line of succession. If Trump demands that the department fire Special Counsel Robert Mueller, and if enough officials resign or get fired rather than carry out his order, the decision to do so could fall to Boentes successor.
As Attorney General Jeff Sessions has told the Senate Judiciary Committee, Trump has been interviewing candidates for some of the 93 open U.S. attorney positions. Democratic lawmakers and legal analysts have claimed his involvement in that process is inappropriate. But the Eastern District of Virginia role is especially important, thanks to an executive order that Trump signed in March.
The order altered the line of succession at the top of the Justice Department. The order includes three U.S. attorneys, meaning that making departmental decisions such as whether to fire Mueller could fall on one of them. Mueller is overseeing the FBI investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and possible coordination with the Trump campaign."
lapucelle
(18,261 posts)that Boente may have resigned because he will serve as a witness concerning what happened when Trump had the private one-on-one talk with Comey at the White House.
Boente was present that night.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/amp/dana-boente-senior-federal-prosecutor-obama-holdover-submits-resignation-n815331
Wouldn't that be unconstitutional for an executive branch to interfere in such a way with the judicial branch? It sounds a little fishy to me.
dflprincess
(28,078 posts)So they belong to the executive branch
kentuck
(111,097 posts)I have always heard.
dflprincess
(28,078 posts)though I suppose the White House can "guide" the DOJ in some ways - but more in who it appoints to some positions. Once that's done I would think it would have to keep its hands off - or that's what a smart administration does (and we know this one is not smart). BTW did you hear that Trump has interviewed some candidates for U.S. Attorney? That is entirely unheard of.
I was probably being overly picky in my reaction to your first point.
kentuck
(111,097 posts)Trump interviewing candidates for US Attorney? But it is the selective way he is doing it that is disturbing. New York, D.C., and Florida? What do they have in common?
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)It is spelled Rosenstein. And he won't fire him.
Don't forget to study your Russian, after the spelling, before bed tonight.
flotsam
(3,268 posts)wait until he has loaded his single shot shotgun. Then announce loudly you have come with handcuffs. This will give him an honorable option...
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I can't wait to see that little punk doing the perp walk.
Here he is relieving himself in his Depends undergarments:
magicarpet
(14,150 posts)One can hope he is famished for a snack of raw human flesh.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)...the Russian collusion case. It'll be for some shadiness he was doing prior to working on Trump's campaign.
And by this time next week, Mueller will have resigned.
That's my prediction.
kentuck
(111,097 posts)Mueller will resign?
That doesn't seem like something he would be interested in doing at this time?
Maybe he will be fired?
And the Senate will do nothing about it?
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)...Particularly now that two mainstream news agencies (Fox and the WSJ) have called for him to resign and GOP lawmakers are threatening to chop off funding. Manafort is going to be the "Scooter Libby" fall guy and give Mueller a scalp for all the time and money that's been spent.
Manafort will get convicted over some process violation, maybe do a little time in Club Fed, and offer up nothing linking Trump to any illegal activities. Mueller will conclude that while he knows Trump is dirty, he can't really prove it and that'll be the end of it. Mueller will retire to a lucrative private practice and Trump will lose interest over Uranium One.
kentuck
(111,097 posts)I really have no idea... ??
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)...to being removed from office.
He's not firing people. He's not demanding resignations. In short, he's not acting like he's concerned in the least over this investigation. And when you think about it, why should he be? As long as the GOP holds Congress, nobody with an (R) after their name and an interest in continuing their political career is going to do anything that would jeopardize their ability to get re-elected or raise money.
In my heart I believe Monday's indictments will be a big nothingburger. By Friday, they'll be old news.
This being said, I'd love to be proven wrong.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)At least, that will be the position he and his lawyers take.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)you must acquit!"
fallout87
(819 posts)With you. Mueller isn't going to get Trump. Mueller is a republican. Plus their smear campaign against him with the uranium BS is being bought by the republicans. This isn't good.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)With the Bannon wing of the party and the white supremacist faction of the party gaining strength, many are concerned that they might not be able to control the Frankenstein base that they have created. Besides many or our allies are nervous with Trump's fingers on the nuclear codes, and the GOP has to be concerned that the Dotard in the WH might start something that can quickly spin out of control. Our allies in Europe have lost faith that the Dotard in the WH can be contained and the Dotard's threat to nullify the Iranian agreement coupled with the continued threats to attack North Korea could have perilous consequenses no one had imagined just a year ago. The Dotard must go.
fallout87
(819 posts)Do you have so much faith in mueller? Is this just more wishful thinking? Trump has literally gotten out of every shady/illegal thing he has done. Theres no reason to believe monday is the day he finally goes down.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)FreeState
(10,572 posts)The other leaks on Friday dont give credence to your theory. The two other major leaks all were on Trump collusion.
While anything is possible I think its highly unlikely Muller has resigned or stopped investigations by the end of the week. Thats as pie in the sky high as a Trump inditement happening Monday in my opinion.
Dr. Jack
(675 posts)Arresting the president's (i use that term loosely) son as his opening move would be beyond shocking. I'm not saying Mueller doesn't have the guts to do it but everything I have read about the man is that he methodically climbs the ladder, going after the lesser figures first and then builds a case for the higher ups. Shitbag Jr. is probably like the 3rd highest person on Mueller's list. Taking aim at him first thing seems unlikely. He needs to chip away at the outer walls before going after the rotten core.
My guess, and I of course say this without being a legal expert of any kind, would be Manafort, Flynn, and/or Flynn Jr. I have heard a good case for Flynn's son going down first. One of Mueller and Co's favorite tactics, from what I have read, is to go after the family members of lower level people in these crime syndicates to make said lower level people much more like likely to cooperate to save their and their horrible offspring's necks.
Then again, its all just speculation. Fun speculation, I have to admit but still, we are going to have to wait and see.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)It would be very unusual for an investigation of this size and complexity. Of course I don't know anymore than anyone else who is going to do the perpwalk (metaphorical or actual). My guess is Manafort and/or Flynn.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)peripheral players. The insiders will recognize the peril, but the Republcons will cry foul and say, See? Nothing there. All this hoopla and nothing there.
I prefer your version.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)But he might think he's still president and keep tweeting about Hillary.
At least his supporters will be able to say he'd have been a better crook if he wasn't so senile.
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Hoyt
(54,770 posts)disappointing at this point.
less than Trump Sr would be disappointing at this point.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)around. But I don't think he will be indicted. I suppose there is some chance of charges of obstruction of justice for Trump due to his messing with Comey. But would love to see it, or a threat of impeachment forcing him out.
Would love to see that
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)conspirator."
Calista241
(5,586 posts)The email that let everyone know about that meeting was released to the investigators by Trump's team. And we've heard nothing nefarious about that meeting, other than it happened. So unless Mueller can prove the lawyer gave Trump Jr. something illegal, or the Trump campaign provided information the Russian government later used in their smear campaign of Hillary, this is going nowhere.
There are no legal repercussions for lying to the media, or lying to anyone not acting in an official capacity. Since the Trump team turned over the evidence that this meeting happened, I somewhat doubt that they'll be indicted for it.
tblue37
(65,358 posts)Glamrock
(11,801 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)The fact that Trump and his associates had been surveilled by foreign intelligence agencies and audio tapes exist is enough to convince me to let this play out in its entirety before casting any judgment as to who may or may not be ensnared in the gargantuan web. Everything we know, we know because someone leaked it to the press. The powers that be want the public to keep their eyes on the prize. Eventually, we'll see the full picture. Right now, we're still largely operating in the dark.
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)For months now, they want us to know what's going on and I'm grateful.
Here it is late Saturday night, just think of all the lost sleep tomorrow night in Washington, people gonna be quivering Monday morning waiting.........
Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.