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Baitball Blogger

(46,736 posts)
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 03:14 PM Jul 2012

Lawyers react to George Zimmerman's interview with Hannity



Central Florida criminal defense lawyers say it was a mistake for George Zimmerman to go on national television last night and do an hour-long interview with Fox News host Sean Hannity, discussing what happened the night he killed Trayvon Martin.

"I think George Zimmerman needs to stop talking," said David Faulkner, a former FBI agent and Winter Park criminal defense attorney.

Special Prosecutor Angela Corey during the noon-hour filed formal notice that she intends to use the interview as evidence against Zimmerman.

Zimmerman deviated at least twice from his previous versions of what happened the night he shot Trayvon. He told Hannity he walked in Trayvon's direction because he needed to find a house number to help police find him, but in recorded interviews with Sanford police, he said it was because he had forgotten the street's name, something detectives challenged him on.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-07-19/news/os-george-zimmerman-interview-react-20120719_1_trayvon-martin-special-prosecutor-angela-corey-george-zimmerman
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Lawyers react to George Zimmerman's interview with Hannity (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 OP
oopsy george Voice for Peace Jul 2012 #1
His lawyer okayed him doing interviews... Spazito Jul 2012 #2
I have yet to figure out lawyers in Central Florida. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #3
Re-activate donations atreides1 Jul 2012 #8
I just don't get it, to encourage his client to do public interviews... Spazito Jul 2012 #12
That sounds like unethical behavior, malpractice or both. hifiguy Jul 2012 #10
Zimmerman doesn't need more money. He needs different facts, a better personality and credibility. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #24
Oh, man, now he's got grounds to appeal. tclambert Jul 2012 #27
Hannity should also be brought into court Cali_Democrat Jul 2012 #4
He can be subpeonaed now. Fawke Em Jul 2012 #6
for the life of me... mnmoderatedem Jul 2012 #5
And every potential juror has now heard, or will hear, him say MoonRiver Jul 2012 #7
Except that any potential juror that would agree with that would probably be eliminated for cause. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #25
They can't eliminate everybody who saw the show. MoonRiver Jul 2012 #32
And if only one juror is a conservative Christian and agrees with Zimmerman's comment ... spin Jul 2012 #33
There's my good chuckle for the morning. Heywood J Jul 2012 #38
I agree that was a humourous screw up ... spin Jul 2012 #39
well his lawyer got to be on the teevee for an hour with george....free advertising spanone Jul 2012 #9
I don't think the lawyer gives a rats ass what happens to Zimmerman tularetom Jul 2012 #11
Suggests to me that O'Mara thinks Zimmerman's case is pretty hopeless. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #26
That's the problem with lying. You forget what you "forgot". JBoy Jul 2012 #13
"May Zimmerman spend eternity in hell immersed hifiguy Jul 2012 #14
That's gross and disgusting. How can you even write such vile things? rhett o rick Jul 2012 #16
Sure, but you'd better credit Ellison. hifiguy Jul 2012 #17
No shit! And you should see the guy in person, liberalhistorian Jul 2012 #19
I met Harlan a couple of times when I managed an SF/comics shop hifiguy Jul 2012 #21
Yup, that sounds like him and liberalhistorian Jul 2012 #28
Gotta agree with this sentiment. n/t RebelOne Jul 2012 #20
He can't stop talking and going on Fox "news" bongbong Jul 2012 #15
If he walks away a free man, there is B Calm Jul 2012 #18
With the amount of crap that's been spewed in the media it's going to be very hard to find enough... slackmaster Jul 2012 #30
doing this nationwide will onethatcares Jul 2012 #22
Yes. Zimmerman walked on the path between the back doors of the houses to figure out where he was. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #23
and it turns out he tried to get a one month hotel stay out of The View. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #29
My wife watches The View and I overheard today Barbara speaking of rhett o rick Jul 2012 #31
"...your honor, we can't find an impartial jury after 3 years...this is not due process" uponit7771 Jul 2012 #34
where's that "Professor" to tell us how to think about this?! fascisthunter Jul 2012 #35
Hey! Hannity! If you're lurking I'd just like to say you really are an idiot! Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #36
He's tainting the jury pool. He knows exactly what he is doing. DainBramaged Jul 2012 #37

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
2. His lawyer okayed him doing interviews...
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 03:19 PM
Jul 2012

which makes it even bizarre. O'Mara said it was to re-activate the donations. Bizarre.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
8. Re-activate donations
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 03:29 PM
Jul 2012

By using Zimmerman's statement that it was "part of God's plan", now the radical religious whackos will be filling the coffers to defend this asshat.

O'Mara knew exactly what he was doing and by going on Fox!

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
12. I just don't get it, to encourage his client to do public interviews...
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 03:52 PM
Jul 2012

which could make it even more difficult for his defence in order to raise funds to pay his lawyer. Does NOT sound at ethical, at the very least, to me.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
10. That sounds like unethical behavior, malpractice or both.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 03:34 PM
Jul 2012

If some attorney tried that in my state, the bar authorities would have him in for a "little talk" and pronto.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
24. Zimmerman doesn't need more money. He needs different facts, a better personality and credibility.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:40 PM
Jul 2012

You cannot buy those things.

Maybe O'Mara needs more money to compensate for the damage this case is likely to do to his career. Wow! I can't believe this.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
27. Oh, man, now he's got grounds to appeal.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:46 PM
Jul 2012

Incompetent assistance of counsel. No competent lawyer would approve of his client talking publicly about a pending case. If the client does so against the advice of counsel, the lawyer can't really stop him, but the lawyer could ask to be removed from the case. But no lawyer says, "Sure, go ahead and talk about it. Hey, while you're at it, you can give the prosecution some more evidence to use against you. Why not go ahead and confess? Hey, I know, get it videotaped! Then the prosecution can play the most incriminating bits for the jury. Then they can see for themselves what an idiot you are."

mnmoderatedem

(3,728 posts)
5. for the life of me...
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 03:21 PM
Jul 2012

I'll never understand why lawyers allow their clients to talk to the media before their trial. Nothing good can come of it, only bad....

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
32. They can't eliminate everybody who saw the show.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 07:36 PM
Jul 2012

All those people need to admit is that they watched. After all wasn't that the point of Zimmy going on FAUX?

spin

(17,493 posts)
33. And if only one juror is a conservative Christian and agrees with Zimmerman's comment ...
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:29 PM
Jul 2012

that might lead to a hung jury. I live in Florida and there is indeed a lot of Fundamentalist Christians in this state.

The news media jumped all over Zimmerman's statement and ridiculed it but many people in Florida feel that the media was more involved in playing judge and jury in this early days of this case rather than reporting on the facts of the story in an unbiased manner.

The media has always advocated strong gun control and the Trayvon Martin shooting offered both the national and the local Florida media an excellent opportunity to criticize Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law. Surprisingly the results of all the negative articles on this law have made little impact on many Floridian's support for this law.

Poll: Most Floridians want no changes to Stand Your Ground law

Most Florida voters polled favor the ‘Stand Your Ground’ law; there’s no consensus on how it should be applied in the Trayvon Martin case.


Posted on Monday, 07.16.12

TALLAHASSEE -- Florida’s controversial “Stand Your Ground” law continues to enjoy widespread support among likely voters, even as a state task force considers rewriting the law, according to a new Tampa Bay Times/Miami Herald/Bay News 9 poll.

Nearly 65 percent say the 2005 law — which allows people who believe they are in grave danger to use deadly force to defend themselves — does not need to be changed. There’s less consensus when it comes to voters’ thoughts on the Trayvon Martin shooting, which thrust “Stand Your Ground” into the national spotlight this year.

Voters are essentially split about whether George Zimmerman — who faces second-degree murder charges for shooting the 17-year-old Trayvon on Feb. 26 — was acting in self-defense when he pulled the trigger. Forty-four percent believe he was and 40 percent say he wasn’t, while 16?percent are not sure. Major differences emerge when voters are separated by geography and race.



Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/16/2897263/poll-most-floridians-want-no-changes.html#storylink=cpy


As a disclaimer I should point out that I have a Florida Concealed Weapons permit, carry on a regular basis and I am not a Fundamentalist Christian.

I support the basic concept of Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law but since there have been several questionable cases where using this defense was successful, I favor rewriting the law to remove any possible confusion or ambiguities that exist.

I personally fault Zimmerman for leaving his vehicle. This led to the death of Trayvon Martin.

I carry a firearm for self defense. I am not a cop nor am I a vigilante. If I notice someone acting in a truly suspicious manner in my neighborhood I will report it to the police and let those who are far better trained than I am handle the situation.

If I am attacked by someone who intends to put me in the hospital for an extended period of time on six feet under and has the capacity to do so, I will use my legally concealed handgun to attempt to stop his attack. If I am confronted by an individual who merely wants my money and is armed, I will simply give him my wallet. I can always replace my money, my credit cards and my ID. I can't replace my heath or my life as easily.

If the individual who is attacking me is unarmed, I will attempt to use what remains of my marital arts skills that I learned 20 years ago or pepper spray to stop his attack. The last thing that I ever wish to do is to shoot someone.

Heywood J

(2,515 posts)
38. There's my good chuckle for the morning.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 07:26 AM
Jul 2012
I will attempt to use what remains of my marital arts skills that I learned 20 years ago

Which of those skills would be used on a mugger?

spin

(17,493 posts)
39. I agree that was a humourous screw up ...
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:45 PM
Jul 2012

My skills at spelling appear to have diminished much like my martial arts skills. (To be fair neither was ever that great.)

I'm glad I provided you with a morning chuckle.

I think my best fuck up when posting was the time I typed Untied States rather that United States which also caused some laughter among the people who bothered to read my post. Obviously I need to take more time to proof read.

Apparently you did take that time to read my post which I appreciate.



tularetom

(23,664 posts)
11. I don't think the lawyer gives a rats ass what happens to Zimmerman
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 03:49 PM
Jul 2012

but he does want to make sure he gets all his fees paid. He knows the actual financial condition of Zimmerman and his family and he also knows this whole process will net him 7 figures in legal fees.

If Zimmerman goes on a show where a lot of assholes see him, the donations to his defense fund will pour in and the lawyer has his own private ATM. He doesn't care if Zimmerman runs off at the mouth and says a lot of stupid shit that will incriminate him, he gets his money regardless of what happens to his client.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
26. Suggests to me that O'Mara thinks Zimmerman's case is pretty hopeless.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:45 PM
Jul 2012

Maybe O'Mara figures he can't get Zimmerman off -- it's up to God. That's where Zimmerman heard about the "will of God" bit.

Can you picture a lawyer telling his client, "My fee is xyz,000 per hour but whether you get off or get life is up to God."?

One thing we can be sure of. Zimmerman is not very bright. Nor are the people who donate to his defense fund -- but then, what is new.

And I'm not saying whether Zimmerman will be convicted or not. Anything can happen. But there are inconsistencies in his story, things that make no sense within my experience in life.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
14. "May Zimmerman spend eternity in hell immersed
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 03:58 PM
Jul 2012

to his nostrils in a pit of boiling hyena vomit... standing on Sean Hannity's shoulders."

From the comments section, via a Harlan Ellison quote, over at Charlie Pierce's indispensible blog: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/george-zimmerman-sean-hannity-interview-10818826

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
17. Sure, but you'd better credit Ellison.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 04:57 PM
Jul 2012

He gets touchy about things like that. As well he should. Even the masterful Charlie Pierce and the late, great Dr. H. S. Thompson take a back seat to Harlan in the crafting of towering and magnificent insults.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
19. No shit! And you should see the guy in person,
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:12 PM
Jul 2012

he is really something else! I saw him eight or so years ago at an appearance back in Cleveland, got a book signed and got to talk to him for a bit. He's from my old hometown in Ohio, which he absolutely hated and used veiled references to throughout his work, and we had fun trashing it a bit, lol! His on-the-spot eloquence and brutal candor was quite something to behold.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
21. I met Harlan a couple of times when I managed an SF/comics shop
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:22 PM
Jul 2012

in the early/mid 1990s. The store's owner knew him well and he came in for conventions or signings every so often. He's straight-razor-sharp, well-read on seemingly everything, and has zero tolerance for idiots or ass-kissers. I found him to be a complete and mightily entertaining hoot, but someone around whom one stays on one's toes. He seemed to like me - I got his more esoteric jokes and openly shared his hatred of right wingers.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
28. Yup, that sounds like him and
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:47 PM
Jul 2012

like the person I met! People like that, who don't tolerate any yes-men, idiots or bullshitters, and who are brutally open about it, can and usually are really refreshing to be around. It's like you get courage just standing next to them. He's always marched to his own drum no matter what it's cost him, and it's cost him plenty over the years.

Those same qualities, however, would probably make him hard to live with and it's no surprise that he's on wife number five; so far, that's lasted longer than any of his others. She was with him on the tour where I saw him, and she's a really nice but strong English lady. I think she understands him pretty well, which is what he needs.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
30. With the amount of crap that's been spewed in the media it's going to be very hard to find enough...
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 06:13 PM
Jul 2012

...potential jurors who haven't been tainted to the point where they have already decided what the outcome should be.

onethatcares

(16,172 posts)
22. doing this nationwide will
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:23 PM
Jul 2012

make finding a venue for prosecution a little harder. Maybe they'll have to move the trial to northwestern Idaho to find someone that hasn't heard of it.

(pssst, I'm not certain this was their intention)

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
23. Yes. Zimmerman walked on the path between the back doors of the houses to figure out where he was.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:36 PM
Jul 2012

Normally, in my experience, street signs and house numbers are on the fronts of the houses. Is Florida different on this? I've only been to Pensacola and only briefly.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
29. and it turns out he tried to get a one month hotel stay out of The View.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:51 PM
Jul 2012

George Zimmerman apparently called into 'The View' to make nice with Barbara Walters on Thursday, one day after the famed TV journalist nixed a possible interview with him over his demands for a monthlong hotel stay.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/zimmerman-calls-view-barbara-walters-walks-interview-meeting-article-1.1117912#ixzz216k4HS2O


class act fool class acting before extended all expenses stay in slammer.
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
31. My wife watches The View and I overheard today Barbara speaking of
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 06:53 PM
Jul 2012

Zimmerman in a way that suggested that she sympathizes with him. She can not relate to the 99%.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
36. Hey! Hannity! If you're lurking I'd just like to say you really are an idiot!
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:10 PM
Jul 2012

And thanks for the nails for the coffin.

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