I just turned onto Fox News. It was really creepy...and totally bizarre.

[StevieM]

They are ignoring the charges that Mueller has filed. Completely ignoring them.

The headline read: No details in Democrat Scandals.

They were talking about the "fact" (in other words, fiction) that HRC sold our uranium to Russia for 110 million dollars. And that is so much worse than Donald Trump Jr. taking one meeting that supposedly came to nothing.

They live in an alternate reality. Unfortunately, they have demonstrated a great ability in the past to bring a large percentage of the country into that alternate reality with them.

The worst part of the post-Watergate era is the way it laid the groundwork for insane amounts of swiftboating.

The people at Fox are truly bereft of personal ethics. They are fundamentally evil people.

[spanone]

1. they do that regularly when they don't agree with the reality of the news.

[StevieM]

2. I think they do agree. They know the truth--they just lie about.

That is the whole purpose to Fox--to lie to their viewers.

[Jim Beard]

17. FOX knows what their viewers want to hear, so they tell them.....

They give them what they want.

[KPN]

28. No. They are right there with them;

leading the way with lies that serve there own purposes-- yes to profit from moron viewership, but ultimately to control. Fox IS evil ... and everyone sssociated with its management and programming.

[Jim Beard]

36. They did not get converted by FOX News, they were already right wing idiots that

FOX news appeals to.

[smirkymonkey]

44. In other words, they flat out lie and just make shit up.

They are the scourge of our nation.

[emulatorloo]

5. Waiting for their talking points from Trump and/or Putin

[Fred Sanders]

3. Fox is evil. No other word fits. Same for Shitler. Peas in an evil pod.

The world of lies is infinite, the truth is narrow. So of course Fox chooses lies....no need for real journalists or factchecking. Much cheaper.

[rufus dog]

4. I purposely turned them on about 30 minutes after Bin Laden was killed

once CNN/MSNBC started repeating the information know at the time. It was like a friggen funeral at Fox, long faced, visibly unhappy.

Truly disgusting people.

[LeftInTX]

14. I think I first saw Bin Laden on the ticker on Fox while I was at the gym

Fox is the "in house" network at the gym.

So, I darted home and watched it on CNN.

[bearsfootball516]

6. Think of how scary it is, that so many people are misinformed

There are millions of people who don't watch NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC whatsoever, and don't read any newspaper. The only news they see is Fox, they listen to Sean Hannity at night, and then listen to Rush Limbaugh while driving to work. If they don't see or hear about something from those sources, they have no idea it's happening at all.

[Awsi Dooger]

20. When I travel it's unbelievable how many televisions are set to Fox News

If I check into a hotel I'm shocked if it's not on Fox when I turn it on. Some of them default to Fox and others have been left there by the previous occupant.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

7. It's unreal and bizarre

You really should watch a little of this wow I mean wow.

[cilla4progress]

22. Cant possibly,

But thanks for your sacrifice.

[jalan48]

8. FOX is Republican TV-they toe the party line.

[KPN]

29. Exactly. Fox is a Republican tool --

and the Republican Party is the tool of Southern Aristicrats and would be oligarchs. They are all self-serving, power hungry, greed monger willing to do anything it takes to serve their purposes regardless of the harm it does to everyone else. They are all EVIL.

[StevieM]

9. I'll respond to my own post. I just turned on Fox again and they are relentlessly bashing HRC.

Now they are saying that she is ridiculous for not going away. One anchor even compared her unfavorably to Al Gore. The guest couldn't run with it. She felt obligated to point out Gore's shameful invention of climate change.

[Tatiana]

10. This is why we need to find some way to shut them down.

They are anti-American and this channel has truly caused the disintegration of our national fabric. It's pure propaganda.

I know we have the 1st Amendment, but maybe some creative minds can figure out a way to chip away at Faux Noise's propaganda and lies.

[KPN]

31. Yes. Why aren't we as democrats doing

everything we can to accomplish that? Why aren't we fighting fire with Fire? They are overtly calling for revoking licenses for MSNBC and CNN. They covertly plan long range strategies to suffocate and extinguish liberal voices ... and all we do is complain.

When are we gonna fucking learn that this is a fucking war ... and the future of democracies throughout the fucking world depends on it?!

[AJT]

11. Hillary needs to sue Fox for a fortune and bring the

fact that they lie endlessly into the open.

[underpants]

12. They are lost without Ailes

That guy really knew how to lie.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. Drudge nothing either...bet it will work for

Some who watch/read nothing else

[L. Coyote]

15. Why is Fox so focused on urineium and the pee pee dossier?

Kudos to Blue Owl for coining the term: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9759429

[Drahthaardogs]

16. FOX news is a cancer that needs to be removed

From our country.

[mountain grammy]

18. Agree!

[SHRED]

19. Reality will cave in on them soon.

[GoCubsGo]

21. You should see Twitter.

The flying monkeys and bots are insisting that Mueller is going to be implicated in their uranium hoax. They are in for a rude awakening.

[TrollBuster9090]

23. That's the main reason I watch Fox News. Just for laughs. Especially on days when bombshell

when bombshell reports come out. I know it's a bullshit, propaganda network. But when a bombshell, anti GOP story comes out, I watch Fox to see the following things:

1. What lengths do they have to do TO AVOID talking about it? What do they have to talk about INSTEAD? How many straws do they have to grasp at to change the subject? (If they have some democratic party scandal that even has a small grain of truth to it...that's a good day for them. But if they REALLY HAVE TO SQUIRM to find something to ELSE to talk about, it's a bad day for them.)

2. I look to see how breathless they are, and how exasperated. If they can't be right, they at least can be LOUD. And Sean Hannity is LITERALLY SCREAMING at the camera these days, from the beginning monologue to the end of the show. That's a sign of real desperation.

3. I look to see how deep the ad hominem attacks are. That's also a sign of desperation.

4. Finally, I look to see if there are any cracks in the facade of pundits. Some of their panel pundits are more in the tank than others. People like Mollie Hemingway and Laura Ingram would NEVER say anything negative about Republicans and their masters, no matter WHAT they do. But there are one or two people who have a lower threshold, and, to save their own reputations, will actually start to say negative things if the scandal is bad enough. Chris Wallace and Shep Smith are the two hosts that will crack first. Charles Krauthammer is usually the first pundit that will crack. Good example: The day Trump was PRAISING KKK and NEONAZIS, Ingram and Hemingway equivocated and defended him, Krauthammer was the first to crack (%100 negative), ....but when I saw STEVE HAYES criticizing Trump, I knew they were desperate.

Fox FIRED George Will for being the first pundit to crack. A few others will be out the door soon. But it's alway fun to watch whether there will be a unified front, or cracks in the facade.


Put yes, absolutely, it's a brainwashing, propagandistic alternative universe to be sure. Here's my best example: remember that time when the GOP shut down the government after the 2012 election...JUST OUT OF SPITE because they were so pissed off that Obama won? EVERYBODY knew it was the GOP and blamed them. John McCain said "We're down to family and paid staffers" who are still with the GOP on the shutdown.

I turn into Hannity....and the fist words out of his mouth were "We're now into day three of THE OBAMA/REID government shutdown." WTF? That's right. Hannity was spinning a story to his idiot viewers that the shutdown was somehow Obama and Harry Reid's fault.

[Liberal In Texas]

24. Fox News Channel is nothing but a propaganda outlet.

Goebbels is rolling over in his grave wondering why he didn't do such a wunder job. These people are trying to create an alternate history. They are the arm of the fascist government we have descended into.

[videohead5]

25. Frank Giustra

The guy that gave 131 million dollar donation to the Clinton Foundation sold all of his interest in the Uranium One in 2007,three years before the deal was made.he's also Canadian not Russian.

[Fred Sanders]

26. Nice catch. What is lost in all this is America was on friendly terms...before the election.

How easily some folks forget history and became easily misledm

[videohead5]

30. Relations did not turn bad

Until Russia went into Ukraine.

[The Wizard]

27. It has all the

characteristics of a dangerous toxic cult, willing to commit suicide just because .......

[Grammy23]

32. I remember during the Watergate hearings there were only a few channels.

It has been too long so I don’t remember if it was carried on all the networks. I just remember watching the coverage. It was live and you could see and hear for yourself what each witness said. I wonder if we will ever have live court room proceedings for Russia gate or whatever clever name gets assigned to the 2016 election grab? We’ve seen a few hearings in front of congressional committees that were pretty interesting and enlightening.

So if there is coverage (without running commentary), just witnesses answering questions, wonder what the Fox viewers will think? Many of us have followed this for months and know a lot of the details and the players. But Fox viewers have been kept Fat, dumb and happy regarding Russia. They honestly think their man is innocent and really had nothing to do with it. Boy, are they in for a shock. I hope when all of this is revealed that there are emails, recordings, etc to prove that the tRump campaign did collude and contrive to steal the election. So obvious that even they cannot deny it. I would love to see their reaction when they find out they have been duped....bigly.

[C Moon]

33. And unless something changes politcally, that will be the future of U.S. media.

[BigmanPigman]

34. I do not watch Fux but I wonder if Steyer's ads are running

on those stations. Are they hungry enough for money to even run his NeedToImpeach.com ads? That is where they would do the most good and get more bang for their buck.

[doc03]

35. I am afraid if Trump is removed we will have an armed rebellion from the nitwits that

listen to Faux.

[GulfCoast66]

37. You cannot stage a revolution

On a Hoveround.

[doc03]

38. LOL you gotta point there nt

[Dave Starsky]

46. It's also hard to hold a weapon...

When you exist entirely as 0s and 1s on a Russian botnet.

[Beacool]

39. Yep, they do live in an alternate reality.

Donnie is just trying to deflect from his Russian cesspool, that also involves his son and various of his associates. The uranium deal was approved by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the US. The committee is composed of representatives from several US government agencies, including the State Department (nine agencies reviewed the deal). The members of the committee are career civil servants and experts in the subject matter. The heads of these agencies do not participate. The analysis and recommendations of the committee are then sent to the agency heads. Any of the agency heads could object to the deal, but has no veto power. The final approval rests with the president. Therefore, Hillary was only one the heads of one of the agencies and had no final say on the issue.

[StevieM]

41. Hey Bea!! Great to see you!!

I agree that Trump's Russia ties are appalling and their attempts to deflect the truth by making up a uranium scandal are preposterous.

That said, I still think our own FBI was much more important to the election than Putin was. The FBI became totally corrupted and deliberately threw the election to Trump. The fact that Trump and Comey later had a falling out is irrelevant.

The Republicans at the FBI wanted HRC to lose, the GOP candidate to win and Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court. They got what they wanted.

[Beacool]

45. I agree aboutb the FBI, a pox on Comey's house.

Hi, Stevie,

I hope that all is well with you. I don't know how we are going to survive through three plus more years of this ignorant and malignant troll in the WH. Even if somehow he's removed, Pence is just as bad and would probably be more effective in pushing through his agenda.

These are depressing times for the nation.

Take care,
Bea

[czarjak]

40. I'd like to hear something I don't know...

[Towlie]

42. I created a new avatar just for this occasion.

[Pacifist Patriot]

43. Yep, my husband tuned in this morning out of curiosity...

and they were covering some church removing a George Washington plaque.