Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:39 PM Oct 2017

******BREAKING NEWS****** -FIRST CHARGES FILED IN MUELLER INVESTIGATION





https://www.mediaite.com/online/breaking-cnn-reports-first-charges-filed-in-mueller-investigation/

BREAKING: CNN Reports First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation
by Josh Feldman | 8:34 pm, October 27th, 2017

CNN is reporting tonight that the first charges have been filed in Robert Mueller‘s investigation.

It’s unclear who has been charged or what the charges themselves are. Per CNN: The charges are still sealed under orders from a federal judge. Plans were prepared Friday for anyone charged to be taken into custody as soon as Monday, the sources said. It is unclear what the charges are.



IT'S CHRISTMAS
198 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
******BREAKING NEWS****** -FIRST CHARGES FILED IN MUELLER INVESTIGATION (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 OP
Here's the link: CNN lindysalsagal Oct 2017 #1
TY. It's Christmas. LOL DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #4
I know, I'm thrilled dewsgirl Oct 2017 #31
For it to be Christmas for me, it would have to be Trump. politicaljunkie41910 Oct 2017 #50
Hopefully it will be a Medieval Christmas NotASurfer Oct 2017 #66
Amen to that! Pacifist Patriot Oct 2017 #83
I'm holding off until we know who and what charges Amishman Oct 2017 #71
I wonder if this is connected to Woolsey's statement today. lapucelle Oct 2017 #2
Call me mean spirited but I hope its Iliyah Oct 2017 #3
Even if it's not Jr let him stew all weekend. Let the whole crowd worry all weekend. badhair77 Oct 2017 #13
THIS THIS THIS lindysalsagal Oct 2017 #19
Ivanka and Jared observe the Sabbath. lapucelle Oct 2017 #43
Ha. As if they really observe it Roland99 Oct 2017 #139
I think they are devout at their convenience. badhair77 Oct 2017 #140
Well, THEY know, don't they? It's only a sealed from the public. Not fr those of interest.nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #154
Junior sheshe2 Oct 2017 #57
i hope it's Donald Rump SENIOR !!!!!! trueblue2007 Oct 2017 #69
Junior & Jared Me. Oct 2017 #103
I'm betting on Flynn and/or Manafort dflprincess Oct 2017 #115
I Think You're Right Me. Oct 2017 #116
Or .. cannabis_flower Oct 2017 #128
I almost forgot about him dflprincess Oct 2017 #130
Roger Stone is melting down tonight. Qutzupalotl Oct 2017 #161
+1...think you're right ewagner Oct 2017 #176
Agreed. You don't serve a no-knock warrant on an innocent man. Manafort going to prison. sarcasmo Oct 2017 #182
Hell, innocent people get served no-knocks all the time. 7962 Oct 2017 #192
Not mean spirited, sounds patriotic uponit7771 Oct 2017 #121
Fredo ditched his SS protection. Hope they're watching him. nt DesertRat Oct 2017 #136
My money's on Manafort. Because they surprise searched his house. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #153
I hope it's Miller or Gorka. Dulcinea Oct 2017 #171
Explains the crazy obfuscation malaise Oct 2017 #5
Here we go. chia Oct 2017 #6
Lol! That's good! BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2017 #196
Nothing to see here folks. It's all fake. The Dossier has been completely refuted. underpants Oct 2017 #7
Serious question Dotarded Oct 2017 #21
The Dossier lead directly to Manafort. underpants Oct 2017 #27
from just some random readings Dotarded Oct 2017 #36
No they'll pressure him to flip on the higher ups emulatorloo Oct 2017 #47
This is exactly what should happen. 4 or 5 of these assholes should have been Nay Oct 2017 #102
I doubt any of these people are willing to go to prison for Donald Trump. emulatorloo Oct 2017 #104
I doubt it as well, since good ol' Trump is such a loyal, stand-up guy . . . . . Nay Oct 2017 #111
That's what I'm guessing. They'll Ilsa Oct 2017 #133
Jingle bells. Jingle bells. MFM008 Oct 2017 #8
All I have is Coors.....you think that would still be okay? MLAA Oct 2017 #14
Still good MFM008 Oct 2017 #51
I just got in MuseRider Oct 2017 #60
Yum! MLAA Oct 2017 #90
I'm jealous. All I have is a White Zinfandel. Cheers. nt Delmette2.0 Oct 2017 #92
Don't be MuseRider Oct 2017 #120
LOL, I have the cheap box wine, too. Delmette2.0 Oct 2017 #122
Good Morning! MuseRider Oct 2017 #180
Good Morning Delmette2.0 Oct 2017 #183
::: PUMPS FIST IN AIR ::: 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2017 #9
Nothing on MSNBC yet. badhair77 Oct 2017 #10
Just reported by Chris Hayes. mnhtnbb Oct 2017 #33
Just reported by Rachel Maddow as well emulatorloo Oct 2017 #48
Holy Mackerel Me. Oct 2017 #11
It would explain why Dotard took a dotard today. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #74
Isn't It Beautiful Me. Oct 2017 #105
A ray of hope, me. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #108
Here's A Ray For you Me. Oct 2017 #124
I always loved that one, me. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #129
I commented earlier that Mueller must have been close because Ilsa Oct 2017 #135
I'm not going to get excited until I see them all in orange jumpsuits. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #12
Im with you SM. AllyCat Oct 2017 #148
Same. This premature excitement is not for me. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2017 #162
Can you imagine the shredding going on in the resort and the tower????? lindysalsagal Oct 2017 #15
Think how he's gone off the rails in the past. badhair77 Oct 2017 #20
Good Time to invest in the manufacturers of Maalox and Depends DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #23
Do they make Depends his size? badhair77 Oct 2017 #26
I believe so. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #29
Baby Huey Model... dhill926 Oct 2017 #37
Yes............ sheshe2 Oct 2017 #79
And just introduced...Bigly absorbent! Docreed2003 Oct 2017 #82
Bwahahahahahahahhaha sheshe2 Oct 2017 #95
You owe me a nice sip of Sauv Blanc MontanaMama Oct 2017 #94
Sorry... sheshe2 Oct 2017 #98
You know it! MontanaMama Oct 2017 #147
This made me laugh out loud. badhair77 Oct 2017 #138
... sheshe2 Oct 2017 #141
Yeah, they're called.... SergeStorms Oct 2017 #157
Hells Bells are ringing. nt irisblue Oct 2017 #16
So it would seem. Berlin Expat Oct 2017 #167
I haven't heard that in ages# thanks👍 irisblue Oct 2017 #197
Just the talk of arrests is giving me hope. badhair77 Oct 2017 #17
Has to be Manafort Johnny2X2X Oct 2017 #18
Flynn and Sater (Or whatever that guy's name is.) lindysalsagal Oct 2017 #24
The name's "Sater" - Felix Sater. He worked with LOSER 45 for years, yet LOSER 45 Leghorn21 Oct 2017 #46
Wow! I got it right. Thanks! lindysalsagal Oct 2017 #53
Indeed! "Tick tock, Bayrock", as Louise Mensch starting singing months ago! Leghorn21 Oct 2017 #72
Manafort and Flynn...the noose around SHitler will tighten and in the end strangle his fraudulent Fred Sanders Oct 2017 #59
Kicking! Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #22
There's a party in my pants shenmue Oct 2017 #25
The White House has shit himself. sunonmars Oct 2017 #28
CNN saying definitely Manafort. sunonmars Oct 2017 #30
Moneys on either Manafort or money laundering. nolabear Oct 2017 #32
I'll join you . . . peggysue2 Oct 2017 #42
Lock them up! .99center Oct 2017 #34
My guess is its going to be someone minor and the charges are being brought to try and get them to cstanleytech Oct 2017 #35
Oh MY...SAY IT Aint so....Like your words...."flip on bigger fish" Stuart G Oct 2017 #49
Nope not Jr. probably someone like a secretary or someone really minor as cstanleytech Oct 2017 #100
It Begins! peggysue2 Oct 2017 #38
Regarding Gorka, Fox et al, now you know why I avoid them at all cost. Boomerproud Oct 2017 #67
IN THE BEGINNING............ northoftheborder Oct 2017 #39
Jared. I'll bet he went to Jared. milestogo Oct 2017 #40
No knock Corgigal Oct 2017 #41
Mueller Time? One can only hope so. nt madinmaryland Oct 2017 #44
I bet they are gonna charge Hillary for that email bengazi thingy that must be it mucifer Oct 2017 #45
Bobby Fuller Four - I Fought The Law(1966) IronLionZion Oct 2017 #52
Monday is my birthday. badhair77 Oct 2017 #54
Low-hanging fruit first: Jared Kushner, for perjury related to his security clearance dalton99a Oct 2017 #55
just wondering bluestarone Oct 2017 #56
Omg ..thank you please, give this country some peace! Wwcd Oct 2017 #58
Is Manafort still out of the country? SunSeeker Oct 2017 #61
Makes me wonder get the red out Oct 2017 #166
Expect maximum bugginess from DFT. GreenEyedLefty Oct 2017 #62
Heres my guess. Hornedfrog1985 Oct 2017 #63
OH to be a fly on the wall!!!! Takket Oct 2017 #188
I just turned on my TV to see this BainsBane Oct 2017 #64
Sweet, isn't it. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #93
LOCK HIM UP!!!! edbermac Oct 2017 #65
Paul Manafort I hardly knew ye. Nt BootinUp Oct 2017 #68
Dana Boente resigned today. Deputy AG of Nat Sec Nevernose Oct 2017 #70
Duty done! Ready to be a witness! Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #73
ROUND 'EM UP! (N/T) B Stieg Oct 2017 #75
this is how i see this........ Takket Oct 2017 #76
Why I think Manafort get the red out Oct 2017 #169
No wonder Trump and his Goons have been trying to change the story to that Uranium bullshit Thrill Oct 2017 #77
Where's the link for a second Rec?!!! More tuba!!! eleny Oct 2017 #78
Whoever it is Trump will humbled_opinion Oct 2017 #80
Open the champagne LittleGirl Oct 2017 #81
Trump was right!!!!! Sam McGee Oct 2017 #84
Orrin is resigning so that he can be POTUS I imho Not Ruth Oct 2017 #85
Call me greedy. I want the entire family except for Barron, no_hypocrisy Oct 2017 #86
You greedy AHole rufus dog Oct 2017 #127
My theory get the red out Oct 2017 #168
the bell tolls........... Takket Oct 2017 #87
Low level low level prepare yourselves Watchfoxheadexplodes Oct 2017 #88
Happy Halloween. Then comes Thanksgiving. Christmas. Hallelujah. Sneederbunk Oct 2017 #89
PLEASE Trump JR.. nini Oct 2017 #91
*klink* Blue Owl Oct 2017 #96
Good news. I have a better video (sorry..................) George II Oct 2017 #97
Not getting too excited Catherine Vincent Oct 2017 #99
Here we go. joshcryer Oct 2017 #101
is it too early to do THIS ? AllaN01Bear Oct 2017 #106
Duuuuude, no f ing way.. denbot Oct 2017 #107
LOCK 'EM UP spanone Oct 2017 #109
Best I've felt since 11/8!!!! Nwgirl503 Oct 2017 #110
Woo Hoo! mcar Oct 2017 #112
Happy BDay HRC! Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #113
Dont get overly excited.... DetroitLegalBeagle Oct 2017 #114
I thought the same dpd3672 Oct 2017 #118
Time for the pardon pen superpatriotman Oct 2017 #117
Maybe it's because it's Halloween, but anyone else have the fear that this is all been a big ruse OliverQ Oct 2017 #119
I've heard there are new medications now. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #126
You've been reading RW sites. I do for entertainment but you may have been drinking there. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #184
If the CNN folks are right, then Trump already knows who is being charged and what the charges are. Garrett78 Oct 2017 #123
My understanding is, and I am not a lawyer, is that Rosenstein Enoki33 Oct 2017 #142
Rosenstein SHOULD have been told, but might not have been Nevernose Oct 2017 #146
The mills of Fitzmas grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine. :-) WinkyDink Oct 2017 #125
If there really is a God... Nac Mac Feegle Oct 2017 #131
I've just heard. WOOHOO!!! lunamagica Oct 2017 #132
*Fist Pump in Air* Lifelong Protester Oct 2017 #134
Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2017 #137
As was sung in the musical "West Wing Story": WinkyDink Oct 2017 #143
Nobody likes my song..... :-( WinkyDink Oct 2017 #175
Bobby Fuller appears to have been murdered. . . Stargleamer Oct 2017 #144
The law won. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #150
I'm not getting my hopes up DSB Quayblue Oct 2017 #145
WOOHOO! Never did a cartwheel in my life but did a few tonight along with heel click ATL Ebony Oct 2017 #149
OMG! "I fought the law, and the law won." What a great Friday night surprise post! nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #151
It won't be "happy holidays".... SergeStorms Oct 2017 #152
Love it! Kath2 Oct 2017 #155
Party in the USA!!! workinclasszero Oct 2017 #156
Could be some low level stooge that worked for Trump/Pence workinclasszero Oct 2017 #158
If there is a god, please let it be Pence floppyboo Oct 2017 #159
David Gergen thinks it might be Flynn, since we know he lied to the FBI. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #160
Nobody could see that coming huh? workinclasszero Oct 2017 #163
Whoever took that picture: Thank you! Good pic. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #164
Name leaked whistler162 Oct 2017 #165
???? VermontKevin Oct 2017 #170
?????? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #173
Just going to say the guy is whistler162 Oct 2017 #198
Do not tease. This is serious business. Joking has it's place but teasing is malicious. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #185
Once there is one the rest start to fall Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #172
Dominoes effect. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #187
Here's the latest buzz... orangecrush Oct 2017 #174
It giving a 3 day head start intentional in this instance or standard procedure? Not Ruth Oct 2017 #177
According to reports the indictee hasn't been notified yet. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #178
Given how strong Muellers team is, it will not be a low level crime or someone unknown Not Ruth Oct 2017 #179
If Trump is led out of the White House in handcuffs Monday, I would cry tears of joy bearsfootball516 Oct 2017 #181
Is El Shaman Oct 2017 #186
Time stock up on popcorn Dopers_Greed Oct 2017 #189
I'm cautiously hopeful, but that's about all, at this point. Let's see how this plays out. NBachers Oct 2017 #190
It's about time! red dog 1 Oct 2017 #191
I have faith that Mueller's team has irrefutable evidence. Air tight. AgadorSparticus Oct 2017 #193
This will be Fitzmas all over again. vi5 Oct 2017 #194
But what if... ThatGuyJerome Oct 2017 #195

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
1. Here's the link: CNN
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:41 PM
Oct 2017
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politics/first-charges-mueller-investigation/index.html

The charges are still sealed under orders from a federal judge. Plans were prepared Friday for anyone charged to be taken into custody as soon as Monday, the sources said. It is unclear what the charges are.
A spokesman for the special counsel's office declined to comment.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/breaking-cnn-reports-first-charges-filed-in-mueller-investigation/

BREAKING: CNN Reports First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation
by Josh Feldman | 8:34 pm, October 27th, 2017

CNN is reporting tonight that the first charges have been filed in Robert Mueller‘s investigation.

It’s unclear who has been charged or what the charges themselves are. Per CNN: The charges are still sealed under orders from a federal judge. Plans were prepared Friday for anyone charged to be taken into custody as soon as Monday, the sources said. It is unclear what the charges are.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
50. For it to be Christmas for me, it would have to be Trump.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:11 PM
Oct 2017

I'm sorry, what can I say, but I have high expectations. Lock him up. Lock him up.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
71. I'm holding off until we know who and what charges
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:25 PM
Oct 2017

I still worry that Mueller is in Trump's corner, since he was picked by Trump's AG office and is a Republican.

Hit an obvious target with weak charges will tell us one thing.

Drop the hammer hard on someone still active in Trump's circle would tell us another.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
192. Hell, innocent people get served no-knocks all the time.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 02:57 PM
Oct 2017

One reason I think they should be totally illegal.
Obviously THIS instance is a bit different, but LEO showboating covers all levels

Dulcinea

(6,631 posts)
171. I hope it's Miller or Gorka.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 05:53 AM
Oct 2017

Evil Nazis, both of them. Miller belongs in prison. I could definitely see him as someone's biaatch.

underpants

(182,818 posts)
27. The Dossier lead directly to Manafort.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:58 PM
Oct 2017

Welcome to DU

bots
Flynn
Carter Page
Cohen

Some directly some indirectly but it was basically the beginning of the whole thing.

 

Dotarded

(23 posts)
36. from just some random readings
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:03 PM
Oct 2017

Will they just make him the sacrificial lamb on this though?

Throw the book at this asshole and we all just skip away into the sunset

emulatorloo

(44,130 posts)
47. No they'll pressure him to flip on the higher ups
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:09 PM
Oct 2017

That's how these things work. Mueller has an expert on this team on pressuring indicted folks to flip. They will threaten him w prosecution and offer a deal if he will cooperate w the investigation

Nay

(12,051 posts)
102. This is exactly what should happen. 4 or 5 of these assholes should have been
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:09 PM
Oct 2017

identified as nervous, knowledgeable and willing to flip. I assume they are being followed right now to assess flight risk. I'd actually be surprised if they aren't picked up by Sunday night.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
133. That's what I'm guessing. They'll
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:10 PM
Oct 2017

Charge manafort with serious crimes to get him to plead out in return for giving up the bigger fish.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
120. Don't be
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:35 PM
Oct 2017

it is cheap box wine. LOL!

It is my desert every night. Just to take the edge off of my exhausting days. Puts me to sleep too.

I think in addition to this news I may sleep better than I have for almost a year, I think we all will.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
180. Good Morning!
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 09:17 AM
Oct 2017

I hope you slept well!

I just woke up at 8, hours later than I have lately. It feels good to sleep when you think the nightmare may be starting to end. The sleep of the hopeful but wary....it was not a perfect one but it sure was better!

Delmette2.0

(4,165 posts)
183. Good Morning
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 09:33 AM
Oct 2017

A good night's sleep works wonders. I just have to stay busy so the weekend passes quickly. I am glad Mueller's work is showing results.

badhair77

(4,218 posts)
10. Nothing on MSNBC yet.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:46 PM
Oct 2017

Someone on CNN mentioned the charges may have been filed so the person does not flee.
Hmmm . . .

Gergen says we may have to wait all weekend for the identity but he does say a charge of money laundering would send activity thru the White House.

Sounds like it will be a long weekend.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
105. Isn't It Beautiful
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:11 PM
Oct 2017

We've a long way to go with all of this but wait........what is that sound........ice cracking?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
135. I commented earlier that Mueller must have been close because
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:12 PM
Oct 2017

the target was "getting buggy," as Malcolm Nance says.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. I'm not going to get excited until I see them all in orange jumpsuits.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:48 PM
Oct 2017

I would like to be optimistic, but it's just too painful to get my hopes up only to have them shattered by the corruption of the republican party.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
162. Same. This premature excitement is not for me.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 01:15 AM
Oct 2017

I'll definitely be happy to see the mug shots, if they ever come. But, yeah, unless it ends up with a bunch of these monsters in prison, I'm not going to be thrilled.

badhair77

(4,218 posts)
20. Think how he's gone off the rails in the past.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:52 PM
Oct 2017

Will they take his phone from him? Surely he's going to want to lash out.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
18. Has to be Manafort
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:50 PM
Oct 2017

This would be the story of the decade in any other administration, but this is just the start.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
46. The name's "Sater" - Felix Sater. He worked with LOSER 45 for years, yet LOSER 45
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:08 PM
Oct 2017

claims not to know the guy. Hmmmm

Also, Sater's father was/is a big mucky-muck with SEMION MOGILEVICH. Imagine that!!

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
72. Indeed! "Tick tock, Bayrock", as Louise Mensch starting singing months ago!
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:26 PM
Oct 2017

Well, we shall see!!

Man, I can hardly breathe this evening!!!

Pardon my !!!!!!!!!!, gal!

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
59. Manafort and Flynn...the noose around SHitler will tighten and in the end strangle his fraudulent
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:18 PM
Oct 2017

election "win".

.99center

(1,237 posts)
34. Lock them up!
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:02 PM
Oct 2017

Mueller's trending with 200k tweets within the hour! Was this info leaked to create panic among the traitors in the WH?

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
35. My guess is its going to be someone minor and the charges are being brought to try and get them to
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:02 PM
Oct 2017

flip on bigger fish.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
49. Oh MY...SAY IT Aint so....Like your words...."flip on bigger fish"
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:10 PM
Oct 2017

..do you think that can happen??...a small fish, flips on a larger one, and then a larger one flips on the largest ones..

Yes...indeed that is how it works. seen it in the past. and guess what...the small fish do indeed flip, because the small ones get a deal..so they don't go to jail, or go to jail much less than the bigger fish..now..who do you suppose the big fish they are really after?..can you guess. I can the big one is two letters and a period..

...............................Jr.. .........................................

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
100. Nope not Jr. probably someone like a secretary or someone really minor as
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:04 PM
Oct 2017

the investigation still has a long way to go.

peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
38. It Begins!
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:03 PM
Oct 2017

And now we know the why of all the shrill performances from Fox News and the Trumpettes, calls for Mueller to resign and Comey's treachery. Accusations against Hillary Clinton--Sebastian Gorka went so far today as to call for her execution--has been a smoke screen, another diversion. The craziness this week is about their panic, their legal jeopardy, their conflicts and compromised positions.

Carter Page was interviewed for 5 hours today by Muller's team. Paul Manafort is being looked at for money laundering, no doubt looking at an indictment. Mike Flynn as been on the hot seat for months. The list goes on and on and on, spiraling right to the top.

Monday should be a very interesting day. Buckle up!

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
67. Regarding Gorka, Fox et al, now you know why I avoid them at all cost.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:22 PM
Oct 2017

Dear Sebastian has gone over the edge into Alex Jones territory. On Monday I expect Fox to "go black"../

dalton99a

(81,512 posts)
55. Low-hanging fruit first: Jared Kushner, for perjury related to his security clearance
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:15 PM
Oct 2017

If so, a pardon would be signed

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
61. Is Manafort still out of the country?
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:19 PM
Oct 2017

The FBI told him he was going to be indicted, then he buggered off to Kurdistan.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
166. Makes me wonder
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 05:00 AM
Oct 2017

Do any of these guys have to choose between life in prison or flipping and being served some radioactive tea?

 

Hornedfrog1985

(118 posts)
63. Heres my guess.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:19 PM
Oct 2017

Cohen, manafort, flynn all get arrested at the same time monday. Theyre all offered the same deal, but only 1 guy gets it. First one of you to talk, no lies, gets to live the rest of their lives not behind bars. Boom, slam the door. The piranhas would tear themselves apart. They were all in that meeting.

Takket

(21,573 posts)
188. OH to be a fly on the wall!!!!
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 10:48 AM
Oct 2017

When those tough talking wimps get on their knees and beg for their pathetic little lives!!

Bonus option: Hillary has to be in the room when they confess and they have to sincerely apologize to her to get immunity!!!

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
70. Dana Boente resigned today. Deputy AG of Nat Sec
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:25 PM
Oct 2017

And the federal prosecutor for the East District of Virginia.

Can’t be a coincidence.

Takket

(21,573 posts)
76. this is how i see this........
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:27 PM
Oct 2017

1. Mueller has an absolute slam dunk conviction on whoever these charges target
2. That person has the goods of drumpf, and Mueller knows it.
3. That person will soon be presented with an offer: Roll Drumpf for immunity, or spent the rest of your life rotting in a cell.

I've seen a lot of people let their reputations be trashed in exchange for helping this fuck face, but i can't believe anyone is foolish enough to accept life in prison.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
169. Why I think Manafort
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 05:10 AM
Oct 2017

They have so much on him, and he is important enough to have some serious goods on the trump gang.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
80. Whoever it is Trump will
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:29 PM
Oct 2017

respond by assigning a special prosecutor to uncover HRC Campaign and DNC collusion with Russia over the dossier. They will try and muddy the water they are all trying to do it now trying to compare the two things and say they are the same thing.

 

Sam McGee

(347 posts)
84. Trump was right!!!!!
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:32 PM
Oct 2017

During the campaign, Trump warned me . . . he said if I vote for Hillary, the president will be under investigation from Day One!!!

I voted for Hillary . . . and . . . you know the rest.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
168. My theory
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 05:06 AM
Oct 2017

The closer this gets to Trump, the more likely he will see divorce papers. Melania has never looked a very happy wife.

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
88. Low level low level prepare yourselves
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:34 PM
Oct 2017

I'm betting low level probably crime caught up in original investigation.

We have all seen the burst our bubbles from the trump cabal.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,923 posts)
114. Dont get overly excited....
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:24 PM
Oct 2017

Friday news dump with Monday arrest? My guess it's only Manafort or some low level lackey. If it were higher ups it would be a 11am Monday morning press conference.

 

dpd3672

(82 posts)
118. I thought the same
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:32 PM
Oct 2017

It struck me as a way to control the news cycle all weekend long. If it were anything big, they wouldn't be waiting until Monday...it's not like the FBI gets weekends off work. The more I think about it, the more it seems like a Hail Mary pass than the end game of a year long investigation.

Who knows, it's politics, but the timing smells funny to me.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
119. Maybe it's because it's Halloween, but anyone else have the fear that this is all been a big ruse
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:35 PM
Oct 2017

and Mueller is actually working against America like the rest of Republicans and he's going to try to destroy Hillary and the Democrats to protect Trump?

Total conspiracy, but these days seems like things can only get worse.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
184. You've been reading RW sites. I do for entertainment but you may have been drinking there.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 10:00 AM
Oct 2017

Franks should know better.
FFS. Trump HIRED Mulehead to do the job. Trump KNEW he wasn’t guilty of anything.
Some on our side can’t see the forest for the trees.
Mulehead is about to break open the biggest scandal since the Rosenbergs.

15 posted on 10/27/2017, 4:07:48 PM by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))

(Note: LS (Larry Schweikart) knows Bannon to speak with.)


To: LS

Exactly. Mueller pretended to go after Trump, and got the big media playing his game. They gained nothing by it, but lost a lot of viewer confidence. No Mueller is about to turn around and go after the Clintons. That’s why all the media are now saying he has to quit. Because he’s threatening to go after the real facts and tell the truth.

Mueller did no harm to Trump. He distracted the media and put them on a losing trail. So, Fox and WSJ and all the rest of the left wing media are furious at having been deceived like that and put in a position where Hillary is the real suspect.

25 posted on 10/27/2017, 4:15:19 PM by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
123. If the CNN folks are right, then Trump already knows who is being charged and what the charges are.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:43 PM
Oct 2017

Because Rosenstein would have been told, and I'm sure he would have told Trump.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
142. My understanding is, and I am not a lawyer, is that Rosenstein
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:19 PM
Oct 2017

certainly would have been told indictments were handed down, but not necessarily have the individual/s or charges identified. Especially as Mueller is aware of his questionable whitehouse ties as the reason for sealing could be surprise.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
146. Rosenstein SHOULD have been told, but might not have been
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:29 PM
Oct 2017

Improbable, hypothetical, pure speculation:

According to procedure Mueller was supposed to inform Rosenstein before running the final pass before the Grand Jury,

But if he didn’t? That’s an administrative issue, not a criminal one. A grand jury returned an indictment, full stop. Who was informed who, when, in the prosecutor’s office, is irrelevant to the charge itself or what the GJ found. It would be grounds for terminating Mueller, but not for dismissing the charges.

Again: just playing what-if.

Another what-if: What if they’re just giving Trump a weekend to stew? To think and panic and give himself away? To resign with dignity? That last part, of course, is predicated entirely on the assumption that anyone in DC believes Trump even understands the concept of dignity.

Nac Mac Feegle

(971 posts)
131. If there really is a God...
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:01 PM
Oct 2017

It's Pence on child pornography charges.....He is too vehemently anti-gay not to be in a closet of some kind.

The Cheetoh will shit his colon inside out in terror.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
143. As was sung in the musical "West Wing Story":
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:20 PM
Oct 2017

The most beautiful sound I ever heard:
Indictments, Indictments, Indictments, Indictments…
All the beautiful sounds of the world in a single word . .
Indictments, Indictments, Indictments, Indictments…
Indictments!

Indictments!
I’ve just gotten word of indictments!
And suddenly I feel
That justice might be real
Today!

Subpoenas!
I’ve just read there will be subpoenas!
And suddenly I know
That Mueller will not go,
But stay!

Indictments!
Say it loud and there’s grown men crying;
Say it soft and you hear Rachel sighing.

Indictments.
I’m eager to see more indictments!

The most beautiful sound I ever heard.

Indictments.


ATL Ebony

(1,097 posts)
149. WOOHOO! Never did a cartwheel in my life but did a few tonight along with heel click
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:37 PM
Oct 2017

Popcorn's popping. Off to listen to news reports. OMG, got a permanent smile plastered across my face. This is like music to my ears.


WTG Mueller -- keep up the good work.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
152. It won't be "happy holidays"....
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:44 PM
Oct 2017

until the Orange Asshole is behind bars.

Sorry, I just to practice my own "war on christmas" before the holidays come around. I've made a personal vow that I won't say that phrase the entire holiday season, just to piss in Trump's eggnog.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
158. Could be some low level stooge that worked for Trump/Pence
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:20 AM
Oct 2017

They will put the screws to him and make a bargain. Get out of jail card free in exchange for solid evidence of Trump/Pence selling out the USA to Putin's Russia!

Let the indictments begin!!

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
159. If there is a god, please let it be Pence
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:51 AM
Oct 2017

he would so go for immunity and discredit himself at the same time.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
172. Once there is one the rest start to fall
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:13 AM
Oct 2017

You target the ones you need to flip first to give them a chance to sing- but that they went ahead with indictments means they have the whole thing mapped out now and just picked the players they need to turn.

orangecrush

(19,563 posts)
174. Here's the latest buzz...
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 08:09 AM
Oct 2017

"The likely next steps in the investigation now have many concluding that Trump campaign officials like former manager Paul Manafort, current White House officials like Jared Kushner, former White House officials like National Security Advisor Mike Flynn, and/or members of Trump’s family, like Donald Trump Jr., could be preparing to surrender to federal agents as soon as Monday morning."






https://qz.com/1114432/whats-being-said-on-twitter-about-robert-muellers-indictments-in-the-trump-russia-probe/


 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
179. Given how strong Muellers team is, it will not be a low level crime or someone unknown
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 09:11 AM
Oct 2017

People on Mueller’s team did not give up their jobs to indict a nothingburger. I would say that Manafort and higher is their target and that Trump himself might be indicted Monday. There is always time to scoop up the small fish later. Mueller’s top people are not needed for that.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
181. If Trump is led out of the White House in handcuffs Monday, I would cry tears of joy
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 09:27 AM
Oct 2017

But that isn't happening. It'd give it a 50 percent chance it's a small fish meant to bring in bigger fish, and the other 50 percent is Flynn or Manafort.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
193. I have faith that Mueller's team has irrefutable evidence. Air tight.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 03:23 PM
Oct 2017

I also have faith that the scumbags associated with TrumpRussia are in it for themselves. Their #1 priority will be to save their asses. I can't imagine that they will put their necks on the chopping block for friendship or loyalty. They don't look like that kind of people to me.

This is why all the trump mouthpieces are out there frantically screaming gibberish. Gorka is absolutely unhinged. Deranged. Almost as if HIS own ass is on the line.

I am cautious but I think these scumbags have every reason to worry. They should be sweating BIG bullets.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
194. This will be Fitzmas all over again.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 04:51 PM
Oct 2017

Or it's going to be some low level admin or something to that effect.

 

ThatGuyJerome

(15 posts)
195. But what if...
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:20 PM
Oct 2017

What if this doesn't go our way though? The fact nothing else got leaked is kind of worrying me. And Dana Boente resigned? What does he know?

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»******BREAKING NEWS******...