Both sides of climate change debate are valid, argues new U.S. ambassador to Canada

[turbinetree]

President Trump’s newly appointed ambassador to Canada believes in “both sides” of the debate surrounding climate change.

U.S. ambassador Kelly Craft, who assumed her new duties on Monday, told the CBC that she believes there is merit to both arguments in favor of the existence of climate change and those countering the belief that the phenomenon is fueled by human beings.

“I think that both sides have their own results, from their studies, and I appreciate and I respect both sides of the science,” Craft said, adding that she feels each side has presented “accurate” data. She declined to say whether or not she herself was inclined towards one side or another.

Craft, the first woman to serve in her position, is a businesswoman, philanthropist and major donor to the Republican Party. She is also married to Kentucky coal magnate Joe Craft, who actively criticized the climate policies of the Obama administration. He is the president and CEO of Alliance Resource Partners LP — one of the largest coal producers in the eastern United States.


https://thinkprogress.org/climate-denial-canada-f1c079162a72/


BULLSH*T

[quartz007]

1. every 15,000-20,000 or so years

we get an ice age, which is then followed by global warming which thaws all that glacier ice produced during ice age. This has been going on much longer than human origins on earth.

[maxsolomon]

3. wow, good point.

"welcome to DU"

[DavidDvorkin]

4. Heh.

[quartz007]

5. I have lived in Iowa and Florida

The winters in Iowa were brutal. Going to grocery store after workday was simply awful. During the summers in Florida, I can go shopping after sundown. It is not brutal.

Next ice age is going to kill a big chunk of humanity living north of 23.5 deg latitude. Ditto for the southern hemisphere. Global warming will also kill lot of people but far less than the ice age. I think the dinosaurs vanished during a particularly harsh ice age. The cold made them too sluggish to hunt for food.

[maxsolomon]

9. wow, good point

we actually know what killed the dinosaurs, and it wasn't "sluggishness".

[quartz007]

11. Do you have a youtube video link,

showing what made the biggest land creatures go extinct?
If not it is based on conjecture.

[maxsolomon]

12. there is no youtube of the asteroid strike

that ended the Mesozoic era. because it happened 66,000,000 years ago.

there is boundary clay all around the planet, however.

are you forgetting to use or something?

[quartz007]

13. Where do you get that sarcasm icon?

It is cute... Of course I was being sarcastic about the youtube thing. I hope it was obvious and did not need
the sarcasm tag.

Even idiots know Dinosaurs existed very long long long ago. And that was my point, it is pure conjecture to say why or how dinosaurs went extinct. Asteroid strike? Hahaha Anyone who says they know the reason is either bluffing, or guessing or believes in Santa Claus. My conjecture is very serious ice age. At least I am honest
to declare it is conjecture, as opposed to know it all's.

[edhopper]

14. Maybe you should base your conjecture

on science rather than right wing talking points.

[califootman]

15. Such as...

This:

https://geology.utah.gov/map-pub/survey-notes/glad-you-asked/ice-ages-what-are-they-and-what-causes-them/

Note the last ice age before the one we are currently in ended almost 200 million years ago. (Yes, we live in an Ice Age! Fortunately we are in an inter-glacial cycle that should last another 5,000 to 20,000 years... and maybe much longer with what we are doing to the planet).

[edhopper]

19. replied wrong poster.

[maxsolomon]

20. type colon sarcasm colon

know-it-alls are what the rest of us call scientists.

[maxsolomon]

2. The Party Line

I think they have to sign a Non-Disparagement Clause with Exxon-Mobil.

[spanone]

6. another science denier...fuck this mal-administration

[smirkymonkey]

21. Well, look who she is married to. What can you expect.

These people are all so corrupt. It makes me absolutely sick!

[Skittles]

7. translation: climate change is real, but making money is more important than climate change

[VOX]

16. Bingo. n/t

[Solly Mack]

8. Fuck people like her.

[peggysue2]

10. There are no two sides . . .

to this argument, anymore than there were two sides during the cigarette smoking causes cancer days. The Merchants of Doubt who swore up and down that cigarettes were not involved in health risks are pushing the same tactics in Climate Change denying--muddy the waters with faux facts and protestations. Some of the same people defending the Tobacco Kings are, in fact, involved in the Climate Change battle.

As they were lying then, they're lying now. For the sake of industry profits.

[oasis]

17. She'll have 3 years of snickering behind he back while in Canada.

Enjoy your stay.

[VOX]

18. Yes, and the Earth is simultaneously round and flat.

Because both sides have their results and each side is accurate.

How long is this nightmare of blind, hateful ignorance going to last? Rather, how long is AMERICA going to last?