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WHITEFISH: "In no event shall [government bodies] have right to audit or review the cost & profit.." (Original Post) kpete Oct 2017 OP
Taking the swamp to Puerto Rico HopeAgain Oct 2017 #1
+1000 Cryptoad Oct 2017 #3
This is the privatization you can read about in treestar Oct 2017 #2
Lock them up! rockfordfile Oct 2017 #4
When did the GOP do away with ,,,,, Cryptoad Oct 2017 #5
When they won all 3 branches of Government ? OnDoutside Oct 2017 #9
That's my question. shraby Oct 2017 #14
Iraq War...Halliburton... Wounded Bear Oct 2017 #20
This is the story that we should focus on Tom Rinaldo Oct 2017 #6
Smelling very fishy. tanyev Oct 2017 #7
Please do not be offended..but....Rotten Fish smell better than this deal.. Stuart G Oct 2017 #8
Outright thievery. dalton99a Oct 2017 #10
Is the full name of that company "Coney Island Whitefish"? Ken Burch Oct 2017 #11
I haven't heard that in years..& yeah I think I agree. irisblue Oct 2017 #25
Corruption. Brought to you by the tRump-Republicon kleptocracy. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #12
I hope somebody can sue them over the contract NewJeffCT Oct 2017 #13
You would probably end up suing the person that signed the contract Not Ruth Oct 2017 #28
how is that even legal? mopinko Oct 2017 #15
mf'ng Duppers Oct 2017 #16
Someone should get one of the hired gun workers to say how much they are making... Thor_MN Oct 2017 #17
K&R MontanaMama Oct 2017 #18
K&R smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #19
$332 per day for a room? Are they staying at a Trump hotel? (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 2017 #21
And the Federal Government signed this contract malaise Oct 2017 #22
When I heard about the tomg Oct 2017 #23
Yup. Me too. pangaia Oct 2017 #30
This is actually typical of disaster response contracts Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #24
Yeah, I don't know enough to make a call on those numbers dpd3672 Oct 2017 #26
Maybe..... Plucketeer Oct 2017 #32
a thousand bucks to fly there? Skittles Oct 2017 #35
Did anyone sign this contract yet? Not Ruth Oct 2017 #27
Even Sawmp is embarrassed by these creatures Pepsidog Oct 2017 #29
And just how BillyBobBrilliant Oct 2017 #31
There is corruption, and there is this: Absolute corruption world wide wally Oct 2017 #33
Zinke already suspect because of travel escapades. Sneederbunk Oct 2017 #34

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. This is the privatization you can read about in
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:21 AM
Oct 2017

Shock Doctrine. Government is incompetent and the private sector can do it better. However, we the taxpayers have to make sure they make a profit. Whenever there is a disaster like this, they move in to make the money off of us. And they are often tied to people in the administration i.e. Halliburton.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
5. When did the GOP do away with ,,,,,
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:59 AM
Oct 2017

the old governmental practice of requiring bids on contracts????

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
6. This is the story that we should focus on
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:06 AM
Oct 2017

It is so simple to understand. It is the swamp, it is cronyism, it is exploiting those most in need after a natural disaster. Anyone can get this. No one can defend it. I hope Rachel spends a half hour covering this scandal.

Stuart G

(38,449 posts)
8. Please do not be offended..but....Rotten Fish smell better than this deal..
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:21 AM
Oct 2017

Can you imagine if Obama had made a deal like this??

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
17. Someone should get one of the hired gun workers to say how much they are making...
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:12 AM
Oct 2017

If they find out what the bill out rates are, they may be willing to talk. I doubt they are taking home half what Whitefish is charging for them.

Whitefish should be investigated with the same intensity that Whitewater was.

malaise

(269,187 posts)
22. And the Federal Government signed this contract
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:40 AM
Oct 2017

LOCK THEM THE FUCK UP!

This most be the most brazenly corrupt bunch in history

tomg

(2,574 posts)
23. When I heard about the
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:53 AM
Oct 2017

Whitefish contract and the abysmal non-response by the government to the crisis in Puerto Rico the first thing that came to my mind was Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
24. This is actually typical of disaster response contracts
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 10:55 AM
Oct 2017

Been there, done that.

As an example, $79 per person per day for food may sound excessive. But when you account for them having to be fed in a location where the grid is iffy and infrastructure isn't there so they can't just go to a restaurant. So they have to provide the logistics that delivers 3 meals a day, plus potable water, plus things like Gatorade given the nature of the work all to workers on an island with no infrastructure.

Even if you go the cheapest route and use MRE's (and you really don't want to do that the whole time) if you provide 3 full, quality MREs with heaters, 3 bottles of Gatorade and a dozen bottles of regular bottled water you are at around $40 in just materials. Now account for transporting costs first from the supplier to the port or airfield, transport costs to the island, and the costs of running the logistics chain all over the island to all your workers to distribute it and your are probably in the $60-70 per person, per day cost to feed them easily. And I didn't mention the logistics of providing ice to all them too in a remote location where you can't just buy it at a convenience store, doing that physical labor they need cold drinks in that climate. Just the logistics of ice can be more complicated than most people grasp.

It's not like taking a scout troop to McDonalds, it's a pretty complicated endeavor to keep a bunch of people fed in an operation like this.

 

dpd3672

(82 posts)
26. Yeah, I don't know enough to make a call on those numbers
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:01 AM
Oct 2017

But you're also at the mercy of opportunists gouging as well. The guy who's got a generator chilling a fridge full of Gatorade might be charging $20 a bottle, so you can't really allow for a $2 bottle in the contract. Housing is also probably in high demand, with emergency workers competing with displaced locals for a warm, dry place to sleep The amount for housing might be a hotel room, or it might be a fraction of the cost to get a trailer to the location.

Everyone tries to make a buck in situations like this, I doubt anyone's hands are completely clean.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
32. Maybe.....
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:22 AM
Oct 2017

......FEMA still has a bunch of those formaldehyde-reeking trailers from Katrina they could lend to the effort. Those shitty trailers smack of this contract for grid renewal. How long will it be before the story of the f**king of Puerto Rico is a feature on 60 minutes?

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