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The Big WaPo Story & Why Everyone Needs to Thank Marc Elias
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The Big WaPo Story & Why Everyone Needs to Thank Marc Elias
Look back at almost countless articles on the so-called Steele Dossier and youll find the same basic account. The project began as an opposition research project funded by Republicans during the GOP primaries when, of course, there were Republicans with an interest in finding damaging information about Donald Trump. After Trump sealed the GOP nomination, Republicans had no desire or interest in funding this research. So Democrats agreed to start footing the bill.
Is this new? Not really. Here is I believe the first reporting on what we now know as the Steele Dossier. Its an October 31st (2016) report from David Corn in Mother Jones, reporting how a veteran spy had provided information to the FBI about a Russian operation to cultivate Donald Trump.
In any case, theres a big effort now to present this as somehow being a scandal in itself, or discrediting Steeles sleuthing. That is ridiculous. Is it really a scandal that Democrats helped fund research into Donald Trumps illicit ties to Russia after Republicans donors decided they didnt care anymore?
Not really.
The Trump team wanted to deliver for Russia right out of the gate in January, a quick series of accommodations and a grand bargain with Vladimir Putin. It was the investigation into Trumps ties to Russia that got in the way and mainly prevented it. Its clear that Steeles research played a major role in that. Remember, the FBI found it so critical it agreed to continue funding Steeles research. Without Marc Eliass decision, that research may never have been conducted. The country owes him a debt of gratitude.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)pretty irrelevant.
when they do this shit they have 1500 radio stations to pound it and dems do nothing. just turn limbaugh on
(who is probably the best guy working for putin) and multiply by a few hundred other national and local blowhards and that is what the base is hearing and that is what they are screaming at their reps. reps who are desperately trying to save their asses and looking for any excuse. limbaugh has been saying for months the dossier is a hoax made up by a clinton/obama deep state cabal trying to take down trumpo and this is 'proof'. (like the russiian-hacked east anglia emails weere proof that global warming was a hoax).
truth and what thinking americans think is irrelevant as long as we ignore their giant buzz machine - all they need is to keep that near-captive audience trump base keeping their reps fropm breaking ranks long enough for trump to do more damage.
the grassleys and nunez and other republican shits in congress are going to be able to use this to help delay and obstruct even more and all because they have that talk radio advantage the left and dems stupidly give to them, merely by ignoring it.
to get trump out, americans merely need to start protesting all rw radio stations and the universities that broadcast sports on them until that monopoly/psyops thats short circuiting democracy falls apart.
Glorfindel
(9,736 posts)lostnfound
(16,191 posts)The poisoned disinformation flowing into the weak minds on the right is the problem.
certainot
(9,090 posts)that shit we wouldn't have to wait for billionaires.
if one uni started looking for apolitical alternatives others would have to follow, and advertisers would head for the hills.
the monopoly couldn't last - they're already $20 bil in debt.
to get trump out, americans merely need to start protesting all rw radio stations and the universities that broadcast sports on them until that monopoly/psyops thats short circuiting democracy falls apart.
Yes, and media like Talking Points Memo need to either monitor and censor comments immediately when posted -- or follow MSNs lead and eliminate comment sections after stories -- to just fucking eliminate Russian bots and trolls.
orangecrush
(19,624 posts)The right is spinning out of control.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)orangecrush
(19,624 posts)Fascism always seems to play itself out, it will not stand.
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Tyranny will flourish when truth and reason are muted.
(Well known sentiment even if my turn of phrase isn't verbatim.)
orangecrush
(19,624 posts)karynnj
(59,504 posts)Opposition research is normal and they clearly refrained from putting things out that they could not verify. Note Republicans do not have a high ground here. In their case, they have supported groups and allied media just making stuff up.
The one quibble would be that as soon as asked, Elias should have confirmed they paid.
CanonRay
(14,119 posts)Mueller. That is all.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)And remind the naysayers that they were very, very wrong.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)ATL Ebony
(1,097 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)how to run a campaign. I would prefer they be loud and proud about how patriotic it is to truly vet an opposing candidate, especially one who is clearly dangerous. That would really make me see our Dems differently.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)garybeck
(9,942 posts)the dossier could be a trick or a red herring. if its credibility fails, the whole investigation goes down. how convenient.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Where's the profit in it? And I imagine agent Steele will turn out to be Alexy Vladislavski of Peyerkhaski, Belarus . . .
Hekate
(90,835 posts)...things have been proven to be true. They don't talk about the Kompromat, is all. Steele is known to have worked for the British CIA (MI6?) -- I trust Rachel's version of events.
As for the "mess" in Trump's bed -- he was in the Presidential Suite, so called because the Obamas had stayed in it and slept in that bed. For the price of a new mattress, the Russians got some priceless footage of Trump at least watching the show, and Trump got to enact a revenge fantasy of degrading and debasing the Obamas.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)and she is very credible but I have to say that everything about the Steele dossier sounded bogus from the get-go, including agent Steele, and nothing has surfaced to suggest otherwise. It's a campaign artifact and the campaign is over. In the big scheme it's not that important except that it has the effect of discrediting more urgent claims, and will surely be exposed as a hoax at some moment convenient to the Trump administration. So caveat emptor.