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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 11:54 AM Oct 2017

Paul Ryan just defecated in the Sacred Red Hat. "US lawmakers will not tackle healthcare this year"



Republican lawmakers will not take up a bipartisan plan to stabilize Obamacare insurance markets or try again to repeal and replace the law this year, House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan said on Wednesday, signaling his party was shelving the matter until the 2018 U.S. congressional election year.

President Donald Trump promised as a candidate last year to dismantle Obamacare. While the House passed such a bill last May, the Senate tried but failed to do so in July and September thanks to deep intra-party divisions and fears that millions of Americans would lose their healthcare coverage.

“I think that is something we should do next year,” Ryan said in an interview with Reuters when asked about prospects of the House passing a bipartisan bill that would reinstate federal subsidies to private insurers to help lower-income people buy medical coverage through the Affordable Care Act, dubbed Obamacare.

Asked whether the seven-year Republican effort to repeal and replace Obamacare was now dead, Ryan responded, “No.” But he added, “I can’t imagine we can do that this year.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/us-lawmakers-will-not-tackle-healthcare-this-year-ryan-says/



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Paul Ryan just defecated in the Sacred Red Hat. "US lawmakers will not tackle healthcare this year" (Original Post) Miles Archer Oct 2017 OP
republican stinkbombs flying every which way Achilleaze Oct 2017 #1
Ryan will not be able to stop ejaculating when his tax plan takes effect, endless tax cuts Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #2
Would not trust him dembotoz Oct 2017 #3
They have already tackled it BeyondGeography Oct 2017 #4
Time for "tax reform" but not for healthcare market stabilization Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2017 #5
"This year" awesomerwb1 Oct 2017 #6
So the subsidies for 2018 are still cut, then. Cal Carpenter Oct 2017 #7
Yeah, I'm not laughing, either. Ryan just managed to kill the ACA while pinning it on catbyte Oct 2017 #8
Yeah, they fucked me over too Cal Carpenter Oct 2017 #9
Exactly. This is deadly for some if this is the final word. Tom Rinaldo Oct 2017 #10
There's the deal eleny Oct 2017 #11
It's not just a 'meme' Cal Carpenter Oct 2017 #13
Doesn't matter , it all about reducing taxes on the wealthy doners. Whether by kacekwl Oct 2017 #12

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. republican stinkbombs flying every which way
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 11:56 AM
Oct 2017

It sucks to be a Casino Hustling republican Draft Dodger with a deplorably long track record of fake and fail.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
2. Ryan will not be able to stop ejaculating when his tax plan takes effect, endless tax cuts
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 11:58 AM
Oct 2017

for the rich and dead poor people everywhere.


If nobody else is going to become ENRAGED over it, why do I bother?

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
6. "This year"
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 12:12 PM
Oct 2017

Keywords: this year. Like when a Dreamer asked him in a town hall scenario earlier thsi year if they would deport her and he said: "But if you’re worried some deportation force is coming and knocking on your door this year, don’t worry about that.”

They'll keep trying and they may eventually succeed if they succeed in killing the ACA.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
7. So the subsidies for 2018 are still cut, then.
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 12:12 PM
Oct 2017

Through executive order, Trump has managed to wreck some of the most effective aspects of the ACA, and congress has no plans to undo those actions and secure the subsidy payments. Who needs to repeal and replace when the original legislation barely had teeth and Trump has been able to unilaterally undermine it?

I fail to see the humor. Am I missing something?

catbyte

(34,398 posts)
8. Yeah, I'm not laughing, either. Ryan just managed to kill the ACA while pinning it on
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 12:26 PM
Oct 2017

the orange shitstain. That's a big win for Ryan, a big loss for me & everybody else depending on those subsidies. No way am I going to be able to afford my insurance in January on a fixed income. Fuck all of them. They fucked me over, but good.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
9. Yeah, they fucked me over too
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 04:14 PM
Oct 2017

I think, even around here, there are people who forget that these policies have real impact on real people.

As you say, congress doesn't even have to take credit for it. They get what they want - failure of ACA - and they don't have to take the blame.

Fuckers, every last one of them.

I don't know what to expect when I log on to the exchange in a couple weeks. It's gotten worse every year since year 2 as it is, and this time it may put us out of insurance again. From what I understand, the insurance companies can hike the premiums way up if the subsidies aren't coming their way

eleny

(46,166 posts)
11. There's the deal
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 04:36 PM
Oct 2017

They can disable the ACA for several months and then push the meme that it's failing. And people believe it because they want to believe it. That's what Ryan knows he can bank on. It's disgusting. And it's not leadership, it's murderous.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
13. It's not just a 'meme'
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 06:11 PM
Oct 2017

And people believe it because the real-world impacts are very crucial and immediate.

It is failing, in part, because it was never robust enough to function as implied. There was always the promise to 'fix it later' because everyone involved knew it had fatal weaknesses. I don't want to revisit the debates about it of 10 years ago, because this isn't my point, and obviously the current problems are the result of sabotage by Trump and the repubs. Of course I totally agree with you regarding Ryan and his ilk.

I just want to emphasize that the this isn't just about abstract things like 'memes' and 'beliefs', this is real life. My spouse and I could very well lose our insurance in January depending on what the magic 8 ball of the ACA exchange reveals for us next month. We are currently lucky enough to be in decent health so we're better off than many of the other millions of people who were finally insured (at least on paper) and are now, quite likely, having that taken away.

I guess I'm just asking for a little sensitivity about using words like 'memes' and 'beliefs' when people's lives are at stake. Because I'm not usually all that sensitive but the knot that has been in my stomach since Trump signed that EO just keeps getting tighter whenever I see people focused on the partisan optics or whatever rather than the real impacts.

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
12. Doesn't matter , it all about reducing taxes on the wealthy doners. Whether by
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 05:44 PM
Oct 2017

the despicable tax plan or Trumpcare the rich will get theirs.

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