Judge denies bail for 5 teens in deadly I-75 rock-throwing incidentFLINT, MI - The five teenagers ac

[Siwsan]

Good.

FLINT, MI - The five teenagers accused of throwing more than a dozen rocks from a highway overpass - including one that pierced a van's windshield and killed a 32-year-old Mt. Morris man - were arraigned in court on Tuesday, Oct. 24, on second-degree murder and other charges.

The teens were arraigned before Genesee District Judge William H. Crawford II on Tuesday, Oct. 24 on charges of second-degree murder, conspiracy to commit second-degree murder, malicious destruction of property and other felony and misdemeanor charges in connection with the death of Kenneth A. White.

Families for both White and the suspects were in the courtroom as Crawford read off the charges for each suspect.

Crawford denied bail for all five citing "the seriousness of the nature of these charges and the danger to the public."

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2017/10/teens_appear_in_court_after_ro.html

[dalton99a]

1. Good. They are a menace and should be put away

[PJMcK]

2. Well, there is that pesky thing called due process

Right now, the defendants are accused of numerous crimes. The State now needs to prove the indictments' charges.

If the accused are convicted, then I'm with you, dalton99a. Trash needs to be thrown out.

[Siwsan]

4. I am half expecting to hear some plea deals will be worked out

The 17 year old is the one who threw the fatal rock. I'll be kind of surprised if they all go to trial.

[PJMcK]

6. You're probably correct

But these kids are dangerous as demonstrated by their alleged outrageous acts.

[LisaM]

7. They should all go to trial, because any one of them could have thrown a fatal rock.

More than a dozen rocks were allegedly thrown from over the Dodge Road overpass along southbound Interstate 75 and struck multiple vehicles, including the van White was traveling in. The rock that struck that vehicle punctured the windshield and led to his death, authorities say.


Judge denies bail for 5 teens in custody in deadly I-75 rock-throwing incident
White's family declined to comment on the incident Tuesday, Oct. 24.

The teens are due back in court on Nov. 2.

Genesee County Sheriff Robert Pickell previously said tires and an engine piston also were thrown from the Farrand Road overpass onto I-75, roughly three miles north from where White was killed. Several other vehicles sustained damage, including flat tires, from items thrown onto the interstate.

[Leith]

3. GOOD!

What they did was vicious and premeditated. Throw the book at them.

[Yavin4]

5. If they were Black, the word, "Savages" would be used repeatedly to descrbe them. n/t

[a kennedy]

13. and I'm so sorry to even think this......thank you guys for being white.

I know, should never think this.......but d*mn you're so right about if they would have been black.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

8. Wait for the "they were just misguided

Good grades, school activities, never ran into trouble"

Yada yada yada

[rainin]

10. Oh and what about their future?

And their moms never taught them right from wrong. And their parents were too affluent. They need to go to a retreat where they can spend a year riding horses and sitting by the pool while they work out their problems. (sarcasm)

[fierywoman]

11. ...captain of the football team ...

[smirkymonkey]

9. I hope the little bastards all do jail time.

Even if only one of them threw it, the others were accomplices.

[WinkyDink]

29. They're being tried as ADULTS and face life in prison!

[smirkymonkey]

31. Good.

They deserve it.

[murielm99]

12. They went to McDonald's after killing a man.

To celebrate?

[7962]

14. Really? Wow, what pieces of shit. Scumbag thugs. Put 'em away. nt

[murielm99]

16. This is not the first time

something like this has happened. I remember someone throwing a cement block off an overpass. It may have been more than fifteen years ago. The guy killed a young man with a family. The murdered man was driving home from work.

There was a witness. The murderer went to jail.

[7962]

19. I was a lot luckier years ago; only tires were hurt

Lost 2 tires to some type of stuff tossed off an overpass. Several others did too. But no one was injured. Now there are fences on every overpass

[TexasBushwhacker]

21. This was a case from 2014

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The wife was hit with an 8 lb rock. She had severe brain damage and lost an eye. Sadly, he husband committed suicide 2 years later.

http://people.com/crime/husband-of-woman-injured-by-thrown-rock-dies-in-apparent-suicide/

[KY_EnviroGuy]

15. At least six families' lives ruined.

Juvenile testosterone run rampant with follow-the-leader actions. Brings back memories of stupid stuff I did as a kid.

Would be interesting to see their social media texts before this incident.

[murielm99]

17. I did stupid stuff when I was a kid, too.

There was some vandalism that I am still bothered over. But I never endangered anyone's life or killed anyone.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

25. Yes, we were country kids playing pranks. Hurt more feelings than property.

I think we at least had moral boundaries back then (50s & 60s) that may not be there anymore. We need to somehow reverse that, assuming it's the case.

[SaschaHM]

18. I hope they get the rehabilitation (and jail time) that they need.

The deserve lots of jail time, but at their age and the charges, they all will eventually get out even if they have to serve 25-30 years. And the world would be better off if they aren't hardened and unemployable when that happens.

[TexasBushwhacker]

22. Manslaughter will get them 15 years in Michigan

Then there are the other charges. It's a wonder they only killed one person.

[raccoon]

20. I hope the deceased man's family brings a civil suit against their families. Nt

And if they have any assets, I hope his family gets a substantial chunk.

[Honeycombe8]

24. The families aren't liable for the evil intentional acts of their kids in most states, I think. nt

[unblock]

26. my quick googling suggests that parents are liable for intentional damage, but only up to $2,500.

in order to get more, you would have to show the parents were negligent, e.g., in this case, they knew the kids did this sort of thing and they didn't try to stop them.

under michigan law, anyway. other states have different laws.

[Honeycombe8]

23. I hope they get the maximum, whatever that is. If they're tried as juveniles, the max isn't much.

What kind of evil exists in a person to do such a thing. Saw pic of the deceased man on tv...his young wife crying. A sudden senseless death. The man leaves a young wife and four small children. At least it seems he didn't suffer. The big rock went thru his car and hit him in the head and chest. Horrible.

[jmowreader]

35. Theyre being tried as adults

I’d say fifty years in prison sounds about right.

I know...as a liberal I am supposed to see the good in everyone and seek rehabilitation for them. Problem is, we have finite resources and there are plenty of kids we can help. I would much rather save those we can, and lock up people like these punks who we probably can’t. That they killed a guy then went to eat burgers means we’re dealing with five potential Donald Trumps. By the time we’re that far along there may not be anything left to save.

[Honeycombe8]

36. I agree. Sociopathic behavior.

I am getting long in the tooth, but I remember being a teen like it was yesterday. How I thought about things (or not), how I behaved, how others behaved. No kid I knew, no matter how bad, would have done such a thing. And I would have been aware that it could seriously hurt or even kill someone. The property damage alone would've prevented me from doing that for fun. The "bad kids" robbed vending machines. Not stuff like this.

[Sneederbunk]

27. Are the teens mad at God?

[marked50]

28. We had a similar thing happen in Albuquerque years ago.

I tried to find out the details on-line and was unsuccessful, but I did find an interesting link on this subject in regards to its' frequency, especially around the world, and the responses to it.

https://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Criminal%20rock%20throwing

[WinkyDink]

30. They're being tried as adults. Do not confuse "youthful stupidity" with "criminal deviance."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9744980

[Stuart G]

32. How can someone do somethinglike this, and not think they are going to seriously hurt someone?

They knew they were going to hurt someone. Why?

[Skittles]

33. that is what I do not understand

yes, kids do stupid things but this is intentionally trying to endanger lives, it is horrific

[romanic]

34. I hate to sound old (since im only 30)

But I've noticed "Gen Z" as a whole to be pretty apathetic to other people. I know Im broad brushing here but these jackass kids probably thought throwing rocks in the highway would cause a crash to laugh at. Im honestly surprised they didnt Facebook Live it for attention.

[Blue_Adept]

37. It's all generations

I mean, look at the casual way the majority of people are looking at events in Puerto Rico and numerous other instances. These kids see the apathy across the board from many. Hell, the way things just dissipated after Vegas makes that clear.