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elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 10:06 AM Oct 2017

Re: Mueller - a friend who retired from the IRS just told me that

A friend who retired from the IRS just told me that Mueller has added the two top IRS financial crimes specialists to his staff. These two people are experts in money laundering and international financial crimes.

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Re: Mueller - a friend who retired from the IRS just told me that (Original Post) elehhhhna Oct 2017 OP
Is there a website where Mueller lists all of his staff and their credentials? Not Ruth Oct 2017 #1
Here's a list as of Sept. He has added more since then Wwcd Oct 2017 #4
Good info WWCD radical noodle Oct 2017 #9
Thanks. I'd be curled up in a sobbing heap if any of thes people were looking at me! Wwcd Oct 2017 #16
Very nice Wwcd rock Oct 2017 #18
Hello! Wwcd Oct 2017 #31
They are going to nail Trump's butt to the wall vlyons Oct 2017 #34
Woeee Zowee Me. Oct 2017 #2
... shanny Oct 2017 #3
True. Trump is so dirty, if they don't get him on one crime there're plenty more to choose from Wwcd Oct 2017 #22
+++Yes this - Mueller probably doesn't care if Cheeto gets impeached FakeNoose Oct 2017 #24
Hope you're right. nt Lucky Luciano Oct 2017 #41
Going to kick some major booty. oasis Oct 2017 #5
Seems like certain tax documents will be produced for them. librechik Oct 2017 #6
Oh My! malaise Oct 2017 #7
I think we already knew that, right? You might want to not identify... Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #8
I am confused with your post, who are you responding to? 33taw Oct 2017 #10
ehhhhhhhh. Follow the line by my post to see what the post is responding to. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #14
I don't think it's a leak, and I don't think it's a secret in certain circles that these folks have elehhhhna Oct 2017 #23
Meuller offered this list himself. He knows Trumpets are squirming like maggots Wwcd Oct 2017 #32
I realized that you were trying to respond to the OP, but the response does not make sense to me. 33taw Oct 2017 #50
I'm sure of a few things. machoneman Oct 2017 #11
That's why I expect a Trump-created war attempt soon. C Moon Oct 2017 #13
Tax cuts, which will make all Repubs in country orgasmic and grateful to Trump. Then later a war.nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #52
Indictments by whom? The Trumpean DOJ with a henchman at the top (confirmd in committee by Dems)? Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #17
Questions DownriverDem Oct 2017 #20
The grand juries can indict and Mueller is a Special Prosecutor bigbrother05 Oct 2017 #21
Reports that Meuller has assembled at least 7 GJ's around the country Wwcd Oct 2017 #25
Any credible link? Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #29
I guess Federal and state grand juries are separate. Or can one indict at both levels? Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #28
I don't have a lot of knowledge as to that area. Perhaps someone here can answer that. Wwcd Oct 2017 #35
I believe the GJ is seated where the crime was possibly comitted Wwcd Oct 2017 #51
Yes, there are different/separate laws for each that could yield indictments bigbrother05 Oct 2017 #53
His limited NYC view of things. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #26
That is very true of New Yorkers. murielm99 Oct 2017 #40
It's been my observation that they are vastly more PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #42
YAY-lets hope they find the smoking gun VaBchTgerLily Oct 2017 #12
I'm pretty sure Mueller already has the evidence he needs FakeNoose Oct 2017 #27
Good news wryter2000 Oct 2017 #15
Yes, but DownriverDem Oct 2017 #19
From what I read, there won't be enough Repubs left in Congress to protect Trump Wwcd Oct 2017 #30
I wonder if people like Corker and Flake murielm99 Oct 2017 #45
Quite possibly the case. Seems they are wavering on offering loyalty or cutting the cord Wwcd Oct 2017 #46
I find their leaving and stated reasons for doing so encouraging whathehell Oct 2017 #49
I don't think they have the cojones LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #33
I hear you. We'll have, President "I knew nothing" Pence & VP "He never listened to me" Ryan. Sunlei Oct 2017 #38
I think that the closer Meuller gets, the louder trump's tantrum will become. Wwcd Oct 2017 #36
oh great the IRS vs (R)ichie Riches adds 20 years time to investigation. Sunlei Oct 2017 #37
ho hum Scruffy1 Oct 2017 #39
Can they nail Nunes, Ryan, McConnell and Rohrabacher too? BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #43
Follow the money The Wizard Oct 2017 #44
He better hurry the fuck up Juliusseizure Oct 2017 #47
Seriously. Mike Niendorff Oct 2017 #48
 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
1. Is there a website where Mueller lists all of his staff and their credentials?
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 10:07 AM
Oct 2017

I would find it interesting.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
4. Here's a list as of Sept. He has added more since then
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 11:18 AM
Oct 2017

These are the best in the business with a background the should make anyone of trump's associates more than nervous.

These people are the ones that bring down mob families.

https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/special-counsel-robert-mueller-assembled-team-16-seasoned/story%3fid=50186443

Special Counsel Mueller has assembled a team of 16 seasoned prosecutors
By ALEX HOSENBALL, MIKE LEVINE and PIERRE THOMAS
Sep 29, 2017, 5:18 PM ET

"In addition to a squad of agents from the FBI and the IRS, Mueller has 16 attorneys on staff, a spokesperson for Special Counsel Robert Mueller confirmed to ABC News, but only 14 of them have been identified publicly."

Here's a brief list of their remarkable bios, read more at link.

Zainab Ahmad is an attorney on detail from the Eastern District of New York. Ahmad made a name for herself prosecuting terrorist suspects in New York, including Lawal Babafemi and Najibullah Zazi, the would-be al-Qaeda subway bomber.
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Greg Andres, a former partner at Davis Polk, is a former deputy assistant attorney general in the Justice Department’s Criminal Division and an assistant U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York. Andres is a Justice Department veteran specializing in financial crimes.
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Rush Atkinson is an attorney on detail from the Criminal Division’s Fraud Section,
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Michael Dreeben is an appellate attorney on detail from the Office of the Solicitor General, where he’s served since 1995, including a stint under now-Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan. He is thought to have an encyclopedic knowledge of criminal law and has argued over 100 cases in the Supreme Court.
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Kyle Freeney is an attorney on detail from the Criminal Division’s Money Laundering and Asset Recovery Section.
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Andrew Goldstein is an attorney on detail from the Southern District of New York. Preet Bharara’s Public Corruption chief, Andrew Goldstein received the Director’s Award from the Bharara in 2015.
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Adam Jed is an appellate attorney on detail from the Civil Division. A former clerk for U.S. Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens, Jed received the Attorney General’s Award for Exceptional Service in 2014.
(He won) a major victory for LGBT rights against the Defense of Marriage Act.
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Elizabeth Prelogar is an appellate attorney on detail from the Office of the Solicitor General. Prelogar reportedly joined the Mueller probe in June. She previously clerked for both Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan and earned an Overseas Press Club Award for work studying Russian media
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James Quarles is a former partner at WilmerHale and a former assistant special prosecutor for the Watergate Special Prosecution Force.
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Jeannie Rhee is a former partner at WilmerHale who has served in the Office of Legal Counsel and as an Assistant U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia. Mueller’s appointment of Rhee has brought the ire of conservative commentators, owing to her 2015 defense of the Hillary Clinton in a case regarding her emails,
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Brandon Van Grack is an attorney on detail from the National Security Division. He served as Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General at the National Security Division before joining the Eastern District of Virginia as a Special Assistant to the US Attorney for national security and international crime.

Andrew Weissmann is an attorney on detail from the Criminal Division’s Fraud Section, who has served as general counsel at the FBI under Director Mueller and as an Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York. Before joining the FBI, Weissmann oversaw the Enron Task Force from 2002 to 2005, including the prosecution of Jeffrey Skilling, Kenneth Lay and Andrew Fastow. Before that, Weissmann served in the Eastern District of New York’s U.S. Attorney’s Office, where the Justice Department says he was “instrumental in bringing to justice high-ranking members” of New York’s toughest crime families.
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Aaron Zebley is a former partner at WilmerHale who has previously served with Mr. Mueller at the FBI and has served as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia.
"Before his time at the FBI, Zebley investigated national security matters for the US Attorney’s office in Alexandria, VA and as a FBI Special Agent in the Counterterrorism Division."
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Aaron Zelinsky is an attorney on detail from the District of Maryland. Before Zelinsky’s appointment to the Mueller team, he worked under the man who appointed Mueller special counsel – Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.
"While in Maryland, Zelinsky earned an award for Excellence in Prosecution of Organized Crime. Additionally, Zelinsky has clerked for retired Justice John Paul Stevens and Justice Anthony Kennedy of the Supreme Court. H"
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Reading the bios of these few, should give a good idea as to where Mueller is going with his investigation.
Others have been added since this writing.

Anyone with Trump ties should be crapping themselves with even a couple of these attorneys eyeballing them.
There are others working behind the scenes such as Preet Bharara & NY AG Eric Schneiderman & their teams.
Best in the business of prosecuting & convicting International Organized Crime .


 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
31. Hello!
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 01:39 PM
Oct 2017

Struggle some days to keep the faith, but this team assembled by Mueller helps. I re-read this list like a prayer anymore.


 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
3. ...
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 11:16 AM
Oct 2017


I think the most likely charges will be found in this area. Collusion may be tough, but this shouldn't be. It's what the tRump empire is all about: dishonest and shady financial dealings.
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
22. True. Trump is so dirty, if they don't get him on one crime there're plenty more to choose from
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:47 PM
Oct 2017

Bye Trumpelicia 😚

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
24. +++Yes this - Mueller probably doesn't care if Cheeto gets impeached
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:54 PM
Oct 2017

Mueller wants his ass in jail, and he's getting everything he needs to do it.
Nine ways to Sunday - down for the long count.


Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. I think we already knew that, right? You might want to not identify...
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 11:33 AM
Oct 2017

your friends with that much specificity. Unless it's a lie. In which case, that's fine. (This admin. is going after leakers.)

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. ehhhhhhhh. Follow the line by my post to see what the post is responding to.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:02 PM
Oct 2017

Responding to the OP.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
23. I don't think it's a leak, and I don't think it's a secret in certain circles that these folks have
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:50 PM
Oct 2017

I don't think it's a leak, and I don't think it's a secret in certain circles that these folks have been brought on board

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
32. Meuller offered this list himself. He knows Trumpets are squirming like maggots
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 01:42 PM
Oct 2017

in the sun whenever he announces a new addition to his team.

33taw

(2,444 posts)
50. I realized that you were trying to respond to the OP, but the response does not make sense to me.
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 08:47 PM
Oct 2017

Also, what does ehhhhh mean? Are you upset that someone asked for clarification rather than just assume what you meant?

Personally, I believe the list was knowingly leaked. The lawyers are public contract employees, so their names are not that big of a secret.

Thanks

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
11. I'm sure of a few things.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 11:57 AM
Oct 2017

-Trump didn't think he would win.

-Because of that, his entire shady life history was laid bare.

-By now, not understanding with his limited NYC view of things, he thought at first this would all be brushed aside.

-Now, he's in a quandary he can't fix. No amount of lawyers can undo the ceaseless efforts of Federal prosecutors to uncover all sorts of misdeeds.

-His head must be exploding more and more each day, witnessed by the above post where Mueller's team almost daily releases not details but word of more and more hires that have been added, going after even the tiniest minutiae of his past and current dealings.

-Expect more Twitter eruptions as the noose closes on him, his family and his entire business empire.

Can't wait for multiple indictments to fly!!!!

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
13. That's why I expect a Trump-created war attempt soon.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:01 PM
Oct 2017

That's always the answer for the GOP when they are in power: sweep things under the carpet by starting war. And thousands of innocent people will pay the price.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
52. Tax cuts, which will make all Repubs in country orgasmic and grateful to Trump. Then later a war.nt
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 07:15 PM
Oct 2017

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. Indictments by whom? The Trumpean DOJ with a henchman at the top (confirmd in committee by Dems)?
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:08 PM
Oct 2017

By Congressional committees with Republican henchmen at the helm? The FBI, with a Republican henchman at the top (confirmed by Democrats, no less)?

Mueller? Mueller alone, against several committees and Trump agencies, all stacked with henchmen and moles? Mueller, himself a Republican who was interviewed by Trump for the administration,notwithstanding his honorable reputation?

Maybe. Never say never. But I think there's a reason why Lindsay Graham and others keep referring to the next three years of Trump's term and the 2020 election.

I continue to hope, though. All is not lost yet.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
25. Reports that Meuller has assembled at least 7 GJ's around the country
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:54 PM
Oct 2017

, to handle the indictments. NY, Miami, CA, (maybe AZ) , etc.

I am putting full faith in Meuller, since I know absolutely nothing next to his fine skilled team.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
35. I don't have a lot of knowledge as to that area. Perhaps someone here can answer that.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 02:03 PM
Oct 2017

Its an interesting question.

I was particularly pleased to read the bio on this addition:

Kyle Freeney is an attorney on detail from the Criminal Division’s Money Laundering and Asset Recovery Section. In 2016, she was part of a Department of Justice team seeking to recover over $1 billion from an alleged corrupt Malaysian sovereign wealth fund.

"ASSET RECOVERY " !!! You hear that Trump!!

As in, You're gonna lose your Ass! Cuz you're an Ass!


 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
51. I believe the GJ is seated where the crime was possibly comitted
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 08:55 PM
Oct 2017

Since this is multi State, why we see several jurisdictions out of NY.
My guess is the other States would be where Trump owns or has sold properties that evidence shows RICO, tax issues or whatever.

This is my best guess as to how it works

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
53. Yes, there are different/separate laws for each that could yield indictments
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 03:06 PM
Oct 2017

Many have noted that even if Dotard pardons everyone, it will only apply to Federal charges, not state level ones.

Mueller has GJs in NYC & DC US Districts for sure. Possible that others could be in other Districts in VA & FL where we know of campaign/real estate activities. NY outside of NYC, MD, NJ, & PA are other possibilities as well. Again, states hosting Trump properties could come in with money laundering, racketeering, conspiracy, etc. charges going back to the statute of limitations for the allegations.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
26. His limited NYC view of things.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:57 PM
Oct 2017

That's important to understand about him. With all due respect to NYC residents (and I love that city, have visited it less often than I'd like, and I'd actually love to live there for a year if I could) those who have lived their entire lives there simply do not understand to what extent they have a narrow view of things. And Trump is very much the worst of that kind, because he has zero interest in anything outside himself, doesn't feel that he needs to learn anything ever, and has gotten away with his bullying his entire life.

I just hope that in the end Mueller and his team will actually bring about indictments. I am so afraid that this is going to be another huge disappointment.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
40. That is very true of New Yorkers.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 07:30 PM
Oct 2017

I love the city, too. I went to college with people who lived there. My brother lived and worked there for about eight years.

They accuse the rest of us of being provincial. Actually, they are. It is funny to watch and listen to some of them when they get out into the other parts of the country. Mostly, they are good people. They must be! Look at how much they despise trump.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
42. It's been my observation that they are vastly more
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 08:52 PM
Oct 2017

provincial than many others.

They think that they have everything possible in the city. Well, they do have every kind of ethnic food, but they don't have forests, they don't have vast prairies or canyons or mountains. They don't have small towns that are miles from anywhere.

Again, I do love NYC and would like to spend more time there, and I can understand why people might want to live there permanently, but it is not the center of the universe and does not have absolutely everything.

I've lived in a number of different places in my life, and I'm very glad I have. I can compare and contrast different cities, different parts of the country. Anyone who has only lived in one or two places can't do that.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
27. I'm pretty sure Mueller already has the evidence he needs
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:59 PM
Oct 2017

Mueller isn't working to impeach Trump. He's bringing him to justice and putting him in jail.
Cheeto has been breaking laws his whole career and hiding behind an army of lawyers.

This is going to be so much fun to watch!

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
15. Good news
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:02 PM
Oct 2017

But when is something going to come of this? Do we have to wait until a nuclear bomb lands on Guam?

DownriverDem

(6,229 posts)
19. Yes, but
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:21 PM
Oct 2017

Will the repubs end the investigation? That's what I am concerned about. All we hear is that folks are tired of hearing about trump and the Russians. Of course this comes from trump and his toadies.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
30. From what I read, there won't be enough Repubs left in Congress to protect Trump
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 01:32 PM
Oct 2017

Pence, Ryan, McConnell, Goodlatte, Nunes, etc, when Mueller is ready to issue the indictments he has waiting.
I believe his mission is to prove the whole sorry lot of them at one time.
No pardons, no cover left to hide.

Last night reading reports that initial indictments will be plenty & all at the same time, the rest of the bunch could easily take up to two years.

There are so many involved & crimes are varied & based on international intel, so its a long process.
No doubt

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
45. I wonder if people like Corker and Flake
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 11:07 PM
Oct 2017

are leaving because they are unwilling to protect 45 et al. They were loyal, conservative, but not criminals. But they have limits to what they will do.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
46. Quite possibly the case. Seems they are wavering on offering loyalty or cutting the cord
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 11:21 PM
Oct 2017

We don't know the consequences Trump or even Bannon holds over disloyalty but I'm sure Corker & Flake know!

Trump prides himself in destroying people.
Bannon is a backstabbing lunatic.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
49. I find their leaving and stated reasons for doing so encouraging
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 08:56 AM
Oct 2017

When major Repubs start turning n him, I think it's he beginning of the end for him.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
33. I don't think they have the cojones
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 01:57 PM
Oct 2017

Although it wouldn't shock me if they tried.

Sometimes I do wonder if Mueller is milking this, stretching this out, being a loyal Republican. Much like Comey did with Clintons email investigation. In order for his Republican cohorts in the House and Senate to do as much damage as they can to the country first using Trump as cover. But my paranoia sensibilities are easily triggered these days.

But I think they are all waiting, like us, for Muellers investigation to finish. And then depending on what comes of that when the dust settles. If Mueller can only manage to pin the wrongdoing on a few bad apples that surrounded Donald they will argue that poor Donald was a newbie and didn't quite know the rules, was taken advantage of etc.. and so should be vindicated. And further, they, along with Trump, will go on the offensive and declare that this proves it was all a witch hunt (by Soros, the Clintons, and the secret Democrat controlled "deep state"..)

And only if and when Trump is irredeemably and politically tarnished with solid case(s) of criminal activity, will they change course. "But but but, we had NO idea DT was so terrible!"

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
38. I hear you. We'll have, President "I knew nothing" Pence & VP "He never listened to me" Ryan.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 07:15 PM
Oct 2017
Americans will still be screwed for decades.
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
36. I think that the closer Meuller gets, the louder trump's tantrum will become.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 02:12 PM
Oct 2017

They aren't giving up this power they have without a fight to the bitter end.

Ignore the fit & expect more of "nothing to see hear", propaganda.
Just because that stuff worked to get them in power, it doesn't mean it'll work in keeping them there.

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
47. He better hurry the fuck up
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 11:25 PM
Oct 2017

Not a criticism, but if the GOP retains majorities and a bunch of Trump loyalists get elected, they'll just put everything he produces in a shredder. It will all be for naught.

If Trump consolidates power, and 1 or 2 very elderly Supreme Court justices are replaced, democracy is finished. McConnell's already packing the federal courts.

Mike Niendorff

(3,462 posts)
48. Seriously.
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 08:20 AM
Oct 2017

And let's also not forget that even the best case scenarios still rely on legit voter rolls and a legit vote-count in 2018 -- which I think are *very* questionable at this point.

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