Government shutdown likely to happen in December.

[DetlefK]

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/23/16492584/government-shutdown-explained

Don’t look now, but it’s becoming a real possibility that the government will shut down in December. Congress has until midnight on December 15 to pass a spending bill or the federal government will run out of money.

The tricky thing is that Republicans need at least eight Democrats in the Senate to meet the 60-vote threshold needed to pass a bill, which means they will need to make some serious compromises to get a spending bill through.

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Once Obamacare repeal failed, the only major item on Republicans’ agenda for the rest of the year was supposed to be tax reform. But then Trump announced his administration planned to sunset the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, putting upward of 600,000 unauthorized immigrants in limbo; and that it would end the Affordable Care Act’s subsidy payments, a move that will increase premiums for Americans and dig a deeper hole in the national deficit. Trump is forcing Congress’s hand to act, but he hasn’t given a clear or realistic policy directive on immigration or health care.

Congress also keeps putting off negotiations on key policies, like the now-expired federal Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP).

“These are all crises being created by congressional Republicans or the president,” one senior Democratic leadership aide said.

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"There's a lot of must-pass pieces of legislation that require Democratic support to get them over the finish line, and Democrats have made it clear that if the DREAM Act is not addressed ... they're not going to have any Democrats to get them over the finish line," Rep. Michelle Lujan Grisham (D-NM), chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, told reporters.

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Sens. Patty Murray (D-WA) and Lamar Alexander (R-TN) introduced a bipartisan health care deal last week in an effort to stabilize the Affordable Care Act’s exchanges by funding key insurance subsidies, while giving states more flexibility on Obamacare’s regulations.
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It’s highly possible Democrats will use the spending deadline as an opportunity to force Republicans to vote on the bill — and keep Obamacare working as intended.

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CHIP is typically an easy lift, but Republicans keep pushing back negotiations, so this program, too, could land on the long list of Democratic demands come December.

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For example, Democrats have made it clear that they will not allow funding for the southern border wall that Trump has insisted on since taking office. Every effort to defund Planned Parenthood has also been met with organized Democratic opposition.

And with the recent natural disasters in Florida, Texas, Puerto Rico, and California, there is already talk of increased relief funding, which fiscally conservative Republicans have grown increasingly reluctant to sign on to.

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But as with all bills, the final say on the budget is Trump’s. He has to decide whether he will sign anything short of his campaign demands. And it seems he has been less concerned with the prospect of a government shutdown than Republicans leaders are.
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In May, Trump was reportedly talked out of vetoing the 2017 spending bill over a lack of wall funding. At this point, it’s anyone’s guess whether the president would sign on to a deal that still doesn’t fund the wall but does fund Obamacare subsidies and offers a path to citizenship for DACA recipients — or any one of those.




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Question: Would Trump be okay with the Democrats shutting down the government, just to spite Obama and keep sabotaging Obamacare?

[Angry Dragon]

1. No one knows what is in that mind

[OnDoutside]

2. Yes, of course he would.

[samnsara]

3. just curious.. if we had single payer right now.. would a gvnt

shut down effect that?

[DetlefK]

4. Depends on how it's laid out:

In Germany, there is one tightly-regulated company per state responsible for providing single-payer for the whole state. They are their own company, with their own budget and their own administration and offices.

IIRC they are regulated in that they may not discriminate for pre-existing conditions and that are only allowed to make this much profit. If they make too much profit, they have to lower prices.

[LiberalArkie]

10. Profit before or after salaries?

US insurance pay outrageous executive salaries to lower the profit.

[milestogo]

5. More time to GOLF!

[Achilleaze]

6. Comrade Casino* has pissed on so many people that...

I think he and his republican & russian cronies bigly underestimate how little support they have with Americans.

* republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

[former9thward]

7. It will not be shutdown.

Neither party will want the blame for a shutdown during the holiday period. And both parties would get the blame no matter how much they finger pointed at each other.

[FSogol]

8. Why would both parties get the blame? The GOP controls the Executive and Legistlative branches.

The American people will blame the correct party.

[former9thward]

9. They need Democratic votes.

If all Democrats vote No there will be plenty of ammunition for blame. I am a political realist not a blind partisan.

[FSogol]

11. I have history on my side. When it shutdown in 1995, the American people correctly blamed the GOP

and did not blame Democratic President Clinton.

:

"I am a political realist not a blind partisan."

[former9thward]

12. The "American people" are not one voice.

So, no, the "American people" did not blame the GOP. Whether the majority did depends on what poll you look at but regardless of that the GOP kept control of the House in the following elections and elections after that. So what difference did the "blame" make?

[democratisphere]

13. Just in time for Christmas. redumbliCONs are such a giving lot, of BS.

[Deb]

14. The "Do Nothing" Republican Congress would be responsible for a shutdown

The ball is in their inept hands for passage.

[NightWatcher]

15. Let the Grinch shut down everything right before Christmas 🎄

That just might be enough to kill the GOP. Stand strong DEMS!