Do we ever say shit as stupid as Republicans do?

[SnohoDem]

I mean really.

I don't mean a comment on DU. I don't mean a bad choice of words, like Obama's recent, "You didn't do that" speech. His meaning was clear, but some speechwriter should get an earful. I mean stuff that liberals, progressives, Democrats put out there in public. Not misspeaking, not a poorly written speech, but just plain stupid, dumbass shit.

Do we ever say shit as stupid as, "If the gov't had helped with Noah's Ark it wouldn't have gotten built" or "Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon"? This stuff is just stupid on its face. One uses mythology to argue against reality and the other is just a gratuitous and easily countered insult.

I had a 'conservative' friend and he used to send me those right wing chain emails. I've never gotten a left wing chain email. Maybe they exist, but I've never gotten one. I used to delete them but after a while I got tired and started deconstructing them and explaining the propaganda and lies in my replies. We're no longer friends. I can live with that.

(originally a long rant, but I tried to pare it down)

[FarLeftFist]

1. No. We find it hard to enter into bizarro-land like the RW does. We like factual data & research.

They like hyperbole & distortions.

[sweetloukillbot]

2. The only ones I can think of

Are the Congressman who said something about too many people on an island causing it to tip over. I don't remember who it was, and I don't know if it was a joke, but it sounded mighty stupid at the time.
And of course Cynthia McKinney had some stupid moments as well.

[Tx4obama]

3. Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.)

Story and video here: http://washingtonscene.thehill.com/in-the-know/36-news/3169-rep-hank-johnson-guam-could-tip-over-and-capsize

And I read in another article elsewhere: Johnson has Hep-C and that causes confusion.

[SnohoDem]

4. Fair enough

Hank Johnson (the island guy) is a representative from Georgia. Watching youtube, there's no question that Hank Johnson sounds like an idiot - if that was humor, his deadpan was too good. I remember that McKinney was very controversial, but until she attacked a guard, I don't remember much stupidity. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I just don't remember.

Johnson's comment is right up there with O'Reilly's, "The moon, the tides, you can't explain that", or whatever the exact quote is.

Interesting that both representatives you mention are from the same district.

[Tx4obama]

5. The Republican Party has MANY MANY MANY more nuts than the Democratic Party

Dingy female Republicans:

Sarah Palin (AK), Michele Bachmann (MN), Orly Taitz (CA), Sue Lowden (NV), Virginia Foxx (NC), Jan Brewer (AZ), Sharron Angle (NV), Debbie Riddle (TX), Nikki Haley (SC), Christine O'Donnell (DE) Victoria Jackson, Ann Coulter

Nutty male Republicans

Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Mark 'Appalachia' Sanford (SC), Rand Paul (KY), Louie Gohmert (TX), Carl Paladino (NY), Jim DeMint (SC), Rick ‘Syrup-Cuddlin’ Perry (TX), Herman Cain (GA)

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A couple nutty Democratic males that I can think of off the top of my head:

2012 Presidential candidate Vermin Supreme (D-MA), Former Governor Rod 'The Hair' Blagojevich (D-IL), Former U.S. Representative Eric ‘The Tickler’ Massa (D-NY)

[SnohoDem]

8. Thanks,

Vermin Supreme is a performance artist, so I really think we should ignore him. Massa sounds a little nutty, but I gotta go with him on single payer if nothing else. Blago is a given, and I forgot Trafficant.

Expanding from my op, which as I said was originally quite long and I edited brutally, is it that Republicans are REWARDED for saying stupid shit? Do liberal mouthpieces get away with this kind of stuff? It seems like Thom Hartmann said something stupid a few months ago. I read about it here - Democrats, liberals, called him on it. But my conservative 'friend', a longtime software engineer and technically, at least, not a stupid guy, thought Glenn Beck should run for president back when Beck was spouting bizarre conspiracy theories that sounded like paranoid fantasies.

[Politicalboi]

6. We have the whole media

And others, who for some reason pronounce Boehner Bainer. If one doesn't understand what Obama said, it should be pointed out, make them the fools. They need to be called on it.

[TouchOfGray]

7. How about "my Twitter account was hacked" that was meant to be a DM

It was supposed to be private.

[SnohoDem]

10. That was just a lie.

He was trying to get away with putting his weiner out there. Dishonest, but not crazy. Did you see the tweet from Gingrich today, the one he deleted? That looked to me like someone hacked his account. I despise Gingrich, but that tweet was just bizarre.

I'm not defending Weiner, just saying that his lie doesn't rise to the standard of craziness. It's just a sleazy lie to get away with doing something stupid.

Of course there are corrupt Democrats and of course politicians lie. I apologize for the term 'stupid' in the OP. I was really thinking of crazy and stupid. Think how nice it was today to read that McCain and some other pub called out Bachman for her accusations about Weiner's wife. We're far from perfect, but we seem to try to police our own. During the weinerversy, there were plenty here on DU who said he was lying.

[JohnnyRingo]

9. Bush was an evil genius who planned 9/11, or let it happen on purpose.

Preferring to think he was a moron, I never subscribed to the notion that he could even plan breakfast.

I know most blamed the usual neocons and portrayed Buxh as a witless stooge, but enough dems pumped up a conspiracy that had GW wringing his hands like Dr Evil while America re-geared for a post 9/11 world.

[SnohoDem]

11. I agree with your assessment of Bush,

but 'enough Dems'? Aside from McKinney, did many other major Dem spokespersons make a claim like that? I haven't seen F/911 since it was new, but I don't recall Michael Moore making that claim - he slammed Bush, hard, but did he accuse him of MIHOP/LIHOP? MIHOP/LIHOP - I always supported LIHTS - Let it happen through Stupidity. America DID re-gear for a post-911 world, though. People like me, who saw invading Iraq as being similar to invading Canada because Mexico dropped a bomb on us, were considered terrorist sympathizers.

Even here, 9/11 stuff was sent to a dungeon long ago.

[chknltl]

12. President Clinton classic:

"It depends on what the meaning of is is."

Never tried to figure that one out, never wanted to. The republicans are masters at wasting tax dollars and blaming it on the Democrats, this was just a variation on the same theme.

I find it interesting how supporters of the republican party will so easily parrot crap they hear no matter how stupid. "We have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" , made me cringe in way too many debates with my republican friends.

Regarding the stupid that flows out of many of the clowns and their leader clowns on the right, one might argue that there is something in their water. Three decades of begging for more and more pee-ed on economics, three decades of the corporatists cheerfully obliging, is there any doubt what flavors their water? No wonder they mix it with kool-aid!

That said, I take comfort in the knowledge that I have never said anything even remotely silly... especially here in the big DU.

[SnohoDem]

15. That said, I take comfort in the knowledge that I have never said anything even remotely silly...

I was giving us a pass! It's our house (and I've been here a lot longer than my post count suggests).

Like you said, "Never even tried to figure that one out..." I remember the day that came out - I'd been to lunch with two lefty friends and all we could say was, "This can't be true." It was.

If there's been anything 'good' about the witch hunt vs. Obama as opposed to the witch hunt vs. Clinton. it's that

a) There's no special prosecutor. They can't waste NEAR the money hunting Obama that they did with Clinton. It has to be private money. For all that we can look at the hatred against Obama, it was total war against Clinton. I wish we had special prosecutors, Bush could have used one - but look at it - from 1992 - 1996 (98?) all they got Clinton on was lying about a freakin' blowjob from a woman who was of legal age. I'd love to buy Ken Starr a t-shirt that says. "I spent $60M and all I got was a lousy blowjob".

b) Obama must be clean. They attacked him for being BORN FFS. What's left? He inhaled and snorted some coke when he was a kid? Psshhh. Who hasn't? I did a lot more than that. Unfortunately for the 'pugs, being black, or even half black, isn't a crime.

Thanks to everyone who responded. I doubt I've posted more than ten OPs in the nine years I've been on DU. If I disagree with you it isn't personal. I thank you for pointing out Democrat's lies because they seem so much more personal. Except for the possibility of 9/11 craziness, we really do look a lot saner than they are.

[BumRushDaShow]

13. I think the advent of "Shock Jocks"

on the public airwaves seemed to lead to more and more rudeness and crudeness and crassness in the discourse. And when "the society" protested, the retort was "You're violating my 1st Amendment rights".

And so began this downward spiral where even elected officials have chosen to engage in "shock talk" for attention, jettisoning any element of manners or intelligent discussion.

[SnohoDem]

16. But did Dems do that?

So far we've had four Dems (McKinney, Johnson, Blagovich, and Trafficant) who have said ridiculous shit that wasn't directly in their defense (lying politicians assumed). One poster named more male pugs than that, and their list was far from complete.

Has any lefty, say even Bernie Sanders, gone on Rachel Maddow or Stephanie Miller's show, and said, "Mitt Romney is a fascist from Mexico".

Has any lefty said, "There are 88 members of the House who are Nazis"?

Turn it around. The right has said shit like this and it gets run through the echo chamber. Dumb things the left says, do too, but in a different way.

[Vinca]

14. If we do it's while we're locked onto a hospital ward.

[Javaman]

17. Oh yes.

there were some truly classic threads here in the past. Two come to mind right off the bat.

The "bombing of the moon' thread and the "I will not be silenced!" thread are two prime examples.

Sadly, both threads have vanished, but it was some classic stuff.