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NanceGreggs

(27,820 posts)
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 09:38 PM Oct 2017

Open Letter to John Kelly

Let me begin by saying how sorry I am about the loss of your son. As a parent, I cannot imagine how devastating the death of a child would be, and my heart goes out to you and your family.

That being said, I am appalled by your remarks today about the issue of Trump’s phone call to the widow of La David Johnson.

You stated that you were “stunned” by the fact that Congresswoman Frederica Wilson “listened-in” on that phone call. You chose to ignore the fact that the Congresswoman was present when the phone call came by virtue of being a friend of both La David Johnson and his wife. You also left out the fact that you yourself were “listening in” on that same call.

What is truly stunning here is the fact that you, a Gold Star father, stood up and defended the man who vehemently trashed Khizr and Ghazala Khan, Gold Star parents, during his campaign. Where was your outrage then? You stood up and defended the man who has consistently disrespected one of our war heroes, John McCain, who spent years as a POW while your “pResident” was busy avoiding military service. Again, where was your outrage when Trump said he prefers soldiers “who don’t get caught”?

What is also stunning is the fact that Trump denied what he said to Ms. Johnson, and attacked Congresswoman Wilson for “fabricating” the very words that you today confirmed were actually said. Why are you not “stunned” by a president who lies repeatedly about everything?

Why are you not “stunned” by the fact that it took twelve days for your C-in-C to even acknowledge the deaths of La David Johnson and his brothers-in-arms? Why are you not “stunned” that Trump used his response to those deaths as an opportunity to state that previous presidents failed to contact the families of our fallen soldiers? You know that’s a lie – everyone knows it’s a lie. So why are you defending the liar-in-chief when he blatantly lies about his predecessors’ actions and statements about their communications with military families?

You stated that Congresswoman Wilson is an “empty barrel making noise”. There is nothing “empty” about those Americans who, like Ms. Wilson, are standing up to Trump’s lies, his lack of sensitivity, his blatant ignorance, and his disgraceful behaviour that seems to know no depth of depravity.

Trump could have put this whole disgraceful debacle to rest by simply saying he was sorry that his comments to Ms. Johnson were misinterpreted or misunderstood. Instead, he does what he always does – attack anyone who even suggests that he might be wrong.

Your performance today was nothing less than disgraceful. You stood in defence of a “pResident” who continues to say and do things that are beyond indefensible. You made excuses for a man who has disrespected our military on numerous occasions and, in the doing, you further enabled his despicable behaviour.

The nation is well aware that you were placed in your current position to act as baby-sitter to a petulant child with the maturity of a five-year-old, the temperament of a schoolyard bully, and the mental capacity of a self-absorbed buffoon who spends his time watching TV, tweeting nonsense, and playing golf.

Sadly, you have now demonstrated beyond all doubt your willingness to publicly wipe your charge’s ass when he shits on our military and their grieving families.

Shame on you, John Kelly – and shame on everyone like you, who prefer to excuse your “pResident’s” bullshit rather than show the courage to speak out against it.

--- Nance Greggs (American citizen who despairs for her country because of people like you)




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Open Letter to John Kelly (Original Post) NanceGreggs Oct 2017 OP
In the KISSER...POW! ChubbyStar Oct 2017 #1
NAnce, you have the wonderful and rare combination of a sharp mind and sharp pen! MLAA Oct 2017 #2
Brilliant, as always, NanceGreggs. Glorfindel Oct 2017 #3
I knew somebody would be able to say it better than I did, here: UTUSN Oct 2017 #4
I was thinking the same thing Roy Rolling Oct 2017 #18
What you said. Adding Twitler's vindictiveness, like this: UTUSN Oct 2017 #23
Yeah... radical noodle Oct 2017 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #30
Don't stop now! You're on a roll! lunatica Oct 2017 #54
& I'm *your* cheerleader, can't even count the years!1 I wonder what the Auto-Remove said to me!1 UTUSN Oct 2017 #56
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #5
Excellent, Nance. I have come to expect no less from you. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2017 #6
K&R. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2017 #7
Eloquent ! SCVDem Oct 2017 #8
HUGH K&R, Nance! Martin Eden Oct 2017 #9
Kelly sold out for money to the paper patriot Dotard. ffr Oct 2017 #10
Thank you for posting this, it needed to be said and needs to be repeated Snake Plissken Oct 2017 #11
K&R... spanone Oct 2017 #12
Kick. dalton99a Oct 2017 #13
Another Excellent Article Leith Oct 2017 #14
How I wish Gen. Kelly would read this NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #15
Kelly may not read DU but it would be almost impossible Grammy23 Oct 2017 #19
He's spending too much time with Trump The Wizard Oct 2017 #16
Bravo!! 58Sunliner Oct 2017 #17
A sorrowful thank you. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #20
Kick ass! smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #21
A home run... 3catwoman3 Oct 2017 #22
Four Star Fuckhead shadowmayor Oct 2017 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #31
Perfect linnknee Oct 2017 #25
Please make this go Viral. trueblue2007 Oct 2017 #26
THIS: Why are you not stunned by a president who lies repeatedly about everything? SunSeeker Oct 2017 #27
As always radical noodle Oct 2017 #28
right to the point.. BlueJac Oct 2017 #32
Great post. Trump saying he prefers soldiers raccoon Oct 2017 #33
Straight that! oasis Oct 2017 #34
Hey, ASS-HAT (yes, you, "General!") MyOwnPeace Oct 2017 #35
K&R DLevine Oct 2017 #36
K&R ehrnst Oct 2017 #37
Agree 100% Loge23 Oct 2017 #38
Thank you for this. brush Oct 2017 #39
How many brave soldiers will have to be sacrificed NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #40
spot on mercuryblues Oct 2017 #41
One major reason to migrate the military from the U.S. to the U.N. Fluke a Snooker Oct 2017 #42
Gen. John Kelly is a racist asshole Gothmog Oct 2017 #43
k and r and spot on, as ever, Nance. You stated it far more kindly than I would. niyad Oct 2017 #44
Please send this as letter or op-ed Jakes Progress Oct 2017 #45
Perfect. Nitram Oct 2017 #46
CNN aired a video of Rep. Wilson's speech at the 2015 event in question. oasis Oct 2017 #47
Perfect Takedown, Nance, ... DoctorJoJo Oct 2017 #48
Kelly said congresswoman Wilson Scarsdale Oct 2017 #49
The truth hurt's mozan Oct 2017 #50
Outstanding, as always Lebam in LA Oct 2017 #51
We need to get twitter to expand NanceGreggs' account character Ilsa Oct 2017 #52
Bradley Whitford got a few of those ideas on Twitter: Ilsa Oct 2017 #53
Something relevant Kelly said that's not been commented on: Ineeda Oct 2017 #55
Asking for your permission to post this to my feed on Facebook. Persondem Oct 2017 #57
Feel free to do so ... NanceGreggs Oct 2017 #58
Thank you. nt Persondem Oct 2017 #59
Thank you for finding my words ... NanceGreggs Oct 2017 #61
You are most welcome. I have already had a couple of favorable responses ... Persondem Oct 2017 #62
Kelly should have a tattoo on his ass saying "SOLD",... MarianJack Oct 2017 #60
That was a fabulous letter. I hope you send it to several news outlets Maraya1969 Oct 2017 #63
Open blog to Nance Greggs Perseus Oct 2017 #64

Glorfindel

(9,739 posts)
3. Brilliant, as always, NanceGreggs.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 09:43 PM
Oct 2017

I wish I thought Kelly would see it, read it, and take it to heart, but he probably doesn't have one. Thank you for expressing perfectly what the rest of us are thinking and feeling!

UTUSN

(70,755 posts)
4. I knew somebody would be able to say it better than I did, here:
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 09:43 PM
Oct 2017

I've posted a few times, when KELLY was lauded YES-HERE for being the adult somehow reining TWITLER in, that when he was at DHS he was a brute on Border policy.

He's been turned into the aw-shucks Gary COOPER/John "Draft Dodger" WAYNE type of testosterone hero.

Listening to several minutes of his press conference one question led to another:

* Since when do chiefs of staff hold press conferences?
I don't recall any by Rahm EMANUEL, PANETTA, or any of the other ones, full list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_White_House_Chiefs_of_Staff

* Why does TWITLER have to use others as crutches for defending and explaining his fuck-ups - not to mention never facing real and extended questions himself, always having a hapless visiting head of state standing next to him, and yukking it all off without the semblance of actual thought?!1

* When did the CIVILIAN CONTROL of American government get superseded by military prototypes?
Viz., reporters getting "qualified" to ask questions according to being or knowing Gold Star families.

* Who has degraded the principles of American government, not to mention Gold Star families, more than TWITLER?

* Why does an unelected flunky (you, KELLY) have more First Amendment privilege than a congresscritter who was elected to represent the constituents, besides having a personal relationship with the deceased veteran and his wife?

* Why do wingnuts exemplified by radio wingnut LOESH orgasming over KELLY believe that he personifies American values by dint of his gender and the stereotypical physical characteristics of it and of degrading his dead son's memory?

Roy Rolling

(6,941 posts)
18. I was thinking the same thing
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 11:49 PM
Oct 2017

WTF is the Chief of Staff holding a news conference for? He's the office manager. He makes sure there are enough pencils and paper, and that the president doesn't overbook appointments.

There is no reality for them, there is only a scripted, reality-TV performance. Kelly was trotted out there to recite his lines and elicit sympathy.

UTUSN

(70,755 posts)
23. What you said. Adding Twitler's vindictiveness, like this:
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 12:29 AM
Oct 2017

* Kelly told twitler he didn't get call.

* Twitler blurted it out.

* shit ensues.

* Twitler blames kelly & forces the usual hostage video.

Response to UTUSN (Reply #4)

UTUSN

(70,755 posts)
56. & I'm *your* cheerleader, can't even count the years!1 I wonder what the Auto-Remove said to me!1
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 07:10 PM
Oct 2017

Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

ffr

(22,672 posts)
10. Kelly sold out for money to the paper patriot Dotard.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 11:09 PM
Oct 2017
"Shame on you, John Kelly – and shame on everyone like you, who prefer to excuse your “pResident’s” bullshit rather than show the courage to speak out against it."

Leith

(7,813 posts)
14. Another Excellent Article
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 11:23 PM
Oct 2017

You're a DU Treasure, Nance.

We had such high hopes for Kelly here on DU. I swear, there's not much more disappointment I can take before I go to the doctor and try to get some kind of sedative. It is so disheartening to see what this country has become and how so many are actively supporting it.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
15. How I wish Gen. Kelly would read this
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 11:30 PM
Oct 2017

I don't know if it would make a difference; I hope it would. If not, he's as bad as Trump.

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
19. Kelly may not read DU but it would be almost impossible
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 11:52 PM
Oct 2017

For him to miss all of the critiques of his performance today. tRump should have been proud. And as the saying goes, “Another one bites the dust.” Everybody who gets ensnared in tRump’s web of lies and deceit falls by the wayside sooner or later. How long before Kelly is history?

sheshe2

(83,940 posts)
20. A sorrowful thank you.
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 12:02 AM
Oct 2017

We just saw Kelly betray his own son when he disrespected La David Johnson and his wife. He disrespected all that served and died.

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
24. Four Star Fuckhead
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 12:51 AM
Oct 2017

Other than Zinny and Shalikashvilli, I cannot remember any generals who said the war in Iraq was folly. All of them went along with the illegal and immoral war as a way to advance their careers. Any real general would have said, "hell no I'm not going to Iraq" or "How about we get the hell out of there before we make it any worse?". None did. Ass-kissers all, General Kelly fits the bill to a Tee. I don't believe that McMaster, Mattis, or Kelly are the adults in the room - they're just first class suck-ups and incompetent leaders to boot.

Spent OIF3 in Iraq and the bullshit that came from the flag officers was unbelievable. And the American people and our lousy media are suckers for anybody with stars on their shoulders. What Kelly did today is no surprise, it's exactly who he's always been.

Response to shadowmayor (Reply #24)

linnknee

(52 posts)
25. Perfect
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 01:01 AM
Oct 2017

I believe this is your second comment in the last week or so. You are an excellent writer. You wrote what 2/3 of usa are thinking. Thank you and best wishes to you and your family

SunSeeker

(51,740 posts)
27. THIS: Why are you not stunned by a president who lies repeatedly about everything?
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 01:51 AM
Oct 2017

A question that should be asked of everyone serving in the Trump administration.

They are all complicit.

radical noodle

(8,013 posts)
28. As always
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 01:53 AM
Oct 2017

you gave a perfect response. You should submit this to the Washington Post letters to the editor. Bravo!

raccoon

(31,126 posts)
33. Great post. Trump saying he prefers soldiers
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 06:34 AM
Oct 2017

"Who don't get caught" is truly despicable and shits on McCain's sacrifice and the years he spent in captivity. This from a five time draft dodger. Trump is truly contemptible.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
38. Agree 100%
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 10:56 AM
Oct 2017

Kelly's response belongs in the deplorable HOF.
Kudos to Lawrence O'Donnell also for exposing the widespread Irish racism exhibited by Kelly.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
40. How many brave soldiers will have to be sacrificed
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 11:45 AM
Oct 2017

to feed Trump's bloated ego? He has NO respect for any of them. Nor of Gold Star families, as he clearly showed to the Khans. HIS being "right" is more important, in his eyes, than anything else. Now, General Kelly has disgraced himself by tacitly approving of that. He even did what he said what he would never do; politicize his own son's death. All to defend Donald Trump.

mercuryblues

(14,547 posts)
41. spot on
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 12:25 PM
Oct 2017

I want to add: He dishonored his son's memory by standing up and defending a known liar, while lying about the person who spoke the truth. In Kelly's world a white man's verifiable lie holds more weight than a black woman's verifiable truth. He has cast a shade of dishonesty not only over the Marine Corps, but also over the entire military.

 

Fluke a Snooker

(404 posts)
42. One major reason to migrate the military from the U.S. to the U.N.
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 12:29 PM
Oct 2017

Last edited Fri Oct 20, 2017, 04:21 PM - Edit history (1)

The U.S. military has been the most oppressive, destructive armed regime in the history of the world for the past 50 years, starting with the Eisenhower buildup, the Nixon deceptions, the Reagan debacle, and the Bush invasion series of the middle east. Only Democrats have shown a willingness to downsize our military to operate in a more diverse, progressive global manner, but the GOP hawks have kept the military, along with its mindset that produces monsters like Gen. Kelly and the leadership that cowtows to the GOP masters in power.

As such, we progressives must advance the migration of control from the United States to the U.N. Doing so would ensure that the military is used not as a destructive force, but as an agency working hand-in-hand in promoting cooperation and socialist progressive polices around the world. The very attitude that Drumpf and Kelly display show that the GOP has ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS handling even a peashooter, let alone a rapacious orgainization such as the GOP-influenced military. I'd feel FAR safer having a consortium of countries based upon progressive ideals managing the most powerful destructive force on the planet.

This circles around to how the GOP is the most destructive force in the history of the planet, and MUST be denuded as soon as possible through any means.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
45. Please send this as letter or op-ed
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 01:47 PM
Oct 2017

to the NYT or Washington Post. The will likely edit some of the last two paragraphs, but the body your piece needs to go wider.

oasis

(49,426 posts)
47. CNN aired a video of Rep. Wilson's speech at the 2015 event in question.
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 01:56 PM
Oct 2017

It backed up her claim.

Clearly, Gen. Kelly lied. Wolf Blitzer and guest tried to let Kelly off the hook saying he "misspoke" about the nature of Rep. Wilson's presentation.

 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
48. Perfect Takedown, Nance, ...
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 02:15 PM
Oct 2017

.... thank you for organizing most of our own thoughts on this disgraceful incident.

JoJo

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
49. Kelly said congresswoman Wilson
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 02:58 PM
Oct 2017

had no right to listen in on the call from tRump. Yet, it is alright for Ivanka tRump, with no "title" to walk in on meetings in the WH, discussing policy? So, different rules for a white "princess" with shit for brains, than an ELECTED member of Congress??? The young widow probably was not in a mindset to accept a call from the orange menace, so needed someone to relay his message later.

mozan

(33 posts)
50. The truth hurt's
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 04:51 PM
Oct 2017

mr. kelly is no longer worthy of the title of general, just like flynn he is not worthy of respect he sold out to the devil. These people kelly, flynn should be jerked back to active duty and face a general court martial under UCMJ 134 and a host of other articles.
As a veteran I known what it means to step into that world and best I can tell is mr. kelly and mr. flynn both have violated the oath we took when we joined. They need to join the rest of the lapel pin patriots and sit down and STFU.

Ilsa

(61,700 posts)
52. We need to get twitter to expand NanceGreggs' account character
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 05:11 PM
Oct 2017

total to 3570 characters. For the full effect of her letter, which is outstanding, BTW.

Ilsa

(61,700 posts)
53. Bradley Whitford got a few of those ideas on Twitter:
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 05:28 PM
Oct 2017



You’re stunned? Were you stunned when @realDonaldTrump used Gold Star families to lie and take a shot at Obama? When he attack the Khans?When he mocked John McCain’s service? Mocked the handicapped? Bragged about sexual assault?Refused to denounce the KKK? We were, sir. Deeply.

5:50 PM - Oct 19, 2017

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
55. Something relevant Kelly said that's not been commented on:
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 06:02 PM
Oct 2017

Kelly said that he told the pResident NOT to make those calls, yet he did anyway. As if he were a child who says "you're not the boss of me..." and does exactly what he's been told not to do. No wonder Kelly had to "collect his thoughts" for an hour in Arlington.

Just as Nance says "...The nation is well aware that you were placed in your current position to act as baby-sitter to a petulant child with the maturity of a five-year-old, the temperament of a schoolyard bully, and the mental capacity of a self-absorbed buffoon who spends his time watching TV, tweeting nonsense, and playing golf."

I thought Kelly would be able to keep the pudgy fingers off that red button, but now I not so sure.

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
57. Asking for your permission to post this to my feed on Facebook.
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 07:24 PM
Oct 2017

I will either remove your name or leave as you would like.

Great post K & R

NanceGreggs

(27,820 posts)
58. Feel free to do so ...
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 07:26 PM
Oct 2017

... but please include my name as the author. I've already posted it on my own FB page, and apparently it is being widely shared.

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
62. You are most welcome. I have already had a couple of favorable responses ...
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 08:51 PM
Oct 2017

... to your worthy words.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
60. Kelly should have a tattoo on his ass saying "SOLD",...
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 08:19 PM
Oct 2017

...and since Trump likes to stiff people, it should also say "to the lowest bidder!"

PEACE!

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
64. Open blog to Nance Greggs
Fri Oct 20, 2017, 09:44 PM
Oct 2017

Hello Nance,

How I love your writing...Sometimes I forget to look at who wrote it, and mid way I know its you...always hitting the nail on the head.

If you are not syndicated you should be because your articles should be read by everyone, including the orange guy, well...not sure that he can read, but someone would tell him about it. Of course that you would have to exclude a couple of words that, although well placed, would not be admitted in those publications, but the message is so good that it needs to be in the New York Times, or one of those where the World can read it.

I for one provide the link to everyone I know, but that is not enough.

Thank you, and please don't stop.

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