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Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 05:52 PM Oct 2017

Men, its time to stand up or slither away.

If you know a man who is inappropriate in ANY WAY with women, it is YOUR duty to say something. To witness inappropriate behavior and ignore it is to condone it.

Period.

No more laughing at "lookit dem gazingas, nyuk nyuk, elbow-to-rib" cracks. COMPLETELY inappropriate. At an absolute minimum, an icy stare, but if you think you're a real man, you'll say something.

Make it socially unacceptable to behave that way.

I have ALWAYS lived my life that way and have the social scars and former "friends" to prove it.

Be a man.

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Men, its time to stand up or slither away. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Oct 2017 OP
Here are some ways to go deeper. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #1
WOW...every word is spot on! BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #2
Ha ha, charade you are! WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #3
Why is it always men who do the inapproiate. Jim Beard Oct 2017 #4
Whataboutism skills : 10/10 elehhhhna Oct 2017 #6
Yeah you're either in or you're out there's no halfway elehhhhna Oct 2017 #5

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,357 posts)
1. Here are some ways to go deeper.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 05:59 PM
Oct 2017
http://www.refinery29.com/2017/10/176776/how-to-be-an-ally-sexual-assault

Reflect privately on your experiences and your ideas. You might ask yourself some of the following questions:

How did you grow up thinking about men, women, and nonbinary people? What was your family life like? What were you taught about rape, sexual violence, and sexual harassment, formally and informally? Did your school cover it in sex-ed? What kinds of conversations did you have with your friends in high school? What habits have you learned or unlearned? What sexual situations have you felt uncomfortable in? Do you think you have ever made a partner feel uncomfortable in a sexual situation? What do you think about asking for consent?

Do you know people who are out, either publicly or to you, as survivors? Did you believe and support them when they told their stories? Have you read writing by people who identify as survivors? Have you watched films about sexual violence?

Do you believe sexual violence is primarily about sex or power? Why?

Do you know people who have been identified as perpetrators? How have you treated them? Does this square with your idea of how perpetrators should be treated? What do you think about the term “rape culture”? Do you think men who are not assailants participate in or benefit from it? What did you think when the Pussygate tape came out? What did you think when the Harvey Weinstein stories came out? What do you think about supporting male creators and businessmen who are known perpetrators? Have you offered public or private support to your community? Is it your role to do that?


https://medium.com/hels/20-things-men-can-do-rtfn-to-support-women-beyond-just-literally-ceasing-to-sexually-harass-us-b06da5ff90f

6. Tell your elected officials that you are a man who votes and you prioritize women’s issues when you decide who to vote for. Then actually prioritize women’s issues when you decide who to vote for. Understand that women’s issues are your issues.
7. Whenever you are in a group composed of only men (whether it’s social, work, church, or whatever) ask yourself why there are no women present. Then ask out loud why. Force an honest answer.
8. Cultivate genuine, intimate, nonsexual friendships with women.
9. Seek out women to be your heroes and mentors.

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
2. WOW...every word is spot on!
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:06 PM
Oct 2017

I am a woman by the way and BigmanPigman is a lyric front a song on the Pink Floyd album Animals.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
4. Why is it always men who do the inapproiate.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:23 PM
Oct 2017
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nurse-dead-patient-penis-denver-health-center-genitals-suspended-a7933641.html

A group of nurses were suspended after they opened a body bag to look at the deceased patient’s genitals.

All five were caught after one of them was overheard discussing the incident by another member of staff at the Denver Health Medical Center in Colorado. She thought was inappropriate and reported it.

The nurses were suspended for three weeks.

“Multiple staff members viewed the victim while he was incapacitated, including after he was deceased,” hospital spokesman, Josh Rasmussen, told the Denver7 news channel.
 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
5. Yeah you're either in or you're out there's no halfway
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:25 PM
Oct 2017

of course a lot of the general street harassment and some other forms happen specifically when a real standup kind of man is not present.

Also thanks to my own experiences I tell every woman that brings up anything on this topic to learn how to shout loudly in real time at whomever is doing it. If that's not gonna work in an office setting due to a power differential pull your phone out of your pocket and ask them to repeat that because you're recording and you laugh . " Can you speak directly into the microphone please?" While smirking at them. It's a "big funny joke" but it stops that shit cold, usuallY.

The first time you tell someone to get the fuck away from you in a forceful manner, is uncomfortable. It gets easier though, because it works.

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