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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 08:54 PM Jul 2012

MSNBC Guest: Mitt Romney Could End Up Withdrawing From GOP Race Before Convention

MSNBC Guest: Mitt Romney Could End Up Withdrawing From GOP Race Before Convention

by Josh Feldman

On his MSNBC show today, Al Sharpton opened by focusing on Mitt Romney‘s tax returns and increasing pressure from Republicans and conservatives for the GOP candidate to release more of them. Guest Catherine Crier said that it is certainly fair to look into that aspect of Romney’s background, and even threw out the notion that Romney might withdraw as the Republican nominee before the convention.

Sharpton argued that Romney has, all along, been encouraging people to look into his business background because he wants voters to see him as a successful businessman and a job creator, but as soon as people started looking at his background, he made it clear he wanted the scrutiny to only go back so far.

Crier pointed out that in 1994, when Romney ran against Ted Kennedy for his Senate seat, Romney did not release his returns, despite the precedent set by his father. She said that it is completely fair to scrutinize Romney’s history of job creation when he puts that forth as one of the reasons people should vote for him. Then, talking about what the implications of releasing or not releasing the returns would be, Crier mentioned she read an article today saying Romney might have to withdraw before the convention.

She didn’t mention which piece it was, but it was likely this post on The Huffington Post by Paul Abrams, who made this argument against Romney if the returns come out and reveal that the candidate took advantage of a 2009 IRS amnesty program.

- more -

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-guest-mitt-romney-could-end-up-withdrawing-from-gop-race-before-convention/

Throw it out there.


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MSNBC Guest: Mitt Romney Could End Up Withdrawing From GOP Race Before Convention (Original Post) ProSense Jul 2012 OP
ONLY if the media and the Dems refuse to be sidetracked by the new assaults by the right. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #1
+infinity BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #5
The crap they are throwing does not appear to be working. randome Jul 2012 #9
We don't want Obama to be uncontested. LiberalFighter Jul 2012 #33
Only problem...I like our chances against MittWit...but who would they put up ? nt Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2012 #2
I have no idea ProSense Jul 2012 #3
He is increasing doubt in the validity of the GOP in general. randome Jul 2012 #11
RETURN OF THE NEWT! MiniprotesterTodd Jul 2012 #14
The GOP Convention ends August 30 and the election is November 6. GarroHorus Jul 2012 #17
This is why he is not revealing his tax returns, and knows the GOP will go along flamingdem Jul 2012 #25
MittWit!!! KamaAina Jul 2012 #31
No way in hell standingtall Jul 2012 #4
It's his turn Mz Pip Jul 2012 #8
+1. He'll never withdraw. He has the delegates, $400 mill, the ABO voters riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #18
The amnesty thing hit me like a ton of bricks as well. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #6
I strongly suspect the Obama camp knows exactly what's in those returns JenniferJuniper Jul 2012 #7
The returns are filed with the Treasury Department DFW Jul 2012 #10
They would never admit it Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #15
"but I doubt Obama wants to be known for it, " former9thward Jul 2012 #16
Violation of Federal law? DFW Jul 2012 #20
Yes there have been abuses by many adminstrations. former9thward Jul 2012 #24
Or - someone from the mccain/palin campaign leftynyc Jul 2012 #32
They don't need to know details. Raising questions is enough. randome Jul 2012 #12
Someone could send him a little dog named "Checkers" aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #13
This is very intriguing and could explain SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #19
Care for ProSense Jul 2012 #21
Why, yes I do believe I will have some SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #23
pure nonsense. If Romney is tied in most polls he won't be dropping out of the race. WI_DEM Jul 2012 #22
Thanks for your efforts to keep things in perspective flamingdem Jul 2012 #26
Mittens WILL NOT withdraw. Atman Jul 2012 #27
That won't happen. The GOP will pick the VP candidate and the media will take over from there. AlinPA Jul 2012 #28
This would involve Romney having some shame Gothmog Jul 2012 #29
His ego won't let him quit hifiguy Jul 2012 #30
no he wont Coexist Jul 2012 #34
After Ann's comments on GMA this morning Zyzafyx Jul 2012 #35

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
1. ONLY if the media and the Dems refuse to be sidetracked by the new assaults by the right.
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 08:58 PM
Jul 2012

They are trying to throw everything they can at us this week, to make us forget about it. Bad polls.. uh huh... Attacks on comments taken out of context? Yep. Videos about welfare queens. Got it!

They are so desperate that they're trying to change the story. DO NOT LET THEM. Keep harping on it on all the various sites you visit..

And.. romney is MISSING part of the 2010 return! And has only guesstimated his 2011 return.

BumRushDaShow

(129,121 posts)
5. +infinity
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:14 PM
Jul 2012

And they have unleased the fiends on DU as well.

Got keep at it. I noticed some of the other liberal/progressive PACs have been issuing ads now.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. The crap they are throwing does not appear to be working.
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:25 PM
Jul 2012

I think it's very possible Romney will withdraw. Will the GOP then throw good money after bad? I doubt it. They treasure money too much.

It is conceivable -only conceivable, mind you- that Obama will be uncontested.

LiberalFighter

(50,950 posts)
33. We don't want Obama to be uncontested.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 04:34 PM
Jul 2012

It would hurt candidates down the line and likely hurt our chances in Congress.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. I have no idea
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:09 PM
Jul 2012

if this is a possibility, but Mitt actions are increasing doubt in his ability to remain viable.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. He is increasing doubt in the validity of the GOP in general.
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:26 PM
Jul 2012

Are we sure he's not on our side?

14. RETURN OF THE NEWT!
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:42 PM
Jul 2012

Could it be that Newt is waiting in the wings for the Romney collapse? He's damaged goods, but not as bad as many of the rest of the previous presidential posers. And he'd get all the "bitter white racist guy" vote.

Or will the tea party (or more specifically the corporate overlords that control them) reach into obscurity to find someone whose scum factor isn't yet on the radar?

Oh, and one more thing. Did Romney ever put on his college resume his day as a barber? Only served one customer, of course, who was far from satisfied.

 

GarroHorus

(1,055 posts)
17. The GOP Convention ends August 30 and the election is November 6.
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:06 PM
Jul 2012

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, is capable of putting together a national presidential campaign and ground game in 68 days.

Even if they started today, it would not be doable.

If Romney bails, everything goes into the House, Senate, and Gubernatorial races and they put up some sacrificial lamb this year.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
25. This is why he is not revealing his tax returns, and knows the GOP will go along
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:37 PM
Jul 2012

They are upset with him in a half fake manner, so they all don't look like liars

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
4. No way in hell
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:14 PM
Jul 2012

He wants to be President more than anything in the world, and feels entitled to it. The republicans would have to drag him away from the campaign ,and I am not sure they could do that.

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
8. It's his turn
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:22 PM
Jul 2012

or so he thinks and he's not about to let anyone cut in line ahead of him. He'll stonewall this and hope that Obama runs out of money before he starts with the really negative ads he has planned for October.

He won't release his tax returns either.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
18. +1. He'll never withdraw. He has the delegates, $400 mill, the ABO voters
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:12 PM
Jul 2012

(Anyone But Obama), his Mormon base of millions motivated to GOTV, and recent polls showing him very, very close.

He's a serious fundraiser whose demonstrated he knows how to get it done.

He'll stonewall. There's no legal imperative for him to release the returns so he won't. He'll ride this out.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
6. The amnesty thing hit me like a ton of bricks as well.
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:17 PM
Jul 2012

I really think that will kill his campaign, as well as any future in politics. Don't know if he will drop out over it, but my gut tells me that is why we aren't going to see the pre-2010 returns.

JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
7. I strongly suspect the Obama camp knows exactly what's in those returns
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:19 PM
Jul 2012

And it's bad.

Anything is possible.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
10. The returns are filed with the Treasury Department
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:25 PM
Jul 2012

I'm sure the Obama administration could gain access if they wanted to. However, considering the precedent
that might establish for future Republican administrations, I'm not sure they want to go there. Frankly, I
think the notion that Republicans wouldn't go there anyway is foolish, but I doubt Obama wants to be known
for it, even though Cheney probably did, and Romney certainly would.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
15. They would never admit it
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:50 PM
Jul 2012

but it is very likely that this has been common practice for decades.

former9thward

(32,027 posts)
16. "but I doubt Obama wants to be known for it, "
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:55 PM
Jul 2012

Yeah I doubt he does also because it is a VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW. It was one of the impeachment counts against Nixon.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
20. Violation of Federal law?
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:59 PM
Jul 2012

That has often proved to be a minor hindrance at most for many Republican administrations.

former9thward

(32,027 posts)
24. Yes there have been abuses by many adminstrations.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:35 PM
Jul 2012

The Kennedy's and the Johnson administration used federal agencies to spy and harass MLK among others. Nixon's abuses are well known. Hopefully we have moved beyond that. I think we have. We with internet it is much harder for authority to operate in secret.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
32. Or - someone from the mccain/palin campaign
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 01:13 PM
Jul 2012

could have "accidentally" left those 23 years of returns laying around. Or someone who saw them is spilling the beans.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. They don't need to know details. Raising questions is enough.
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:28 PM
Jul 2012

Romney -and the GOP- are falling to pieces in front of our eyes.

It's beautiful.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
13. Someone could send him a little dog named "Checkers"
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 09:32 PM
Jul 2012

and he could have a tear-filled statement about how much he loves the dog, like Tricky Dick did to stay on the Republican ticket. For visual effect, he could tape the statement from the roof of a car.

SunsetDreams

(8,571 posts)
19. This is very intriguing and could explain
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:14 PM
Jul 2012

the refusal to release the records. I read the articles in question, I say articles because one led to another and another. Gives more depth to the name Swiss Mitt. If this is in fact true, you can now put me into the camp that he will have to drop out.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
26. Thanks for your efforts to keep things in perspective
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:38 PM
Jul 2012

We can't assume that the independents will care about tax returns, what Ann says, or much else other than "what's in it for me" tax refunds and jobs.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
27. Mittens WILL NOT withdraw.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:40 PM
Jul 2012

He cannot. He never backed out of business deal with so much invested. He'll just pony up some more dough (sorry for the dancing horse pun) and soldier on. Failure is not an option for Romney, unless he can outsource all the jobs and still make a few million bucks.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
28. That won't happen. The GOP will pick the VP candidate and the media will take over from there.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:50 PM
Jul 2012

If it is Rubio, TV viewers will be looking at pictures of him and his wife 24 x7 for a month.
If it is Rice, the media will also go berserk and cover her for the rest of the campaign.
If it is Santorum, the Christian right will take over the campaign and the media will love that too.

Bain gate and the tax thing will be forgotten. Media controls it all.

Gothmog

(145,322 posts)
29. This would involve Romney having some shame
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:53 PM
Jul 2012

The only way that Romney would withdraw would be if he was capable of feeling shame. I think that it is safe to say that shame is an emotion for the 99% and that he is immune from this emotion.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
30. His ego won't let him quit
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 01:00 PM
Jul 2012

but he has boxed himself into a very unappetizing corner. He can stonewall on the tax and Bain issues and be thought of as a thieving weasel or he can open the books and prove it. He's screwn.

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