Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 07:46 AM Oct 2017

When my brother was killed, Bush listened while I screamed at him & then held, you fat f-ing liar





@realDonaldTrump When my brother was killed, Pres Bush listened while I screamed at him & then held me as I sobbed, you fat fucking liar.



I read that President Bush caught Hell from some Gold Star mothers as well as families of wounded vets he visited at Walter Reed, He just took it. He told his aides if that's how they feel they earned the right to feel that way.


Trump is a golem.



14 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
When my brother was killed, Bush listened while I screamed at him & then held, you fat f-ing liar (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 OP
It's strange times when I can point to Dubya as a good example for ANYTHING. mac56 Oct 2017 #1
There are a few "private instances" that show Dubya isn't a " fundamentally bad guy" like Trump. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #3
I agree, I don't think W is a bad person. thesquanderer Oct 2017 #4
Trump DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #5
Dubya was also raised in a privileged bubble... maddiemom Oct 2017 #6
We only know about Karla Fay Tucker because of Tucker Carlson's reporting. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #7
"Golem" is a whole lot more creative than "Turd" lagomorph777 Oct 2017 #2
Don't forget that W lied us into war, and all the lives that cost groundloop Oct 2017 #8
W was a terrible president Bettie Oct 2017 #9
The way I've seen it phrased: cab67 Oct 2017 #10
Obama had heart and brain to spare. lpbk2713 Oct 2017 #12
I abhor bush, but I can respect him for that Victor_c3 Oct 2017 #11
Thank you for your service. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #14
As bad as he was, Bush had a few little shreds of decency in his character hvn_nbr_2 Oct 2017 #13

mac56

(17,569 posts)
1. It's strange times when I can point to Dubya as a good example for ANYTHING.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 09:29 AM
Oct 2017

It's a strange strange world we live in, Master Jack.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. There are a few "private instances" that show Dubya isn't a " fundamentally bad guy" like Trump.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 09:35 AM
Oct 2017

The instances where he consoled the Gold Star mothers as they blamed him for the death of their child.

When he went to his alumni reunion and one of his classmates had gender reassignment surgery and he was totally nonchalant about it. Imagine Trump in that situation.


Even Nixon had redeeming qualities. He was a doting father.

Trump has no redeeming qualities. He's a wreck of a human being.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
4. I agree, I don't think W is a bad person.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:14 AM
Oct 2017

I think he wasn't smart enough to avoid being manipulated by people with bad intentions.

All indications, though, are that Trump is simply a despicable person. Or, to be as charitable as I can be, severely psychologically damaged.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. Trump
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:23 AM
Oct 2017

Trump reminds me of a guy who would get two homeless men to fight with a promise of fifty bucks for the winner and then not pay the victor.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
6. Dubya was also raised in a privileged bubble...
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:27 AM
Oct 2017

which made him rather tone deaf and clueless about the world in which most of us were raised. Although I'll never forget his mimicking a woman on death row, he really wasn't a mean spirited person, and this wasn't typical of him, except for occasional lapses that were more thoughtless than nasty. There are not enough negative words to describe Trump. He IS mean-spirited ,vindictive, and completely self-involved. It's also more and more obvious that he is rapidly going completely "off his rocker."

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. We only know about Karla Fay Tucker because of Tucker Carlson's reporting.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:30 AM
Oct 2017

I don't know if I can trust the source.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
8. Don't forget that W lied us into war, and all the lives that cost
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:39 AM
Oct 2017

I can't be quite so generous in my assessment of him, though I do agree that 45* is worse by at least an order of magnitude.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
9. W was a terrible president
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:41 AM
Oct 2017

but he is capable of showing humanity.

The orange creature is not capable of that. He has no capacity for empathy or humanity whatsoever.

cab67

(2,993 posts)
10. The way I've seen it phrased:
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:13 PM
Oct 2017

Nixon had a brain, but no heart.
Bush Jr. had a heart, but no brain.
Trump has neither a heart nor a brain.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
11. I abhor bush, but I can respect him for that
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:23 PM
Oct 2017

I was an Infantry Platoon Leader in Iraq world n 2004. I lost five soldiers under my command and I personally met the families of four of them. One of the families was absolutely brutal to me, but I took it and don’t resent them at all for their words. As a leader, I owed it to my Soldiers and to their families to give them the chance to be angry at me for their death.

As a man and a leader, you owe that to those who serve under you.


** I hate to use the term “man” like that, but I’m at a loss for a gender-neutral term for that.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,486 posts)
13. As bad as he was, Bush had a few little shreds of decency in his character
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:11 PM
Oct 2017

I can't see any shreds of decency in Trump. He cares about only three things: his wealth, his ego, and his lust.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»When my brother was kille...