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Pete Souza: (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 2017 OP
Thank goodness MontanaMama Oct 2017 #1
Why does trump* lie about things that are so EASILY verified?? Yea, that's a rhetorical question Siwsan Oct 2017 #2
Because he never pays any price for lying gratuitous Oct 2017 #3
because he knows his stupid fucking racist fans believe him no matter what Skittles Oct 2017 #4
Bingo! smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #5
Skittles is right. nt irisblue Oct 2017 #19
Aye Aye! Hordes of racists only believe racist gurglings Corvo Bianco Oct 2017 #20
Because he makes up his own reality as he goes along. demmiblue Oct 2017 #6
Does he have a long history of lying? I know he exaggerated to cover up his failures Siwsan Oct 2017 #7
he's been lying his entire adult life maxsolomon Oct 2017 #12
Until he won the nomination, I honestly never found him worth paying attention to Siwsan Oct 2017 #14
I know it was an innocent question... demmiblue Oct 2017 #16
I'm pretty sure he has dementia or the onset of Alzheimer's Siwsan Oct 2017 #18
Tell me about it. demmiblue Oct 2017 #21
I sure do get that!!! Siwsan Oct 2017 #22
He has a perfect echo chamber. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #8
He is so stupid he doesn't know he is lying. Plus he'll say Anything AGAINST Obama. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #9
I think he says what he thinks needs to be said, to put himself in the best light, possible Siwsan Oct 2017 #11
Because people have selective bias in what they pay attention to and believe IronLionZion Oct 2017 #23
Dotard doesn't even know the first thing about military respect. ffr Oct 2017 #10
Yeah I saw that clip charliea Oct 2017 #15
The irony is in his attacks on Americans ffr Oct 2017 #17
5 deferments tiptonic Oct 2017 #13
So beautiful and touching when we have caring leadership. forgotmylogin Oct 2017 #24

MontanaMama

(23,317 posts)
1. Thank goodness
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 04:02 PM
Oct 2017

that Pete Souza has PBO's back on this in an official capacity. Dotard's lies on this subject are stunning and shocking. I didn't think he could shock me any more.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
2. Why does trump* lie about things that are so EASILY verified?? Yea, that's a rhetorical question
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 04:28 PM
Oct 2017

I'm just so beyond furious, at this point, that I'm close to hyperventilating.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Because he never pays any price for lying
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 04:31 PM
Oct 2017

Any other politician with such a poor record and relationship to the military would have been roasted in the media. But Trump can bad-mouth POWs, KIAs, disabled veterans, and military commitment and readiness, and not one word gets printed or aired in the media about it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
5. Bingo!
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 04:48 PM
Oct 2017

This is exactly why he does it. They will believe anything he says. He could say that all Democrats are really Crab People and they would fall for it hook, line and sinker.

Corvo Bianco

(1,148 posts)
20. Aye Aye! Hordes of racists only believe racist gurglings
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 07:07 PM
Oct 2017

They smell ignorance coming through the tube. It smells like their own ass, so naturally, they eat it.

demmiblue

(36,854 posts)
6. Because he makes up his own reality as he goes along.
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 04:53 PM
Oct 2017

I seriously think that his mental illness will not allow him to see any other reality but the one of his making.

And he gets away with it time and time again. That compounds the problem.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
7. Does he have a long history of lying? I know he exaggerated to cover up his failures
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 04:58 PM
Oct 2017

IMHO, and from my personal experience, I'm not sure it's a psychological illness - I'm almost positive it's physiological, like dementia.

My Mom used to come out with some incredibly 'WTF' kind of statements, as she headed down the Alzheimer's/Dementia road. In fact, that was one of the first red flags that something was going wrong.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
12. he's been lying his entire adult life
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 06:12 PM
Oct 2017

he was taught to lie by his father and Roy Cohn. its a technique he's fully internalized: just lie and dare someone to do anything about it. your money and your lawyers will protect you.

are you just now paying attention to this?

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
14. Until he won the nomination, I honestly never found him worth paying attention to
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 06:27 PM
Oct 2017

Before that, I had little knowledge about his psychotic make up, other than that he was a wealthy big mouth who was tabloid fodder and had a big problem with fidelity. I never watched his show, I don't live in New York, and truth be told, until he started running for office, he seemed like more of a cartoon character, to me.

I have read about the Roy Cohn connection. I never dug into his business career, and I didn't dig further because I NEVER in a billion years expected we would end up in this precarious situation.

THUS, I really didn't know if he always lied with such reckless abandon. Seriously, it was just an innocent question!!

demmiblue

(36,854 posts)
16. I know it was an innocent question...
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 06:41 PM
Oct 2017

I would have looked up the links, but he exhausts me. He has a history of lying, but I would not rule out emerging/existing dementia given several episodes of... (moments of total blankness/unawareness of his environs and responsibilities). He has always been inappropriate, so I don't know how to gauge that!




Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
18. I'm pretty sure he has dementia or the onset of Alzheimer's
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 06:55 PM
Oct 2017

I went through that with my Mom, and my brother and I both notice similar behaviors and affectations. The wandering off, the temper flares, the "sundowning" type behavior is all too familiar.

I'll tell you this - I'm exhausted, too. Sometimes I think if I didn't have groups like this to connect with, I'd go nuts.

Back at you!!!

demmiblue

(36,854 posts)
21. Tell me about it.
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 07:14 PM
Oct 2017

It is also nice to hear from a fellow troll (I know you are a Michigander, so you will get that... lol)!

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
8. He has a perfect echo chamber.
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 05:05 PM
Oct 2017

tRump knows that whatever he says, it will be repeated and somehow justified by Faux News, hundreds of talk radio stations, dozens of Congresscritters and his own press office.

So, why worry about the truth?

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
11. I think he says what he thinks needs to be said, to put himself in the best light, possible
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 06:11 PM
Oct 2017

And I also I think he's such a sociopath, he doesn't care that he's lying.

IronLionZion

(45,446 posts)
23. Because people have selective bias in what they pay attention to and believe
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:57 AM
Oct 2017

it has long been proven that when incorrect information is delivered, and then followed with a correction later, a significant portion of people only remember the original incorrect info. Especially as it gets repeated in the echo chambers of RW hate radio, Fox Noise, and social media memes.

There is a portion of idiots who believe Republicans are patriotic and support our troops while the Democrats are a bunch of America-hating traitors. They accept whatever confirms that bias and reject whatever proves otherwise.


ffr

(22,670 posts)
10. Dotard doesn't even know the first thing about military respect.
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 06:09 PM
Oct 2017

As we witnessed last week while he was stroking Dittohead at the national guard base, while Retreat ceremonies were happening.

Did he rise, solute, stop talking? Nope, he disrespected our military. What did you expect?

charliea

(260 posts)
15. Yeah I saw that clip
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 06:36 PM
Oct 2017

It's appalling, he's the freaking Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces and he disrespects a tradition that predates the country's founding? Sounds entirely in character, especially the part about "What a nice sound that is. Are they playing that for you or for me?". Now according to Snopes (http://www.snopes.com/trump-retreat/) he didn't actually violate protocol, but if he didn't know what it was, and he could even joke that it was for Hannity or him, then he has no memory of the military school that he attended. Sounds about right...

ffr

(22,670 posts)
17. The irony is in his attacks on Americans
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 06:48 PM
Oct 2017

... exercising their first amendment rights.

He calls them out for disrespecting the American flag.

OH REALLY!!

Lest he who cast the first stone, Mr. Dotard!

tiptonic

(765 posts)
13. 5 deferments
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 06:27 PM
Oct 2017

A orange haired draft dodger, with 5 deferments to stay out of the Army, should keep his ignorant mouth shut.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
24. So beautiful and touching when we have caring leadership.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 10:06 AM
Oct 2017

Side note with all due respect - are the Obamas giant people in this picture? I didn't even notice the wife hugging MO until I enlarged the photo because the silhouettes converge.

I looked it up. Yes, they are. The Obamas are 6'1 and 5'11. I guess they are proportionate to each other in photos and I'd never seen them both together comparatively with shorter people. It never clicked until now for me Michelle was that tall.

They are both giants in stature to me in every respect, especially non physically.

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