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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 08:50 AM Oct 2017

The Danger of President Pence - By Jane Mayer

Trump’s critics yearn for his exit. But Mike Pence, the corporate right’s inside man, poses his own risks.

By Jane Mayer

On September 14th, the right-wing pundit Ann Coulter, who last year published a book titled “In Trump We Trust,” expressed what a growing number of Americans, including conservatives, have been feeling since the 2016 election. The previous day, President Trump had dined with Democratic leaders at the White House, and had impetuously agreed to a major policy reversal, granting provisional residency to undocumented immigrants who came to America as children. Republican legislators were blindsided. Within hours, Trump disavowed the deal, then reaffirmed it. Coulter tweeted, “At this point, who doesn’t want Trump impeached?” She soon added, “If we’re not getting a wall, I’d prefer President Pence.”

Trump’s swerve did the unthinkable—uniting Coulter and liberal commentators. After Trump threatened to “totally destroy” North Korea, Gail Collins, the Times columnist, praised Vice-President Mike Pence as someone who at least “seems less likely to get the planet blown up.” This summer, an opinion column by Dana Milbank, of the Washington Post, appeared under the headline “ ‘president pence’ is sounding better and better.”

Pence, who has dutifully stood by the President, mustering a devotional gaze rarely seen since the days of Nancy Reagan, serves as a daily reminder that the Constitution offers an alternative to Trump. The worse the President looks, the more desirable his understudy seems. The more Trump is mired in scandal, the more likely Pence’s elevation to the Oval Office becomes, unless he ends up legally entangled as well.

Pence’s odds of becoming President are long but not prohibitive. Of his forty-seven predecessors, nine eventually assumed the Presidency, because of a death or a resignation. After Lyndon Johnson decided to join the ticket with John F. Kennedy, he calculated his odds of ascension to be approximately one in four, and is said to have told Clare Boothe Luce, “I’m a gambling man, darling, and this is the only chance I’ve got.”

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https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/23/the-danger-of-president-pence

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tymorial

(3,433 posts)
1. Pence is a different kind of crazy.
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 09:02 AM
Oct 2017

We're familiar with his crazy. It's a crazy the Democrats have been fighting for years. Trump's crazy is just.... out there and unpredictable.

Look I'd rather not have crazy in my life but if I don't have a choice I'll take familiar crazy any day.

emulatorloo

(44,128 posts)
3. He has the charisma of a sack of potatoes too. Trump inspires his crazies to accept bad policy
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 12:56 PM
Oct 2017

Pence can't sell like Trump can sell.

emulatorloo

(44,128 posts)
4. I believe Trump will start a nuclear war. I don't think Pence will
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 12:59 PM
Oct 2017

We get President Pence and we will deal with it. He's hated in his home state of Indiana. Most Americans don't like theocrats. He doesn't have a 1/2 teaspoon of charisma (Trump does)

red dog 1

(27,805 posts)
6. Trump is insane, Pence is a tool of the Koch brothers and the 1 percenters
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 04:07 PM
Oct 2017

I hope they both are removed from office!

(Pence lied about his role in the removal of former FBI Director James Comey)

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
7. And we will fight him if he becomes President. But he's less likely to toss nuclear bombs for fun.nt
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 04:15 PM
Oct 2017

irisblue

(32,975 posts)
8. I listened to Mayers' interview on FreshAir/NPR today 10/18/17. Pence is a scary man.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 06:02 PM
Oct 2017

She made the point that Pence is owned by the Koch brothers. Interview is on FreshAir podcast, article is online. Well worth the time to read or listen.

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