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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 09:18 PM Oct 2017

Oh, Woody Allen, fuck you so very much.

Woody Allen: Weinstein story is ‘sad’ but men should be able to ‘wink at a woman’ without a ‘witch hunt’



https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/woody-allen-weinstein-story-is-sad-but-men-should-be-able-to-wink-at-a-woman-without-a-witch-hunt/

Director Woody Allen told the BBC this weekend that the situation with disgraced mega-producer Harvey Weinstein is “very sad,” but warned against creating a “witch hunt atmosphere” where “every guy in an office who winks at a woman is suddenly having to call a lawyer to defend himself.”

Allen — who has been accused of rape and child molestation by his ex-wife Mia Farrow and who married his adopted stepdaughter Sun-Yi Previn when the girl was 19 — said that for the scores of women alleging Weinstein sexually assaulted or harassed them, in the end, “there are no winners,” even when they do come forward.

“No one ever came to me or told me horror stories with any real seriousness,” said Allen. “And they wouldn’t, because you are not interested in it. You are interested in making your movie. But you do hear a million fanciful rumors all the time. And some turn out to be true and some — many — are just stories about this actress, or that actor.”

He continued, “The whole Harvey Weinstein thing is very sad for everybody involved. Tragic for the poor women that were involved, sad for Harvey that [his] life is so messed up. There’s no winners in that, it’s just very, very sad and tragic for those poor women that had to go through that.”
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Oh, Woody Allen, fuck you so very much. (Original Post) Miles Archer Oct 2017 OP
He is discouraging people from coming forward JI7 Oct 2017 #1
Yeah, because "no one wins" if they do Miles Archer Oct 2017 #2
Does anyone listen to Woody Allen, anymore? Baitball Blogger Oct 2017 #16
Well, consider the source . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Oct 2017 #3
There is the Dylan Farrow thing also which Ronan said he believes JI7 Oct 2017 #5
No wonder Ronan Farrow still won't speak to him. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #4
Yes, he did. It's in the New Yorker. Very well done. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #6
Definitely..n/t monmouth4 Oct 2017 #7
I Agree Leith Oct 2017 #8
I don't think we even need a DNA test for this one. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #9
No. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #31
He said he spends the holidays with the Sinatra family Bradshaw3 Oct 2017 #19
He has to be BainsBane Oct 2017 #27
As weird as their relationship might be, Sun-Yi PREVIN was not Woody Allen's adopted stepdaughter. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2017 #10
Oh, not his "adopted" stepdaughter . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Oct 2017 #14
There IS something wrong with Woody Allen. LisaM Oct 2017 #17
Thanks. That's about all I was shooting for. Looks like Rawstory has corrected the orig. text, too. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2017 #23
Fair point... still a creep though, you're right about that too. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #38
I just remember when the whole family was "together".... LisaM Oct 2017 #40
He was the partner of her mother, and treated her as his daughter when she was small. pnwmom Oct 2017 #20
Sick is more like it! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #32
She only lived with his children from a young age BainsBane Oct 2017 #28
I'm still amazed by that, and how easily it's accepted, often depending on the perpetrator's status. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #39
Don't be shamed MaryMagdaline Oct 2017 #11
Yeah. There has never been a male equivalent to "witch hunts." nolabear Oct 2017 #12
Oh for god's sake Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2017 #13
Men who create a hostile work environment by making sexual advances towards women... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #34
Allen is a sicko himself... HopeAgain Oct 2017 #15
Rape equals winking now? What a slimy piece of garbage. Squinch Oct 2017 #18
Yeah, spoken like the true sexual predator that he is!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #35
Mia and Ronan are defenders of Roman Polanski kskiska Oct 2017 #21
I guess that makes it okay BainsBane Oct 2017 #26
I'm not sure that is what kskiska is saying here... careful jumping to conclusions. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #36
The whole point is women speaking out Beringia Oct 2017 #22
Woody Allen Should STFU. MineralMan Oct 2017 #24
Can think of a few other things that creepy perv can go do! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #37
Sexual predators stick together. Nt BainsBane Oct 2017 #25
Woody and Sun-Yi have been together for decades, Could they both of found real love? Old Vet Oct 2017 #29
OMFG! trixie2 Oct 2017 #30
I know it sounds fucked up but Hollywood people follow there own drummer......... Old Vet Oct 2017 #33
"... men should be able to wink at a woman ..." rock Oct 2017 #41
3. Well, consider the source . . .
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 09:28 PM
Oct 2017

This loathsome pervert also thinks nothing of a man marrying his own step-daughter.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. Yes, he did. It's in the New Yorker. Very well done.
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 09:38 PM
Oct 2017

I am sure it hit home for him considering the fact that his "father" is such a pervert. I still think he's Sinatra's kid. He doesn't have a hint of Woody's looks. A combination of Mia and Frank.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/from-aggressive-overtures-to-sexual-assault-harvey-weinsteins-accusers-tell-their-stories

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Leith

(7,809 posts)
8. I Agree
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 09:47 PM
Oct 2017

How about a picture of Ronan between pics of Sinatra and Allen when they were about that age?



Hooze yer daddy?

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
19. He said he spends the holidays with the Sinatra family
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 10:37 PM
Oct 2017

So draw what you will from that. I don't think there's any doubt who his biological father is.

14. Oh, not his "adopted" stepdaughter . . .
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 10:04 PM
Oct 2017

. . . well, that makes all the difference, then.

As I recall, Sun-Yi was about nine years old when she was adopted by Mia Farrow, and about 10 years old when Farrow and Allen began their relationship. That Allen never formally "adopted" the girl is so far beside the point that I'm hard-pressed to figure why anyone would possibly think it relevant. She was a child and grew up in a setting where Allen was the boyfriend/lover of her own adopted mother.

There is something really, really wrong with Woody Allen.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
17. There IS something wrong with Woody Allen.
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 10:20 PM
Oct 2017

I don't think it does any harm to correct the record on whether he adopted Sun-Yi, though. His relationship with her is still super creepy, but there are people who go about saying a whole story is wrong if one fact like that is even mildly misstated (which is unfortunate but true).

I just remember when the whole Farrow-Allen family would go somewhere in public. Everyone always looked so sad.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
40. I just remember when the whole family was "together"....
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 01:21 PM
Oct 2017

Whenever they were seen in public as a group, they all looked completely miserable.

There was always a darkness to the whole situation, IMO.

pnwmom

(108,979 posts)
20. He was the partner of her mother, and treated her as his daughter when she was small.
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 10:47 PM
Oct 2017

His relationship with her is wrong.

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
28. She only lived with his children from a young age
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 12:31 PM
Oct 2017

We’ve been through all the defenses of Allen, Assange, and one rapist after another. Is there no point at which people stop defending sexual predators?


InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
39. I'm still amazed by that, and how easily it's accepted, often depending on the perpetrator's status.
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 01:20 PM
Oct 2017

We have to get past that... the ONLY concern should be the VICTIMS!!

MaryMagdaline

(6,855 posts)
11. Don't be shamed
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 09:52 PM
Oct 2017

Woody's trying to shame liberals by using the "witch hunt" term, as in mob vengeance, scapegoating, primitive vigilante justice. He tried to shame Mia because he was her meal ticket. He tried to shame Dylan for being too young and stupid to know what happened to her. Ronan, my new hero, isn't buying any of it. He stood by his sister and doesn't care that his father supported him financially. He exposed Weinstein even though Weinstein gives millions to Ronan's favorite political party and various worthy charities.

Woody and the other abusers want us to be too cool for social censure. Worried much?

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
12. Yeah. There has never been a male equivalent to "witch hunts."
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 09:53 PM
Oct 2017

They have to look to female persecution to even name their fear of male persecution.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
34. Men who create a hostile work environment by making sexual advances towards women...
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 01:04 PM
Oct 2017

even if not rejected, are loathsome scum, plain and simple. I don't care what their party affiliation is, their celebrity status, or even if they're the POTUS... they ALL need to go!!

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
26. I guess that makes it okay
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 12:25 PM
Oct 2017

For Allen to molest children and Weinstein to rape women. Thank goodness we have you to point out the real culprits.



Beringia

(4,316 posts)
22. The whole point is women speaking out
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 01:04 AM
Oct 2017

to stop this kind of closed door molestation. Woody would have them stay quiet. No one wins? What a joke. Weinstein being taken off his pedestal is winning for the women who spoke out.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
24. Woody Allen Should STFU.
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 12:17 PM
Oct 2017

He has no authority to speak about this at all, I'm very certain. He should just STFU.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
33. I know it sounds fucked up but Hollywood people follow there own drummer.........
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 12:59 PM
Oct 2017

The majority of artists are just different in Hollywood. Just saying, Although I know it sounds weird.

rock

(13,218 posts)
41. "... men should be able to wink at a woman ..."
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 03:30 PM
Oct 2017

And women should be able to 'poke men in the eye with a sharp pencil', to balance things out.

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