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Zoonart

(11,875 posts)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:52 AM Oct 2017

Why are Democrats leaving it to guys like Corker to pull the fire alarm?

I keep phoning and emailing day after day... WHERE ARE YOU? The Republicans are framing all of the issues... WHERE ARE YOU?
The country is in crisis... WHERE ARE YOU? Why are you not out on the capitol steps every day with a bull horn?

TAKE TURNS if you like but get out there and start demanding that the dangerous fucking moron in the White House be REMOVED.

Why are they not getting out in front of this parade? We cannot let guys like Corker and Kusinich own one single inch of the moral high ground, when they remained silent and let this monster take power.

Want to be president in 2020 Democrat? Get out in front of this and lead or stop asking me for money every time I email you to beg for action!

WHERE ARE YOU? So far, the Congressional Black Caucus are the only patriots to step up.















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Why are Democrats leaving it to guys like Corker to pull the fire alarm? (Original Post) Zoonart Oct 2017 OP
If the Dems do it, will look partisan. nt Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #1
Numerous Democrats have been doing so for months. Tanuki Oct 2017 #2
Al Green started impeaching Trump yesterday, it might take a few tries, but only needs to work once Not Ruth Oct 2017 #3
It is never going to work...you need to impeach in the GOP controlled house and and get Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #6
I read somewhere on DU that Democrats will take back the house in 2018 by 7 Not Ruth Oct 2017 #10
I hope...but we have a gerrymander. And it seems to me with the primarying of red state Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #14
I hate to be negative, but there is no chance for impeachment. None. bearsfootball516 Oct 2017 #17
Of course every Democrat is at fault because of Trump's actions... I am sure it could all Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #4
They aren't. You just ignore what people like maxine waters have been doing JI7 Oct 2017 #5
And Ted Lieu, probably the loudest Democrat voice against Trump Not Ruth Oct 2017 #7
Both great democrats from the los Angeles area JI7 Oct 2017 #11
Is everything the Democrats fault? Apparently some think so. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #12
If the Dems look like they are wanting to impeach, it will unify the repukes in 2018 & 2020 NightWatcher Oct 2017 #8
As you probably already know, Rep. Al Green introduced impeachment yesterday in the HR. femmocrat Oct 2017 #9
I did see that and I am aware of what Democrats have been doing. Zoonart Oct 2017 #13
I agree with you. femmocrat Oct 2017 #15
Sure, Trump is the fault of the Democrats Progressive dog Oct 2017 #16
In some respects, he is. Garrett78 Oct 2017 #19
So in some respects Progressive dog Oct 2017 #23
Because we don't have a voice in the media right now. Initech Oct 2017 #18
Hence my megaphone suggestion. Zoonart Oct 2017 #21
The actual elected Democrats are opposing Progressive dog Oct 2017 #24
Democrats have been speaking out against Trump and fighting his agenda since he took office emulatorloo Oct 2017 #20
the Dems are all on board, they are just waiting for more repugs to finally wake up Motley13 Oct 2017 #22

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
2. Numerous Democrats have been doing so for months.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:01 AM
Oct 2017

From February 17:

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/320018-democrats-raise-questions-about-trumps-mental-health

"A growing number of Democrats are openly questioning President Trump’s mental health.

Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) in a floor speech this week called for a review of the Constitution's procedures for removing a president. He warned the 25th Amendment of the Constitution falls short when it comes to mental or emotional fitness for office.

Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) during a weekend interviewwith CNN’s “State of the Union” said that “a few” Republican colleagues have expressed concern to him about Trump's mental health.

And Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) plans to introduce legislation that would require the presence of a psychiatrist or psychologist in the White House.

The Democrats justify their questions by pointing to Trump’s habit of making demonstrably false claims. At a press conference Thursday, he said he’d had the biggest Electoral College win since President Ronald Reagan, for example, when his margin was lower than either of President Obama’s wins.

Blumenauer told The Hill he started taking another look at the 25th Amendment because Trump had casually repeated easily disproven claims, such as stating that it wasn’t raining during his speech on Inauguration Day when it was.

“It’s not normal behavior. I don’t know anybody in a position of responsibility that doesn’t know if they’re being rained on. And nobody I work with serially offers up verifiably false statements on an ongoing basis,” he said in an interview steps from the House chamber.".....(more at link)



 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
3. Al Green started impeaching Trump yesterday, it might take a few tries, but only needs to work once
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:07 AM
Oct 2017

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
6. It is never going to work...you need to impeach in the GOP controlled house and and get
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:11 AM
Oct 2017

2/3 of the GOP controlled Senate for a conviction. I have better ways to occupy my time...like work to win the next election.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
14. I hope...but we have a gerrymander. And it seems to me with the primarying of red state
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:24 AM
Oct 2017

Dems, we may snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Even if we did get the house, we need 2/3 of the senate...there is no point in an impeachment unless you can convict and remove from office...as the GOP learned in 98 the hard way.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
17. I hate to be negative, but there is no chance for impeachment. None.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:40 AM
Oct 2017

Not when you need the majorities required in the House and Senate.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
4. Of course every Democrat is at fault because of Trump's actions... I am sure it could all
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:09 AM
Oct 2017

be fixed if only...

JI7

(89,260 posts)
5. They aren't. You just ignore what people like maxine waters have been doing
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:10 AM
Oct 2017

Corker gets attention since he is a republican and any effort to get rid of him would have to include them.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
8. If the Dems look like they are wanting to impeach, it will unify the repukes in 2018 & 2020
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:12 AM
Oct 2017

Plus the Dems cannot impeach him alone. I think it’s safe to assume that if/when it comes to votes, that Dems will vote to toss him out of office.

trump is self destructing without our help. The repukes are starting to open up to the possibility that he may need to go. We’re going to have to let them get to that point alone. They will not listen to us on this matter. We need the Corkers and Tillersons to attack him from the republican side of the aisle.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
9. As you probably already know, Rep. Al Green introduced impeachment yesterday in the HR.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:13 AM
Oct 2017

I watched an interview with him on MSNBC last night and I'm not sure that it was "Articles" of impeachment. They used a a lot of Congressional lingo about resolutions, etc. I think it was Chris Hayes who asked him if Nancy Pelosi told him to pull it back and of course he denied it and tossed around more procedural terms.

My impression was that the House democrats don't want to lead on this. It is a lot like when they would not do anything to or about the w. bush war crimes. Nada and now he is becoming an "acceptable" figure as a former president.

Zoonart

(11,875 posts)
13. I did see that and I am aware of what Democrats have been doing.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:20 AM
Oct 2017

My point. is that they should have it dialed up to eleven and they simply do not. I understand that we do not have the votes ot impeach, but we do have the ability too agitate and that is not being done. It is not being done in the House and it is not being done in the streets.

Standing back and watching the fire does not work for me. Some "responsible Republican" will sweep in and suck up all of the oxygen and we will loose again.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
15. I agree with you.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:24 AM
Oct 2017

I would like to see a more forceful opposition from the democrats too. I think there is a vacuum that needs to be filled with a firebrand who will ramp up the pressure on republicans to DO something already!

Sadly, I don't think this person is in the Congress right now and 2018 is a long way off.

Progressive dog

(6,917 posts)
16. Sure, Trump is the fault of the Democrats
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:26 AM
Oct 2017

The Democratic party is made up of people with minds of their own. I resent this kind of false equivalence, where the party to which Trump belongs, is given credit for having one or two percent of it's members actively oppose Trump.
Almost all Democrats oppose Trump and did from the beginning. That is not news.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
19. In some respects, he is.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:44 AM
Oct 2017

Will Rogers recognized long ago that the Democratic Party isn't very organized.

Race-based voter suppression and gerrymandering are monstrous issues, yet Democrats hardly say a peep about those matters. Bill Clinton had to get "tough on crime," promote free market ideology and let us know "the era of big government was over." Democrats let Republicans get away with labeling the mainstream media as "liberal," without talking about media consolidation.

And so on.

The Democratic Party has not been a forceful opposition lo these past several decades. As a result, a batshit crazy political party controls the White House, the US House, the US Senate, most governorships and most state legislative bodies.

Progressive dog

(6,917 posts)
23. So in some respects
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:04 PM
Oct 2017

everyone is guilty of electing Trump, so I'm wondering why someone would blame Democrats for Trump.

Initech

(100,097 posts)
18. Because we don't have a voice in the media right now.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:44 AM
Oct 2017

People like Bob Corker do though. Personally anyone who pisses off Trump right now, I'm all for it!

Zoonart

(11,875 posts)
21. Hence my megaphone suggestion.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:02 AM
Oct 2017

Set up on the Capitiol Steps every day and run it down over a bull horn. The Press willl come. iI our leaders won't do it the people should. We need to amp it up.

I don't know why everyone thinks we have until 2018 to get this right. The moron is threatening to start a war, the west is on fire and Puerto Rico is slipping away. Where is the sense of urgency?

Progressive dog

(6,917 posts)
24. The actual elected Democrats are opposing
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:09 PM
Oct 2017

Trump and his policies everyday. They are also working to prevent things from getting worse. They probably don't have the time or the motivation to spend their days seeing who can yell the loudest.

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