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krawhitham

(4,650 posts)
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:11 PM Oct 2017

Linda Sanchez 5th ranking House Democrat, "Time for Pelosi to move on"

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/354054-dem-rep-its-time-for-pelosi-to-step-down

Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-Calif.), the fifth-ranking House Democrat, in an interview published Thursday said it's time for Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and her leadership team to pass the torch to a new generation.

Sanchez, publicly reflecting views that are seldom heard among top Democrats in the House, added that she's like "to see that happen."

“I do think we have this real breadth and depth of talent within our caucus and I do think it’s time to pass a torch to a new generation of leaders and I want to be a part of that transition,” Sanchez told reporters from The Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times, who were conducting the interview on C-SPAN's "Newsmakers."

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/354054-dem-rep-its-time-for-pelosi-to-step-down
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Linda Sanchez 5th ranking House Democrat, "Time for Pelosi to move on" (Original Post) krawhitham Oct 2017 OP
I disagree! Nancy gets the job done! Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #1
Effing tired of squabble, squabble, squabble. nocalflea Oct 2017 #2
Amen and hallelujah! Laurian Oct 2017 #21
2nd that emotion! ATL Ebony Oct 2017 #45
Pelosi has had a great year- so nope. bettyellen Oct 2017 #3
Ahhh... a SANE post based on REALITY! Thank you, BettyEllen! xxx ooo NurseJackie Oct 2017 #36
No. It. Is. Not. nt chowder66 Oct 2017 #4
No. spanone Oct 2017 #5
The vote wasn't that long ago. Weekend Warrior Oct 2017 #6
Democratic Congress members who says stuff like this in an interview with The Hill SharonClark Oct 2017 #7
Time for Sanchez to shut up nini Oct 2017 #8
I see what you did there. Iggo Oct 2017 #10
I was being nice too! nini Oct 2017 #48
She might have just cut her own political throat. Not a wise move. brush Oct 2017 #27
Definitely nini Oct 2017 #47
If Pelosi wants to step down, ok ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #9
Nancy Pelosi still rocks pandr32 Oct 2017 #11
Gosh, ambitious politician callingfor three leaders above her to step down because they are older? bettyellen Oct 2017 #12
Ageism by Democrats is so destructive. delisen Oct 2017 #16
The Hill also tried to ignore the Sanders progressive vs "estab" Dem divide all the time.... bettyellen Oct 2017 #20
Time for Sanchez to shut up. redstatebluegirl Oct 2017 #13
I'd lkie to see Sanchez take a hike. She's a backstabber to a fabulous leader Rene Oct 2017 #14
Clearly she's a sexist Renew Deal Oct 2017 #15
She's pissed Pelosi and the Dems supported HArris over her sister for Senate. VermontKevin Oct 2017 #26
Doesn't make her wrong Renew Deal Oct 2017 #43
Well, it looks like there is the Dean approach and the Sanchez approach DFW Oct 2017 #17
Time for the next generation to step out in front of the arrows ... mulp Oct 2017 #18
Good Bernie swipe ... KPN Oct 2017 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Bleacher Creature Oct 2017 #19
No it isn't, dammit! frogmarch Oct 2017 #22
She is still pissed the Democratic leadership supported Harris instead of her sister.... Brother Buzz Oct 2017 #23
No way!!! Dem_4_Life Oct 2017 #24
Grrrrr *teeth grinding* Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2017 #25
Exactly. If one Dem had voted with the repugs that horrid trumpcare would now be the law. brush Oct 2017 #30
You know Pelosi is in the House not the Senate, right? Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #35
Oops. You're exactly right. She did do her part in the house though. brush Oct 2017 #46
A tad premature there Phoenix61 Oct 2017 #28
Yet she can't convince her colleagues to oust Nancy.... JHan Oct 2017 #29
Nancy's too effective? Blocking all the crazy Trump stuff? Greybnk48 Oct 2017 #31
Wow. Someone in the House KPN Oct 2017 #32
Young folks might want to start showing up to vote , then. Because they don't, octoberlib Oct 2017 #34
I agree. KPN Oct 2017 #37
Well, then if they don't like any of the candidates they should run themselves or octoberlib Oct 2017 #40
Yep. KPN Oct 2017 #41
That would be up to her constituents, and not you, Ms. Sanchez. n/t GoCubsGo Oct 2017 #38
And now MSNBC is getting into the act .Elaine Schor of Poli just said that Democrats can't take back octoberlib Oct 2017 #39
She must have slept through 2006. NT Bleacher Creature Oct 2017 #42
I remember when Sanchez first emerged in California politics... Wounded Bear Oct 2017 #44

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
2. Effing tired of squabble, squabble, squabble.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:24 PM
Oct 2017

With the opposing party down in the polls, a little cohesion could go a long way.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
6. The vote wasn't that long ago.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:32 PM
Oct 2017

The torch will be passed before long. Those making these statements now make little sense. We just held a vote.

Pelosi is awesome.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
7. Democratic Congress members who says stuff like this in an interview with The Hill
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:33 PM
Oct 2017

are too stupid to be in leadership. If they feel this way, they don't have to advertise it, they should go to Pelosi and Hoyer and have a "talk".

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
9. If Pelosi wants to step down, ok
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 01:45 PM
Oct 2017

Till then, shut up!

You would think that she would realize all this infighting is creating divisiveness in the party. I'm to the point now that I would believe it if someone told me she and Ryan (and anyone else calling for Pelosi's head) are Russian plants.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
12. Gosh, ambitious politician callingfor three leaders above her to step down because they are older?
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 02:08 PM
Oct 2017

Not too self serving.

delisen

(6,046 posts)
16. Ageism by Democrats is so destructive.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 02:24 PM
Oct 2017

At least come up with the objective reasons. (Maybe she did but The Hill chose to focus on this other aspect).

Many of the anti-leadership articles that focus on age seem to be coming from The Hill.

"I am ambitious. You are old. Get out of my way. I have a career to develop.


 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
20. The Hill also tried to ignore the Sanders progressive vs "estab" Dem divide all the time....
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 02:30 PM
Oct 2017

It's funny they didn't choose to use this angle here too. Maybe they also feel it's gotten tiresome.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
13. Time for Sanchez to shut up.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 02:21 PM
Oct 2017

We are in a perfect place to take over the house and senate in 2018. If we start going after each other we are doomed to 8 years of Trump and endless years of Ryan.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
17. Well, it looks like there is the Dean approach and the Sanchez approach
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 02:28 PM
Oct 2017

Just three nights ago, I heard Howard say (repeat, really) that it was time for younger leaders to step up and join the party leadership as eventual successors and top tier candidates. Howard said he and (some others) were setting up (a number of) recruitment venues to attract just such people to the Democratic leadership. The "old guard," he said, would stay on, but more and more as guiders who would slowly fade into the background (but still be available) as the younger ones gained confidence and ability. This is already in motion.

The Sanchez approach seems to be, "get lost old lady, there's a faster gun in town."

I don't yet see the superior merits of the Sanchez approach. Nor do I think it will win over other Democrats in Congress or their constituents.

mulp

(8 posts)
18. Time for the next generation to step out in front of the arrows ...
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 02:28 PM
Oct 2017

Pelosi isn't the leader because old people pushed her to the front to take all the arrows, but because she stepped up into the incoming arrows and charged forward with most following behind.

The only reason she isn't the number one target today is Ryan and McConnell have managed to lead the GOP in front of the hail of arrows normally aimed at Democrats.

Note that Bernie rejects ever having leadership. He advocates every man and woman for themselves with no collective action. He rejects parties because that means collective action. And that means one can speak for all, the leader.

Response to krawhitham (Original post)

Brother Buzz

(36,479 posts)
23. She is still pissed the Democratic leadership supported Harris instead of her sister....
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 02:34 PM
Oct 2017

in the California Senate race.


Sour grapes, nothing more, nothing less.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,446 posts)
25. Grrrrr *teeth grinding*
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:03 PM
Oct 2017

Not.helpful.now

Sanchez forget to mention that Pelosi is keeping the Democratic Caucus together and is, along with Schumer, leading Trump around by the nose on some things.

brush

(53,925 posts)
30. Exactly. If one Dem had voted with the repugs that horrid trumpcare would now be the law.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:14 PM
Oct 2017

Pelosi kept her caucus in place.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,982 posts)
35. You know Pelosi is in the House not the Senate, right?
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:28 PM
Oct 2017

Schumer gets credit for keeping the Senate in line.

Phoenix61

(17,021 posts)
28. A tad premature there
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:12 PM
Oct 2017

One day it will be time for Pelosi to move on. Today is not that day. She is doing a great job. I'm happily surprised at how well the Dems are sticking together. Who would have thought?

JHan

(10,173 posts)
29. Yet she can't convince her colleagues to oust Nancy....
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:13 PM
Oct 2017

The airing of dirty linen in public comes across like sour grapes - if she felt that strongly about it then she would do something about it instead of whining to a reporter.

Greybnk48

(10,178 posts)
31. Nancy's too effective? Blocking all the crazy Trump stuff?
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:15 PM
Oct 2017

I think I want to know more about Linda Sanchez after she made this suggestion.

KPN

(15,665 posts)
32. Wow. Someone in the House
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:15 PM
Oct 2017

stepping up instead of waiting to be selected by the old guard.

This will be interesting to watch. Pelosi's been a strong and effective leader, but nothing wrong with the younger generation challenging the status quo. It's actually pretty exciting ... the party needs new leaders if it hopes to inspire and win over the younger generation. At least that's what I hear consistently from young folks.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
34. Young folks might want to start showing up to vote , then. Because they don't,
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:24 PM
Oct 2017

especially in mid-terms.

KPN

(15,665 posts)
37. I agree.
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:32 PM
Oct 2017

The ones I know and have talked with do or say they didn't because they are in a strongly blue State and weren't inspired by any candidate. By "inspired" I mean they didn't have great confidence that the candidate represented their values or views on issues and priorities.

But again, this is in a very strongly blue State. I have been encouraging them to start attending out county Dem Party central committee meetings and two have actually been doing so. I'll keep working on the others.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
40. Well, then if they don't like any of the candidates they should run themselves or
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:35 PM
Oct 2017

get somebody they do like to run. Democracy's hard work.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
39. And now MSNBC is getting into the act .Elaine Schor of Poli just said that Democrats can't take back
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 03:33 PM
Oct 2017

the House with Pelosi as Speaker. Stirring up divisions..

Wounded Bear

(58,751 posts)
44. I remember when Sanchez first emerged in California politics...
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 04:18 PM
Oct 2017

She was obviously very ambitious then. That in itself is not necessarily bad, but she's off base here and this is an obvious attempt to take over the party in the House.

I prefer to set all this aside until after 2018. Now is a shitty time to pull this kind of party coup. I'm all for newer, younger leadership for the party, but it should emerge organically, not as a result of some grandstand move through the media. Nancy fund-raises like a badass, and as for "repubs hate her," so what? That should be a fucking rallying cry for our party, not some reason to melt in fear and let the Repubs control which candidates Dems run, or a backstabbing way to weaken our leadership unnecessarily. Electing someone that Repubs don't hate is a bad thing IMNSHO. If I wanted someone the Repubs liked, I'd vote Repub, and I wouldn't be around here much.

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