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Is Las Vegas the worst mass shooting in US history? Its surprisingly complicated.
It depends on what counts as a mass shooting and the typical definition leaves out some pretty bad attacks.
Its already been said again and again in the span of a day: The shooting at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas, with at least 58 dead and hundreds injured, was the deadliest mass shooting in American history. But was it really? The answer, it turns out, is surprisingly complicated. The short version: It was definitely the deadliest mass shooting in recent history. But if you look further back in the USs past, the real answer depends on how you define a mass shooting.
The National Association of Black Journalists and the National Association of Hispanic Journalists, for example, pointed to two past attacks as examples of previous massacres with higher death tolls than the Las Vegas shooting. In 1873, an all-black militia defended a local courthouse in Colfax, Louisiana fearing, at the height of racial tensions after the Civil War, that white supremacists were about to topple the regional government, which was evenly split between white and black citizens at the time. Soon after, a mob of more than 150 white men made up of Southern Democrats, former Confederate soldiers, members of the Ku Klux Klan, and the paramilitary White League surrounded the courthouse and attacked. Three white men and as many as 150 black men died, according to Smithsonian.com.
Another example: The 1917 East St. Louis Massacre a white-led race riot left at least 39 black people and nine white people dead, according to official estimates. But as Smithsonian.com noted, its widely believed that more than 100 black people were killed during the three-day massacre.
There are many such events throughout American history, from the destruction of Black Wall Street in Tulsa, Oklahoma, to the 1919 mass lynching in Arkansas. After the Civil War and during the ensuing 100-year struggle for basic civil rights protections, white groups often lashed out in violence to try to assert their control of the South and a lot of people, particularly black Americans, died.
Before that, there were also horrific attacks on Native American populations, such as the Sand Creek Massacre. (Although many of these events can be seen as acts of war.)
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https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/10/2/16401510/las-vegas-shooting-deadliest
SunSeeker
(51,646 posts)niyad
(113,518 posts)Kaleva
(36,327 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,085 posts)"modern US history"
The critics believe the qualifier should be left off. (There's at least one thread on DU to that effect.)
Kaleva
(36,327 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,691 posts)the two examples in the excerpt involved large groups of people on both sides shooting it out.
If you define what you're talking about as "mass shootings perpetrated by one, or maybe two shooters" I think Las Vegas takes the cake. Nothing in the 1800's or most of even the 20th Century would have even been possible with concurrent weapons technology.
I'd say it's not the worst "massacre" by far, but it is probably the worst ever carried out by less than 5 people shooting.
sarisataka
(18,737 posts)To categorize Rank and grade things.
However I do not feel it is helpful to hand out Carnage prizes. You know there is someone out there, who may never do anything, that is thinking "how can I become the new number one?"
IMO it's even worse than telling hurricane survivors that somebody else's hurricane was worse. What kind of an asshole does such a thing?
Aside from the gotcha! factor of our ghoulish news cycle, I can see no value in setting up a massacre leader board. Do you think that the survivors of the attack are comforted knowing that they might have been in the worst mass shooting in US history?
Mendocino
(7,504 posts)38 children, 6 adults and the perp blew up a school. The Bath School Disaster happened in Michigan, May 1927.
VOX
(22,976 posts)But every once in awhile, it strikes me how incredibly violent Americans have been to each other (not to mention other countries). Everything from genocide to lynchings to civil war to mass killings, on and on. And it never stops; any wisdom gained from these heinous acts is soon forgotten.
malaise
(269,157 posts)Check what they've done overseas
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The score-keeping in our culture.