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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNY Times: In Japan the odds of being shot by a gun is the same as being hit by lightening .....
..... in South Korea the odds are the same as being crushed by a large object.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/14/upshot/compare-these-gun-death-rates-the-us-is-in-a-different-world.html
It is the guns. End of story.
Gun homicides are a common cause of death in the United States, killing about as many people as car crashes (not counting van, truck, motorcycle or bus accidents). Some cases command our attention more than others, of course. Counting mass shootings that make headlines and the thousands of Americans murdered one or a few at a time, gunshot homicides totaled 8,124 in 2014, according to the F.B.I.
This level of violence makes the United States an extreme outlier when measured against the experience of other advanced countries.
Around the world, those countries have substantially lower rates of deaths from gun homicide. In Germany, being murdered with a gun is as uncommon as being killed by a falling object in the United States. About two people out of every million are killed in a gun homicide. Gun homicides are just as rare in several other European countries, including the Netherlands and Austria. In the United States, two per million is roughly the death rate for hypothermia or plane crashes.
In Poland and England, only about one out of every million people die in gun homicides each year about as often as an American dies in an agricultural accident or falling from a ladder. In Japan, where gun homicides are even rarer, the likelihood of dying this way is about the same as an Americans chance of being killed by lightning roughly one in 10 million.
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)There are other hallmarks such as robust public healthcare and education, vibrant public sector, healthy climate, culture, shared work ethic and sacrifices for the common good, and the list goes on.
Botany
(70,561 posts)As a kid our next door neighbor's brother in a very middle class neighborhood
was Ray Shafer, Governor of PA.. He supported all those values and used to play
ball with the kids too.
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)It was Reagan and the culture of greed that transformed them into the monsters that they are today.
Botany
(70,561 posts).... supported unions too.
BigmanPigman
(51,623 posts)downward spiral and eventually demise.
DFW
(54,434 posts)The odds of getting hit by a bullet while standing outside a casino just went up a thousandfold.
Being killed with a gun here: Is about as likely as
dying of ________ in the U.S. Deaths per mil.
El Salvador Heart attack 446.3
Mexico Pancreatic cancer 121.7
United States Car accident* 31.2
Chile Motorcycle accident 14.3
Israel Building fire 7.5
Canada Alcohol poisoning 5.6
Ireland Drowning in a lake, river or ocean 4.8
Netherlands Accidental gas poisoning 2.3
Germany Contact with a thrown or falling object 2.1
France Hypothermia 2.0
Austria Drowning in a swimming pool 1.9
Australia Falling from a building or structure 1.7
China Plane crash 1.6
Spain Exposure to excessive natural heat 1.6
New Zealand Falling from a ladder 1.5
Poland Bicycle-car crash 1.1
England Contact with agricultural machinery 0.9
Norway Accidental hanging or strangulation 0.9
Iceland Electrocution 0.6
Scotland Cataclysmic storms 0.5
South Korea Being crushed or pinched between objects 0.4
Japan Lightning strike 0.1
Orrex
(63,220 posts)According to the oft-quoted LaPierre Propaganda Playbook, we must dismiss any nation that shows a reduction in gun crime following increased restrictions on gun possession.
However, an isolated incident involving deliberate vehicular homicide somewhere in the world is taken as proof that all objects are equally lethal.
They're a zany bunch, those gun advocates!