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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:48 AM Oct 2017

Three Major Bombshell Trump/Russia Stories You Missed Yesterday

POSTED BY: BRIAN KRASSENSTEIN OCTOBER 3, 2017

Because of the tragic shooting, which took place in Las Vegas to start the week off, much of the media and the public’s attention was obviously focused away from the ongoing Trump/Russia investigation. That, by no means, should indicate that things have stalled. In fact, the last 36 hours have been incredibly eventful from a media perspective. There are three major stories which broke over the last 12-36 hours, related to the Trump/Russia investigation. Below is a brief summary of each, just in case you may have missed them.

Mueller Tasks an Adviser With Getting Ahead of Possible Preemptive Trump Pardons
Bloomberg is reporting this morning that Robert Mueller has tasked one of his key advisers, Michael Dreeben, at trying to get ahead of any possible preemptive pardon that President Trump may decide to use on his campaign staff, administration officials, family members or even himself. Dreeben is a career government lawyer who has made more than 100 Supreme Court appearances. According to Bloomberg, Dreeban has been tasked with studying past presidential pardons in order to figure out what, if any limits, apply to the President should he decide to begin to issue free passes to those around him.

Jared Kushner & Ivanka Trump Had a Third Private Email Account Which Received 100’s of White House Emails
It was reported last night that Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump didn’t only each use their own personal emails to receive correspondence from the White House, but that there was a third private email account used by the couple and the Kushner family to receive emails from the White House. According to sources speaking to Politico on the condition of anonymity, the topics discussed in these emails included non-public travel documents, internal schedules and official White House materials.

New Manafort Emails Expose Quid Pro Quo With Russia
It has already been assumed that Paul Manafort had deep ties with those close to the Kremlin, but details on emails which leaked this week now indicate that there was a clear quid pro quo between Manafort and a Russian oligarch. According to the emails released by The Atlantic, Manafort used his position within the Trump campaign to try and curry favors with Putin ally, Vladimirovich Deripaska.

“I assume you have shown our friends my media coverage, right?” Manafort wrote to Konstantin Kilimnik, one of Manafort’s old lieutenants he worked with on Ukraine matters .

“Absolutely, every article,” Kilimnik responded a few hours later from Kiev.

“How do we use to get whole,” Manafort asks. “Has OVD [Oleg Vladimirovich Deripaska, a Russian oligarch and one of Russia’s richest men] operation seen?”



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Three Major Bombshell Trump/Russia Stories You Missed Yesterday (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2017 OP
K&Rd. ghostsinthemachine Oct 2017 #1
Nice work you did here. Thanks for posting! PearliePoo2 Oct 2017 #2
It's up to him to save the country because the repugs won't. They just want trump to sign off... brush Oct 2017 #3
This is our mostly excellent system at work. If he weren't leading the investigation, Hortensis Oct 2017 #13
Thank you. I did miss that 1st important story. Duppers Oct 2017 #4
Me too. He is trying to plan ahead BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #25
Direct line to Schneiderman. DAMANgoldberg Oct 2017 #35
K&R smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #5
Wow...thanks for this post. Had only seen one of these yesterday :-( Love Mueller's diligence. iluvtennis Oct 2017 #6
great job - thanks so much rurallib Oct 2017 #7
Bombshell K and R oasis Oct 2017 #8
Kick for exposure genxlib Oct 2017 #9
Thanks! I missed them all NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #10
excellent gopiscrap Oct 2017 #11
I'm sure Andrea emails Mitchell will be all over Jared and Ivanka. (Sarcasm) sarcasmo Oct 2017 #12
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #14
The wheels of justice, once started, grind on. In unusually fast gear. :) Hortensis Oct 2017 #15
Wow! The 2nd one is especially big FakeNoose Oct 2017 #16
Now, what happens if Trump preemptively fires Mueller? NewJeffCT Oct 2017 #17
In re: "getting ahead of pardons" LudwigPastorius Oct 2017 #18
Thanks. I had only heard of the middle one. Ilsa Oct 2017 #19
This investigation is getting very serious Gothmog Oct 2017 #20
K&R bdamomma Oct 2017 #21
KnR Hekate Oct 2017 #22
K & R Thank You for all the work you do for DU. Outstanding Post. no text Stuart G Oct 2017 #23
With recent revelations, the darkest theory of the 2016 campaign becomes extremely plausible L. Coyote Oct 2017 #24
Exhibit A: Treason. Selling access to our country for personal profit. lindysalsagal Oct 2017 #26
Don't watch it, just listen. raven mad Oct 2017 #27
Thanks for posting this k&r n/t lordsummerisle Oct 2017 #28
K&R Scurrilous Oct 2017 #29
K & R Achilleaze Oct 2017 #30
K & R FailureToCommunicate Oct 2017 #31
Meeting people D/R and hearing that they want to see Trump and the others prosecuted rockfordfile Oct 2017 #32
K&R... spanone Oct 2017 #33
Oleg Vladimirovich Deripaska...isn't he the guy that bought Trump's Crash2Parties Oct 2017 #34

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
2. Nice work you did here. Thanks for posting!
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:18 AM
Oct 2017

At the Bloomberg link, there's a good video about Robert Mueller that's worth watching.
This dedicated, honorable man is doing the most important work of his life. Godspeed, Sir!

K&R

brush

(53,840 posts)
3. It's up to him to save the country because the repugs won't. They just want trump to sign off...
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:35 AM
Oct 2017

on their agenda.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. This is our mostly excellent system at work. If he weren't leading the investigation,
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:13 PM
Oct 2017

another good person would be. They're not really in short supply, and our government institutions are proving to be more resilient and less easy to corrupt than we feared.

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
25. Me too. He is trying to plan ahead
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 05:16 PM
Oct 2017

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and thinking what the fake prez could possibly due to save his ass and his staff/family. He had better not be allowed to pardon anyone! If there is no precedent (and there isn't for much of what has been happening) I wonder what they can legally do to stop him from derailing the whole thing as it gets closer and closer to him personally.

DAMANgoldberg

(1,278 posts)
35. Direct line to Schneiderman.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 04:57 AM
Oct 2017

Evidence encrypted sharing with his office. Can't pardon for state crimes in New York, and they would have standing.

genxlib

(5,531 posts)
9. Kick for exposure
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 11:58 AM
Oct 2017

That last one slipped by me. there has been a lot reported about Manafort and ties to the Ukraine. But I don't think I have seen it laid out quite that starkly.

I can only imagine what Mueller knows if this is the publicly available stuff.

I swear I need one of those bulletin boards with the photos, pins and strings to follow this story. I think the biggest problem my yet be that it is simply too complicated for the average American to pay attention to.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
10. Thanks! I missed them all
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:06 PM
Oct 2017

Like most people, I was careening between sorrow and rage yesterday. None of this looks good for Trumpdom!

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
12. I'm sure Andrea emails Mitchell will be all over Jared and Ivanka. (Sarcasm)
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:10 PM
Oct 2017


Every 5th word out of Andrea's mouth during the campaign was, EMAILS.

FakeNoose

(32,726 posts)
16. Wow! The 2nd one is especially big
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:49 PM
Oct 2017

We already knew about Manafort's (Trump's) quid pro quo with Putin so yeah, it's nice to know they can prove it now.

But the 2nd one about the secret private emails between the Kushners and the White House. Cheeto never sends emails because he can't type (or spell.) So he probably had one of his staff sending stuff to the Kushners, including travel plans and meet-ups with certain Russians. This is where the shit gets real.



NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
17. Now, what happens if Trump preemptively fires Mueller?
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:52 PM
Oct 2017

I know Trump has been advised not to do it, but he's not very good at listening to the advice of others. Plus, if he feels Team Mueller closing in, he may think he has no other option.

With Watergate, there were a few honorable Republicans that convinced Nixon to resign. With Republicans driving the media coverage and far less honor among Republicans, can we expect a repeat even if Trump's crimes are far more serious than Nixon's crimes?

(Grassley has been preparing a bill to prevent the firing of Mueller for a while now - will it ever see the light of day? Can we even trust he's actually doing this?)

LudwigPastorius

(9,167 posts)
18. In re: "getting ahead of pardons"
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:09 PM
Oct 2017

The good news: This means that Mueller expects, or is preparing, to seek indictments and possibly prosecute people.

The bad news: The power of presidential pardon is explicit and broad according to the Constitution and legal precedent. Dreeben would have to be a wizard to get the conservative-leaning Supreme Court to abandon stare decisis and rule that a pre-emptive pardon is unconstitutional.

lindysalsagal

(20,726 posts)
26. Exhibit A: Treason. Selling access to our country for personal profit.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 05:40 PM
Oct 2017

At some point in our history, treason must have carried a death penalty. Anyone know?

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
34. Oleg Vladimirovich Deripaska...isn't he the guy that bought Trump's
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 01:03 AM
Oct 2017

distressed, unoccupied, run down property for $13 million higher ($98m total) than any other (not distressed!) mansion for sale in the area, bar none?

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