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Earlier they were reporting there was nothing out of the ordinary at the shooter's home. (Original Post) spanone Oct 2017 OP
Sadly I am starting to think that might be ordinary. BlueState Oct 2017 #1
Press conference also stated lapfog_1 Oct 2017 #8
His brother said he was just an average guy! MoonRiver Oct 2017 #16
I saw that interview. Raine1967 Oct 2017 #25
I can't believe that none of them saw any warning signs, MoonRiver Oct 2017 #29
Most average guys have 2 airplanes womanofthehills Oct 2017 #30
I heard he was an accountant. eom MoonRiver Oct 2017 #31
Nothing at all unusual , well there Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #2
You sure about the tanks? ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #5
Couple of flame throwers too. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #11
Oh come on! ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #17
I am selling an original , signed copy of Mein Kamph, not signed by Adolf, by Trump Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #18
Are you going to sell a pair of Dotard's underwear, too? ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #22
Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #32
I am starting to speculate he has more secrets GusBob Oct 2017 #3
Some thing is going on. Demtexan Oct 2017 #4
there's a lot of rampant 'speculation' going on by lots of 'experts' spanone Oct 2017 #7
Sheriff stated he could not deny, was the question Watchfoxheadexplodes Oct 2017 #6
Wait three months ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #9
true. probably longer. spanone Oct 2017 #13
Early reporting can be such a pant load eleny Oct 2017 #10
they initially reported 10 at the hotel...not it's 16 and 18 at the house....fog of war i guess spanone Oct 2017 #12
Needing all that weaponry in the first place is a long term mindset, imo eleny Oct 2017 #21
It can happen very quicklt and he had the money to make it happen. Jim Beard Oct 2017 #27
I think they meant nothing unusual aside from the guns. JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #14
they didn't report on any guns...this was around 10am...said all appeared normal spanone Oct 2017 #20
Apparently that's ordinary in Nevada malaise Oct 2017 #15
LasVegas is very close to Kingman Arizona. Remember where the Oklahma City bombing was planned. Jim Beard Oct 2017 #34
Tanks for that malaise Oct 2017 #36
The Nichols family lived here Nevernose Oct 2017 #39
You can walk into a hotel in any state with a cache of weapons oberliner Oct 2017 #42
Here is a second ammendment question rufus dog Oct 2017 #19
Im with your direction of thought. Weekend Warrior Oct 2017 #23
If he was skilled in their use and they were well maintained hack89 Oct 2017 #26
I am skilled with many things rufus dog Oct 2017 #28
Cooking meth is not a civil right hack89 Oct 2017 #37
who the fuck said I was cooking meth? N/T rufus dog Oct 2017 #40
You did I think. hack89 Oct 2017 #43
I asked if I could buy mass quantities of sudafed rufus dog Oct 2017 #44
Fundamental difference hack89 Oct 2017 #45
18 guns and multiple explosives found in the house . New normal? lunasun Oct 2017 #24
And more detail BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #33
But his father was a pschopathic suicidal criminal. betsuni Oct 2017 #35
I suspect his DNA may tell LE something TheOther95Percent Oct 2017 #38
We speculate, that's what we do at this point GusBob Oct 2017 #41
GSK and EAR Boards Are Talking About Him TheOther95Percent Oct 2017 #46

lapfog_1

(29,227 posts)
8. Press conference also stated
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:54 PM
Oct 2017

"a large quantity of explosives" found at the home.

Pretty sure that would be considered "out of the ordinary"...

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
25. I saw that interview.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:16 PM
Oct 2017

The brother in Florida said that he saw nothing out of the ordinary, he also said he was not close with his murderous brother.

I read someplace else that a second brother has not talked to him in about 10 years.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
29. I can't believe that none of them saw any warning signs,
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:24 PM
Oct 2017

unless they consider collecting an arsenal of assault weapons "normal."

Eliot Rosewater

(31,125 posts)
2. Nothing at all unusual , well there
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:51 PM
Oct 2017

are several Panzer I. and Panzer II. and Panzer III.

German tanks, but other than that, very ordinary.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
17. Oh come on!
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:59 PM
Oct 2017

That's absolutely NOTHING. Everybody has a statue of Adolph in their back yard. Why, I just painted mine in pearlescent white to protect it from the winter weather. Now I'm looking into a statue of Benito. I found one close by on Craigs List, but I have no way of transporting it.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
22. Are you going to sell a pair of Dotard's underwear, too?
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:04 PM
Oct 2017

Adolph's went for $7K. If no one wants to buy Dotard's underwear, you could always try to sell it as a circus tent!

Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #2)

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
4. Some thing is going on.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:53 PM
Oct 2017

We may never know.

He was a angry white man.

I hope they search his past really well.

I just wonder why that place at that time.

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
6. Sheriff stated he could not deny, was the question
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:54 PM
Oct 2017

Did paddock work for a federal agency?

Did I hear that right?

eleny

(46,166 posts)
10. Early reporting can be such a pant load
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:55 PM
Oct 2017

I heard that he had a whole bunch of them in his hotel room. But I haven't been able to watch or listen to a lot of minute to minute news today.

spanone

(135,891 posts)
12. they initially reported 10 at the hotel...not it's 16 and 18 at the house....fog of war i guess
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:57 PM
Oct 2017

eleny

(46,166 posts)
21. Needing all that weaponry in the first place is a long term mindset, imo
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:04 PM
Oct 2017

This sounds like it took a heck of a lot of planning. And then getting so much into the hotel room had to take a fair amount of time. It'll take a while to get the straight scoop on him.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
27. It can happen very quicklt and he had the money to make it happen.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:18 PM
Oct 2017

Most of the others didn't have the resources.

 

JoeStuckInOH

(544 posts)
14. I think they meant nothing unusual aside from the guns.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 06:58 PM
Oct 2017

Obviously... he would have had lots of guns & ammo.

spanone

(135,891 posts)
20. they didn't report on any guns...this was around 10am...said all appeared normal
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:01 PM
Oct 2017

maybe they just looked in the window

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
39. The Nichols family lived here
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:14 PM
Oct 2017

The kid was in school during the bombing. The 911 hijackers all met here the week before for a final run-down. The Manson Family did their grocery shopping here. I could go on and on like that.

Las Vegas tends to attract weirdos. Sometimes those weirdos are very, very evil.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
42. You can walk into a hotel in any state with a cache of weapons
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:26 PM
Oct 2017

At no hotel that I know of is your luggage searched upon check in.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
19. Here is a second ammendment question
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:00 PM
Oct 2017

What part of 20 weapons fits the 'well regulated' part of the 2A?

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
23. Im with your direction of thought.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:14 PM
Oct 2017

Not that you Agee with what follows.

I personally believe the Florida National Guard is a well regulated militia in place with one goal being to protect me from the federal government. This was proven out during the death of Terri Schiavo.

Beyond that I could go as far as saying any well regulated militia should be registered, members and Arsenal’s kept by the militia, and a charter established. That’s as far as I can go. Unfortunatley, the current court strongly disagrees with me on the 2nd’s reading.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
26. If he was skilled in their use and they were well maintained
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:17 PM
Oct 2017

then they were well regulated. Regulated has several definitions.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
43. You did I think.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:48 PM
Oct 2017

I assumed the two sentences you wrote are related to each other. Perhaps you can decipher your post for me.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
44. I asked if I could buy mass quantities of sudafed
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:03 PM
Oct 2017

You jumped to the conclusion that by purchasing mass quantities of sudafed that I was going to use it for illegal means.

Now using that same logic, someone buying mass quantities of automatic weapons (and fuck the semi argument, if a gun can be modified to an automatic it needs to be classified as such) is up to no good.

Now some may say a person shouldn't be able to buy that many guns, others may say that a person buying that many guns should have to go through background checks, perhaps even explain the use for collecting the arsenal, and gun show loopholes should be closed.



hack89

(39,171 posts)
45. Fundamental difference
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 09:09 PM
Oct 2017

Owning a gun is a civil right. We don't have to justify exercising a civil right to the government. Background checks are fine - the shooter passed several of them. By gun show loop hole I assume you are discussing universal background checks - I support those.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
24. 18 guns and multiple explosives found in the house . New normal?
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:15 PM
Oct 2017

They are saying he was a real normal guy and had an ordinary home

BumRushDaShow

(129,626 posts)
33. And more detail
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:29 PM
Oct 2017
<...>

The police found an arsenal in the gunman’s hotel room.

At least 17 firearms, including a handgun, were found in Mr. Paddock’s hotel room, said Sheriff Joseph Lombardo of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department. Some were rifles equipped with scopes, he said, adding that Mr. Paddock used multiple rifles during the attack.

A federal law enforcement official earlier said there were at least 20 rifles in the suite, along with hundreds of rounds of ammunition, including two rifles outfitted with scopes and set up on tripods in front of two big windows. Another official said that among the weapons were AR-15-style assault rifles. Both officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to divulge details of the investigation.

The police also found ammonium nitrate, a fertilizer that can be used in explosives, in Mr. Paddock’s car in Las Vegas.

In addition to the weapons at the hotel, the sheriff said the police retrieved “in excess of” 18 firearms, as well as explosives, several thousand rounds of ammunition and “electronic devices” from Mr. Paddock’s home in Mesquite, Nev. He said the police were evaluating the electronic devices, which he did not describe.

<...>

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooting.html


Yup - "typical".

betsuni

(25,676 posts)
35. But his father was a pschopathic suicidal criminal.
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 07:36 PM
Oct 2017

Just saw that on the news. I'm going with heredity.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
41. We speculate, that's what we do at this point
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:24 PM
Oct 2017

So his latest neighbors describe him as very unfriendly and secretive. earlier Floirda neighbors said he was very open and gave them key to his house

It is reported that he lived in 27 different residences. He was into rental properties so that might explain that

But all that moving around is one way to cover up criminal activity.

His companion knows his secrets.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
46. GSK and EAR Boards Are Talking About Him
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 08:50 AM
Oct 2017

The Golden State Killer and East Area Rapist boards have mentioned him as a possible suspect. My sister is retired LE in CA and she participates on those boards. Told me that Paddock's height doesn't fit with eyewitness accounts.

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