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(7,299 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)So there is that.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)onenote
(42,782 posts)If you've got contrary data, it would be interesting to see it and compare.
As for Twitter, the numbers for 50-64 aren't that much different than 30-50.
http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/11/11/social-media-update-2016/
Takket
(21,644 posts)Zoonart
(11,887 posts)Not because I'm old. I abstain for political reasons.
mitch96
(13,929 posts)Nobody can twitter my facebook in public!
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malaise
(269,219 posts)and have no plan of joining either
hlthe2b
(102,419 posts)However, I refuse to register on facebook, twitter, instagram or any of the seeming countless social media platforms. I value my privacy.
MiniMe
(21,719 posts)I have a facebook account, and I use it. But I don't post anything personal or political on the account. Some people share way too much.
jrthin
(4,839 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,496 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Post on message boards and discussion forums, use social media, etc.
obamanut2012
(26,158 posts)Women that age and much older often do have at least FB, but I know lots of men who don't. So...
BumRushDaShow
(129,662 posts)and don't do twitter or facebook or snapchat or any of that other stuff. I may read what others post on those venues (when publicly accessible) but I have no accounts on such.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)coverage of what's happening there has virtually disappeared from CNN and MSNBC in favor of wall-to-wall coverage of a dead shooter, people dead and beyond help, injured people who are being helped by professionals and don't need our attention?
We were worrying passionately about Puerto Rico yesterday. Did it sink into the water under the weight of its misery and just disappear? Or are theese poor, dead people in LV being used as a ring in our noses to turn us away?
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)JI7
(89,279 posts)highplainsdem
(49,045 posts)lapfog_1
(29,228 posts)I helped invent the Internet... wrote software for the Arpanet back in the early 1970's.
I've had email since the early 1980s.
Friends of mine and I invented some of those acronyms like LOL and ROTFLMAO etc.
I have a twitter account and a facebook account ( and a myspace account before that)... but I do not really use them.
The only "social media" I really use is "linked in" and then only for my professional purpose.
Oh, and DU!
burnbaby
(685 posts)in Cambridge ?
lapfog_1
(29,228 posts)wrote software for the BBN IMP however... as an undergrad in college. Interface between the IMP and an IBM 370 and a Honeywell 66/60.
burnbaby
(685 posts)didn't last too long. I'm trying to get two more years out of this business, but it is not looking good
mitch96
(13,929 posts)I don't know why but I still remember the boot sequence... Old habits die hard..
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burnbaby
(685 posts)I remember when the vax 750 was suppose to be the best of times!! I thought going from 16bpi tapes to 32 bpi tapes was fabulous. LOL ok we are old
mitch96
(13,929 posts)that would hold only 1k of data.... whooo hooo!!
I think the one we used was a PDP 11-34
Yes we are antiques... or is it that we are "legacy" models...
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burnbaby
(685 posts)did you ever put one in the wrong way? I didn't but a woman I worked with did. Powdered dust ever where, disk crash had a different meaning back then. She almost got fired
I feel so close to you and we are a legacy in our own mind
Bengus81
(6,936 posts)fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Lots of folks don't realize there was "internet" before the http Web.
lapfog_1
(29,228 posts)As we joked in our class... "Much has been written about the Arpanet... we are here to write a little more"
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)If if he has Facebook and it was full of anti trump or Hillary
Would we ever know?
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,467 posts)Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Part of what I do for a living is look at people social media lives when we are considering them for employment that involves a security clearance. I don't do the clearance investigations, what I do is weed out the people who won't get one so we don't waste time and money bring them and submitting a cleanrace that later gets denied.
Over age 50 it's very common for people to have no social media presence or very minimal. If your under 50 it starts looking odd. Under 45 and it raises alarm bells and makes me dig deep.
It is also more and more common to find people using modified version of their names or fake names on social media these day. While it violates the terms of service for most services it's not enforced at all.
And lots of people on the advice of people who help people job hunt run two pages anymore, if they are the kind that have any political or other posts that may not be liked by all. It's not uncommon for "John Gibson" who is a neo-Confederate to have his regular John Gibson page with posts about Jesus and grandkids and pictures of his dogs that gets barely any use, but also have a page with a name like "Johnny Reb G" where he posts all his neo-confederate garbage and is in all the hate group pages. When he applies for jobs and people search him out they just see the public face page.
However there are lots of tools out there that let me link up pages with people, based on mutual friends, posting habits, posting locations etc that let me know that the two pages appear related, then I can dig from there. I used that example because it's one I found not long ago with different names but same concept.
It may be that he has social media it's just not under a name anyone is associating with him yet. But LE has the tools to find that if it's there.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)...and turned him back to America at the control point. That was on NPR a decade ago.
peggysue2
(10,844 posts)Although most people regardless of age are computer/internet oriented (even my 89 year old mother-in-law had her own computer), many older Americans are not on social media platforms. However, the cops could glean information by looking at the man's search history along with neighbor and family input. His family (brother) seemed to be caught off guard and had no information.
Read this morning that there was a woman at the concert who was yelling "You're all going to die tonight." Not sure if that's been verified but the article said she was escorted from the area. Could be a coincidence--some crazy person--or just a story circulated throughout the crowd. Also a companion, a woman, has been located out of country who does not appear connected to the shooting.
Sounds like another tragic, senseless act of violence. Makes you wonder if it will ever stop. Or if this is simply the new normal.
Awful.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)I'm not surprised.
Now, maybe if he was half that age...
roamer65
(36,747 posts)That is illegal.
northoftheborder
(7,575 posts)Just heard on MSNBC that Nevada has NO gun laws. No registration, no limit, no nothing.
cevans1775
(2 posts)"There are generally three ways to own a NFA weapon: as an individual, through a gun trust, or as a Limited Liability Company (LLC). Legal possession of an NFA firearm by an individual requires transfer of registration within the NFA registry. An individual owner does not need to be an NFA dealer to buy Title II. The sale and purchase of NFA is, however, taxed and regulated, as follows:
All NFA items must be registered with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Private owners wishing to purchase an NFA item must obtain approval from the ATF, pass an extensive background check to include submitting a photograph and fingerprints, fully register the firearm, receive ATF written permission before moving the firearm across state lines, and pay a tax.[21] The request to transfer ownership of an NFA item is made on an ATF Form 4.[22]"
Since he was not able to legally obtain a firearm capable of the rate of fire observed without an extensive background check and federal registration through the ATF, there are three possible ways he could have obtained these weapons:
1- The ATF background check (typically an 8-12 month process) did not discover any issues that would have red-flagged him from being able to legally establish an NFA Title II trust and purchase these types of firearms, along with the required tax stamp issued by the ATF.
2- He purchased the firearms illegally, through a black-market source either in the US, or smuggled from abroad. Could also be a legitimate dealer who illegally sold the firearm to him, but not likely at all, since that weapon can still be traced back to the FFL. A legitimate dealer doing that would be about as smart as stealing a cell phone and using it with the original SIM card. They're pretty much guaranteed to get caught.
3- He, or someone else, illegally manufactured the weapons, or illegally modified a standard single-shot weapon. Both of these require a great deal of skill, and access to expensive manufacturing equipment. However, there are cases of illegal firearms being made by hand in places like the Philippines. Based on the performance of the weapons in the video, they were not likely made by hand.
Not trying to argue one way or the other. Just stating what we know, in order to narrow down the next logical step in determining how this could happen. It is very clear that he didn't just walk into the local gun store and buy these off the shelf without an extensive amount of oversight, or at least that oversight being required by law. We can't at this point rule out a failure in the human element throughout the process(corrupt/inept govt officials, dealer acting illegally, etc.). Hopefully we will get more details as the investigation moves on in the near future.
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Now congress is going to decide on silencers. Maybe they don't want to panic people so fast when a nut is shooting at them.
cevans1775
(2 posts)Congress is looking to lift the Title II tax stamp requirement for purchase of a suppressor. They don't silence the weapon. It is still quite loud. It simply reduces the decibel level so that anyone in the general vicinity of the firearm without hearing protection doesn't go deaf when it's fired. Hence why HR367 is called the "Hearing Protection Act of 2017". It's actually a safety device, not the magical total sound eliminator you've seen in James Bond films.
Standing in the middle, it's east to see how uneducated both sides of the party line are on various subjects...
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Kolesar
(31,182 posts)Then we found him.
Coventina
(27,215 posts)I'm not on FB, Twitter, or whatever the other things are.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,131 posts)(ya know, given how easy it is to get guns, that we have more guns than people, etc)
and then happens?
And dont pray after the event for god's sake , pray that tomorrow legislation is drafted to allow us to follow the constitution which limits access to well regulated militias.
Or dont pray at all given how silly it is to believe in an invisible man in the sky.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Now if there is such a thing as a gamblers newsgroup, he might have been there
Codeine
(25,586 posts)who simply do not interact with social media in any way. I myself enjoy discussion boards and forums, but I don't use Facebook or Twitter anymore, and I never used Instagram outside of a work application.